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Topic: Big crash again, are we going under 100? (Read 3561 times)

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June 09, 2013, 08:49:27 PM
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I guess everything is back to normal and the price will go up again.  It is $101 now.  Hopefully it goes back to $130 and above

That is far beyond wishful thinking especially when there is one or multiple manipulators moving the market down.  The fibonacci retracements after such dumps are only a ray of light which slowly diminish as the price continues its path lower.

The market is manipulated. But one just have to take that into account.

What seems to be happening, is that the whale is dumping a fair amount of coins, and then wait for a little panic to set in, and buy them back at even lower prices. The "surplus" coins are probably sold when the market bounce back a little. My guess is that this gives a surplus of at least 5% every time it's done. If the market was genuinely up, this pump and dump would not have worked, as the dumps would have been swallowed by the market.

It's really basic psychology. If prices are 120 and are pushed down to 100 for a short amount of time, enough buyers will see it as a fluke, and buy back in at up to say 115. Then next time it's 115 to 95 and back up again to 110 etc.
In a bull market it would have been the other way around.

Also note those large bid-walls that sometimes come up. They are either removed just before prices hit them. Sometimes they are eaten aswell, but that is most likely either two whales fighting for control, or someone who want to give the impression of a real rise/fall, and are willing to pay the commission both ways to make that impression. (BTW: a whale pays .25% trading fee instead of the .6% for small-fish like me.)
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I guess everything is back to normal and the price will go up again.  It is $101 now.  Hopefully it goes back to $130 and above

That is far beyond wishful thinking especially when there is one or multiple manipulators moving the market down.  The fibonacci retracements after such dumps are only a ray of light which slowly diminish as the price continues its path lower.
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I guess everything is back to normal and the price will go up again.  It is $101 now.  Hopefully it goes back to $130 and above

One never knows, but there has been a downwards trend for the past two weeks.
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I guess everything is back to normal and the price will go up again.  It is $101 now.  Hopefully it goes back to $130 and above
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Capitalism is the crisis.
Woke up saw $100.06 lol.
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Been trying to get rerified at gox for 2 weeks now  Roll Eyes wanting to send some Euros waiting to buy BTC when this happned...
ohh man i missed it...
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Resistance at $100 was weak, what we saw was downward momentum. Trends are easy to take advantage of if you read them correctly. We've been heavily overweight for the last few weeks with the bubble bursting on news that MtGox could not keep up with all of the hype the press generated. Look out for a reversal within the coming weeks and a slow climb back up.
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yeah it was just an unsustainable price with a small group of people mining a significant amount of coins. not enough new interest. i mean asicminer is pulling in how many btc a month?...if he was selling all, it would cripple the price...and there has got to be a few new less responsible companies with asics coming online right now...someones going to sell sell sell sell whoever does first (or just has) will make the $$


yeah I'm talking short term. chances are there will be an event like cyprus sometime within the next year which will show an overall increase in interest and price....but who knows.

who knows!!!

Yeah it was coming as those miners with asic have to cover expences too, if they dont find a way to distribute their bitcoin to a broader base then....
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There is a 10k wall at $101.18, hopefully this holds and we can see a rebound.

Where was the wall at ?
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The North Remembers
This is what the newbies are doing today.
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yeah it was just an unsustainable price with a small group of people mining a significant amount of coins. not enough new interest. i mean asicminer is pulling in how many btc a month?...if he was selling all, it would cripple the price...and there has got to be a few new less responsible companies with asics coming online right now...someones going to sell sell sell sell whoever does first (or just has) will make the $$


yeah I'm talking short term. chances are there will be an event like cyprus sometime within the next year which will show an overall increase in interest and price....but who knows.

who knows!!!
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Looks like the prices have reached a trough, seeing $94.9 right now Smiley

Yep thanks for riding the bitcoin rollercoaster
The next ride is scheduled in (obscure noises) look forward to it Smiley

More people should watch the Aronofsky film "pi."

Second that motion.
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92.78 ... growing pains.
pwi
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Looks like the prices have reached a trough, seeing $94.9 right now Smiley

Yep thanks for riding the bitcoin rollercoaster
The next ride is scheduled in (obscure noises) look forward to it Smiley

More people should watch the Aronofsky film "pi."

<----Badass, thumbs mf'ing up

More in line with the OP, my gut has been telling me (as I day trade a small amount on thin margins) to bail on my longer holdings. I hit my stop loss on my DTs, and was a few % away from my stop on long holdings. I chickened out and hope to buy in lower. Even though mathematically I know I made the quasi-right choice, I still feel like a chump and a traitor. While I think I'm right, secretly I hope I'm very wrong and I should've been buying. In the mean time I will hang up and listen. Just when you think you have it all figured out - Good luck guys and gals.
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Capitalism is the crisis.
The high on Bitstamp has grinded to a halt at around $110. The graph is screaming nope.
Also ¥ is freaking out at being OVER 9000.
That green line on top gives no less than 110 fucks.
Nopenopenopenope.
The chances of <$100 happening once the daytraders wake up is not high at all.
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Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Looks like the prices have reached a trough, seeing $94.9 right now Smiley

Yep thanks for riding the bitcoin rollercoaster
The next ride is scheduled in (obscure noises) look forward to it Smiley

More people should watch the Aronofsky film "pi."

If you find it then you found my obscure noise filter Smiley
Secret message what goes down can go up
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Capitalism is the crisis.
Looks like the prices have reached a trough, seeing $94.9 right now Smiley

Yep thanks for riding the bitcoin rollercoaster
The next ride is scheduled in (obscure noises) look forward to it Smiley

More people should watch the Aronofsky film "pi."
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1094
Learning the troll avoidance button :)
Looks like the prices have reached a trough, seeing $94.9 right now Smiley

Yep thanks for riding the bitcoin rollercoaster
The next ride is scheduled in (obscure noises) look forward to it Smiley
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
Looks like the prices have reached a trough, seeing $94.9 right now Smiley
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Capitalism is the crisis.
The high on Bitstamp has grinded to a halt at around $110. The graph is screaming nope.
Also ¥ is freaking out at being OVER 9000.
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