Bitcoin is in no way affiliated with the Euro. The Euro's problems affect only the Europeans. Bitcoin is not dependent on other currencies. I do think that the constant growth of bitcoin is because the dollar is falling in price. Due to the fact that Americans hands controls its economy we are not seeing inflation but it is progressing. The same thing and the Euro.
Sure bitcoin is not affiliated to Euro, but remember they are both currencies even though on a different level. Now that some users might take bitcoin to be a safe haven incase anything affects Euro, then it is possible that an upsurge might happen. Although, we are not sure yet the effect the recent issue will have on Euro, but if you look at the like of Venezuela, Zimbabwe, etc, you will know there is always a link somewhere. 
Topic: Big European disruption coming will help BTC reach $6000+ soon (Read 958 times)
October 07, 2017, 04:57:17 AM
Don't know if problems in Spain will cause the price to go up. But I do know that if I was living in Catalonia and having some savings I would convert some part of it to BTC. As a member of EU I still hope for the peaceful solution to their problem and of course unrelated BTC rise.
If you were in Catalonia, you would have Euros as your currency. There is no reason why your Euros should lose value. The Euros held by a German in Berlin are as valuable as the Euros held by a resident of Catalonia.
October 06, 2017, 09:24:42 AM
Don't know if problems in Spain will cause the price to go up. But I do know that if I was living in Catalonia and having some savings I would convert some part of it to BTC. As a member of EU I still hope for the peaceful solution to their problem and of course unrelated BTC rise.
October 06, 2017, 08:31:42 AM
Spain have problem with Catalonia which could be avoided if they just let the referendum be held in a quiet manner.There is 50-50 chances or more in favor those who do not want independence and problem will be solved.In this way they caused a crisis and possible declaration of independence in next Monday.If they do that only way Spain will react will be force,but much worst then on referendum.
This may cause problems with euro but I also think not too big to influence price of BTC.Price may go up very likely after hard fork if all goes well as it should.
In any case it remains to be seen how will Spain react if Catalonia declare independence and will EU stand by and observe it as the internal issue of an EU member.
This may cause problems with euro but I also think not too big to influence price of BTC.Price may go up very likely after hard fork if all goes well as it should.
In any case it remains to be seen how will Spain react if Catalonia declare independence and will EU stand by and observe it as the internal issue of an EU member.
October 06, 2017, 06:13:37 AM
Due illegal Catalan referendum by independentists trying to secede from Spain, this will cause a lot of disruption that will spread across Europe. The Euro is already falling while BTC had a nice bull run.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
sure .. and the US will be destroyed by NK's nukes and the dollar domination will come to end,keep holding
October 06, 2017, 05:47:36 AM
Due illegal Catalan referendum by independentists trying to secede from Spain, this will cause a lot of disruption that will spread across Europe. The Euro is already falling while BTC had a nice bull run.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
I don't see it coming, Catalan can't push Euro to fall significantly, People wouldn't buy bitcoin only because this problem.
The most significant case for people get into bitcoin maybe attracted to the price which is against inflation, usability across the world, Government regulations about cryptocurrency and economy crisis in a country such as in Venezuela or Zimbabwe that will encourage people to switch their wealth into bitcoin. Current price is $4400, seems rise a bit from yesterday, but still on slow phase to reach the ATH.
October 06, 2017, 05:47:31 AM
Bitcoin is in no way affiliated with the Euro. The Euro's problems affect only the Europeans. Bitcoin is not dependent on other currencies. I do think that the constant growth of bitcoin is because the dollar is falling in price. Due to the fact that Americans hands controls its economy we are not seeing inflation but it is progressing. The same thing and the Euro.
October 06, 2017, 05:21:12 AM
I feel like that whenever there is panic, people turn to bitcoin especially when the entire economic system is defunct. If the scenario does unfold in a bad way and Europe suffers from an economic crisis, i really don't doubt at all that bitcoin will be seen as a safe haven for people's funds and people buying into bitcoin like crazy.
That said, demand for bitcoin is and will be strong even without economic crises happening, as demonstrated atm. Price is climbing steadily, and will only accelerate as the month goes on.
That said, demand for bitcoin is and will be strong even without economic crises happening, as demonstrated atm. Price is climbing steadily, and will only accelerate as the month goes on.
Well you can see that the value of bitcoin is on a high level right now and I think people will still continue to stick to bitcoin because it is really natural for the price to still rise or increase there is no doubt about it, but if there would be economic crisis for sure that there would be some effect on the Cryptocurrencies, you wold see a down fall of some and bitcoin would significantly drop but that is an If? question and it is not really happening right now that is why many people are getting into bitcoin no doubt about it.
October 06, 2017, 05:17:45 AM
I feel like that whenever there is panic, people turn to bitcoin especially when the entire economic system is defunct. If the scenario does unfold in a bad way and Europe suffers from an economic crisis, i really don't doubt at all that bitcoin will be seen as a safe haven for people's funds and people buying into bitcoin like crazy.
That said, demand for bitcoin is and will be strong even without economic crises happening, as demonstrated atm. Price is climbing steadily, and will only accelerate as the month goes on.
That said, demand for bitcoin is and will be strong even without economic crises happening, as demonstrated atm. Price is climbing steadily, and will only accelerate as the month goes on.
Agree. Look at the situation in Venezuela. There is a great economic depression currently in their. Total breakdown of the law. The government exist but it can't sustain its citizens. So what the Venezuelan's do is to turn into bitcoin. I read that they used bitcoin just to get foods out side of Venezuela. So bitcoin become a safe heaven for most of them.
Maybe the Catalan secession will be another example of how bitcoin can help those who are in dire needs. I'm not familiar though of the European environment, but it doesn't matter because bitcoin has no borders. If Venezuelans was able to survived, then its possible for other as well if their country go into economic turmoil.
October 06, 2017, 04:33:11 AM
I feel like that whenever there is panic, people turn to bitcoin especially when the entire economic system is defunct. If the scenario does unfold in a bad way and Europe suffers from an economic crisis, i really don't doubt at all that bitcoin will be seen as a safe haven for people's funds and people buying into bitcoin like crazy.
That said, demand for bitcoin is and will be strong even without economic crises happening, as demonstrated atm. Price is climbing steadily, and will only accelerate as the month goes on.
That said, demand for bitcoin is and will be strong even without economic crises happening, as demonstrated atm. Price is climbing steadily, and will only accelerate as the month goes on.
October 06, 2017, 03:42:28 AM
Due illegal Catalan referendum by independentists trying to secede from Spain, this will cause a lot of disruption that will spread across Europe. The Euro is already falling while BTC had a nice bull run.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Are there any links OP (Regarding the news)? I do hope I can read some of these so that I can anticipate when to buy in. I've been hodling some but just in case ; I want to read more about it so that I can have a clear view of what will happen for the next few days or weeks regarding this Referendum and it's effect on pricing. Thanks for sharing this though got my hopes up!
I don't know if we can consider this a big disruption to the ecosystem. But for all intent and purposes, EU hasn't been that much friendly to bitcoin though. So I don't anticipate any disruption in any case whatsoever. Asia and North America are he dominant users and traders of bitcoin. Europe is still far behind because they know what bitcoin to take over as most of the country as pro bankers. So if ever this so called Catalan Referendum came into fruition or not. There will be no significant effect on the market.
October 06, 2017, 03:35:03 AM
For now, we cannot say if disruption will come.
Maybe the idea of independence will leave them after more severity/police violence from Madrid.
Maybe the idea of independence will leave them after more severity/police violence from Madrid.
October 06, 2017, 03:25:55 AM
Due illegal Catalan referendum by independentists trying to secede from Spain, this will cause a lot of disruption that will spread across Europe. The Euro is already falling while BTC had a nice bull run.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Are there any links OP (Regarding the news)? I do hope I can read some of these so that I can anticipate when to buy in. I've been hodling some but just in case ; I want to read more about it so that I can have a clear view of what will happen for the next few days or weeks regarding this Referendum and it's effect on pricing. Thanks for sharing this though got my hopes up!
October 05, 2017, 10:07:49 PM
i think there is some truth to this, since euro is falling, and there are a lot of issues going on in europe, countries like italy, germany and greece and seems to be falling financially and the most recent one, spain's dispute over catalon, and not to mention various terror attacks, the whole of europe might be thinking of something else to cling on, and what had happened in zimbabwe, might also happen to them. i think if they all felt that their euro is falling down, they might just print more and more paper notes, that will bring their fiat's value even lower, if they cannot come up of any good solution soon, they might resort to loaning from international banks,but that will just make everything worst, the best thing that they can do and a much wiser solution, is if they rely on crytocurrencies like bitcoin. in an even of pandemonium in their area, people would rather have something that is of value and at this time, bitcoin is considered valuable, and i think if that moment arrives,they will start using bitcoins, just salvage themselves, and it seems to be happening to zimbabwe right now, and it is not impossible that it will happen to europe as well, now that a lot is going on.
October 03, 2017, 10:32:13 PM
Due illegal Catalan referendum by independentists trying to secede from Spain, this will cause a lot of disruption that will spread across Europe. The Euro is already falling while BTC had a nice bull run.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
I think that $6000 is definitely possible by the end of the month even. $5k is probably going to be guaranteed by November, though. However, i'm not sure whether this country's independence from Spain is going to have any sort of real effects of price.
What drives bitcoin price up is likely to be institutional investors rushing into buying bitcoin.
But then, we've seen pretty high demand for bitcoin in countries where there is instability.
October 03, 2017, 10:26:21 PM
Due illegal Catalan referendum by independentists trying to secede from Spain, this will cause a lot of disruption that will spread across Europe. The Euro is already falling while BTC had a nice bull run.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
Once again, the global neutral asset shows to be the place to be. You can't lose in Bitcoin, just hold and you shall be rewarded.
$6000 is coming, don't lose your cheap coins.
HODLING since 2014 brother. We need to hold our coins until at least after the next halving. Plenty of room for the price to go up.
But yeah seriously, anyone holding for more than 2 years has profited a lot, including me. And well $6000 is not a big deal, it was gonna come sooner or later, the European disruption will be a Kickstarter for the uptrend.
October 03, 2017, 08:41:18 PM
The catalan referendum will not be affecting the bitcoin, It just a nationality problem, If they are wanna exit from the spanish and the catalan must start from zero about all of their new structure. Economic politic and society.
The last time there was a crisis in Europe was in 2013 when the EU forced Cyprus to bail-in the banks - and it pushed bitcoin into the mainstream.
no, it didn't. that's just apophenia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia
at the time, the bitcoin price had already been experiencing a monstrous rally for ~10 weeks. the 2011 bubble highs were surpassed before the cyprus event even happened.
people always search for fundamental news to explain price action. it's often pointless and illogical. the correct explanation is that demand for BTC in the lead-up to the cyprus bailout was already massively outweighing supply. a bubble/hype cycle was already occurring. and i'd hesitate even now to say that we have reached the mainstream. 2013 was the tip of the iceberg.
October 03, 2017, 07:39:09 PM
The catalan referendum will not be affecting the bitcoin, It just a nationality problem, If they are wanna exit from the spanish and the catalan must start from zero about all of their new structure. Economic politic and society.
The last time there was a crisis in Europe was in 2013 when the EU forced Cyprus to bail-in the banks - and it pushed bitcoin into the mainstream.
Catalonis is in the euro, and the Europeans may try financial shenanigans against them - and again bitcoin will benefit.
October 03, 2017, 05:50:26 PM
The catalan referendum will not be affecting the bitcoin, It just a nationality problem, If they are wanna exit from the spanish and the catalan must start from zero about all of their new structure. Economic politic and society.
October 03, 2017, 05:25:42 PM
Just to update: the president of Catalonia says they will declare independence unilaterally within a few days:
http://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-internacional-41492922
It's not clear what Spain can do - if they send in the troops they are in breach of Article 7 of the Lisbon Treaty (which forbids using the military against your own population).
http://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias-internacional-41492922
It's not clear what Spain can do - if they send in the troops they are in breach of Article 7 of the Lisbon Treaty (which forbids using the military against your own population).
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