Big Whales doing day trade with bitcoin?

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Quote from: apityeh71 on September 11, 2018, 04:51:56 AM

In my opinion the price of Bitcoin still normal, we can see historical the price since tradeable on 2011 the price was going up to 10 to 20 times just in short times and then going down to 70% to 90%. We can not avoid whales manipulate the price of Bitcoin because we will do the same thing if we become whales. Whales only want to make money from volatility of the price. We will se later the price of Bitcoin will breakout $20k because more new investor will interesting about crypto and the technology.

Well, the perspective you are seeing it is a very good perspective for someone who is more focused on the long term.
Unfortunately, for most part of the equation of the people in the space presently, they are just looking forward to quickly getting extremely rich overnight and they seem to discard the important things they should know before investing or trading.

Manipulators are there every time in every market, but I always see it as a pathetic excuse for traders who think that is the reason they keep losing, but in the real sense, their ignorance of trading dynamics is actually their problem.

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Quote from: galinskiydmitriy on July 29, 2018, 12:29:44 PM

It is not necessary to blame large crypto currency investors in all price movements. I believe that the price so moves completely by chance, because the opinions of most investors making predictions on technical analysis are the same.

People tend to want to blame everything on the whales and even their own trading mistakes. There is no market that is not one way or the other manipulated and even though this market seems like a lot manipulated due to its volatility, it is something that anyone should understand by now, that there is nothing anyone can do about it. There will certainly always be market controllers and there is certainly no doubt about that, and for what it is worth, the best is just to stick with the trend and know how to follow it.

Quote from: apityeh71 on September 11, 2018, 04:51:56 AM

We will se later the price of Bitcoin will breakout $20k because more new investor will interesting about crypto and the technology.

Yes, reaching out again $20k will be possible only with the help of whales and when bitcoin is getting new higher prices then new investors will start showing interests. This is how bitcoin price cycle worked and reached big levels hence in future too it will work on similar manner. Hence, whales are always important for this market.

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In my opinion the price of Bitcoin still normal, we can see historical the price since tradeable on 2011 the price was going up to 10 to 20 times just in short times and then going down to 70% to 90%. We can not avoid whales manipulate the price of Bitcoin because we will do the same thing if we become whales. Whales only want to make money from volatility of the price. We will se later the price of Bitcoin will breakout $20k because more new investor will interesting about crypto and the technology.

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It is not necessary to blame large crypto currency investors in all price movements. I believe that the price so moves completely by chance, because the opinions of most investors making predictions on technical analysis are the same.

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sure you've got. absolutely everyone at the net has masses of BTC. its smooth to be a hodler in a year long bull market. what would you inform someone that offered in december 2017? just HODL? fuck off you piece of shit. bitcoin is a ponzi scheme however i'm glad your 240 btc wont be really worth something quickly.

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For the big whales it is not that that is not aware of the day trading, the people I have met, they usually put some of their assets into the today trading business by usually giving it to someday traders as this is not a source of profit but rather of market awareness

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Yes, it happens, but not only with bitcoin.

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I think the rise and fall of bitcoin is a natural thing, bitcoin price will always move in the movement must be many trades done in because for the short term we can determine the price with the TA analysis if long term I think the fundamental analysis is more influential

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First let me clarify what big whales are, like its name big whales are those investors which invest a large sum of money into the cryptocurrency market and by large sum I mean millions these are people who have nothing to do with the world of day trading and depend on long term investment. And with that much money, they can move the market big and earn huge profits so they don't need day trading for small profits.

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Quote from: jademacoy on June 01, 2018, 10:59:36 AM

At first i was just thinking that it is normal because there are many investors and some of them had sold their bitcoin due to their needs or whatsoever reason they sell their bitcoin though the price for now is not that good for selling. Yet, It has been almost 2 weeks when i saw bitcoin market price moves up and down and i think there must be a big whale doing day trade. What can you say about the falling and rising of bitcoin market price lately?

You should not trade bitcoin at this point, you can see that after the bitcoin price fell to $ 6100, then at the current bitcoin jumped to $ 6500. I believe that at this time you should not buy bitcoin, the market is in a bear market in the long term so the bitcoin price will probably drop sharply at any time and you will lose very heavily if the trade in time This point.

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Quote from: jademacoy on June 01, 2018, 10:59:36 AM

At first i was just thinking that it is normal because there are many investors and some of them had sold their bitcoin due to their needs or whatsoever reason they sell their bitcoin though the price for now is not that good for selling. Yet, It has been almost 2 weeks when i saw bitcoin market price moves up and down and i think there must be a big whale doing day trade. What can you say about the falling and rising of bitcoin market price lately?

Big whales rarely day trade because they move the market and the market totally depends on their buying and selling which influences the most. They mostly take positional trades as they always trade for long-term and there are only few big whales who look for day trades. They just buy and hold their trades and they make every single move to shake out the unnecessary amateurs traders out of the trade and this is the reason every trader hit their stop losses when market create panic or spiky trade movements.

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Quote from: jademacoy on June 01, 2018, 10:59:36 AM

At first i was just thinking that it is normal because there are many investors and some of them had sold their bitcoin due to their needs or whatsoever reason they sell their bitcoin though the price for now is not that good for selling. Yet, It has been almost 2 weeks when i saw bitcoin market price moves up and down and i think there must be a big whale doing day trade. What can you say about the falling and rising of bitcoin market price lately?

No way! This thing is far bigger than the day trading. We are literally moving up and down by couple of thousand dollars in very short period of time and do you think it is the day trading stuff thats going on? Its not, and it cant happen because chances are very less that al the whales will come together and will try to manipulate the market for their own benefits. Furthermore, whales are literally the silent earner here who keep holding their assets no matter what. All the ups and downs in the market occurs with a news and weak handed people selling their crypto's. Thats all!

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Quote from: jamesmitchel018 on June 06, 2018, 11:12:35 PM

The big whales control the prices of Bitcoin. Falling and rising those are not new in this market. As well as we all know in this kind of business the more money you put in it the more profit you will get.

yes, they did it. this is very bad for small investors.
they will quickly lose their money. this is another dangerous part of crypto trading. Angry

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Based on this topic we know the knowledge of stock market where price ups and downs happen but in case of crypto market is also same because many investors are withdraw their money with their personal reasons but some big whales are related with that’s why the price is fluctuating so we can we should invest so that this price will increase.

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Quote from: jademacoy on June 01, 2018, 10:59:36 AM

At first i was just thinking that it is normal because there are many investors and some of them had sold their bitcoin due to their needs or whatsoever reason they sell their bitcoin though the price for now is not that good for selling. Yet, It has been almost 2 weeks when i saw bitcoin market price moves up and down and i think there must be a big whale doing day trade. What can you say about the falling and rising of bitcoin market price lately?

Yes, that is the business strategy of the shark's money. They use the money to manipulate and profit from it. This happens frequently in the Crypto market and price stability is never there.
So we should be familiar with this and resist the manipulation by believing Crypto's future. Only buy and hold them until the market price increases.

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it seems not just bitcoin just because I see such whales usually have very large and very large capital so I am sure they will share some trading capital that he has for daily trading to buy bitcoin and altcoin they surely make use of all the potentially good coin.

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Quote from: jamesmitchel018 on June 06, 2018, 11:12:35 PM

The big whales control the prices of Bitcoin. Falling and rising those are not new in this market. As well as we all know in this kind of business the more money you put in it the more profit you will get.

absolutely, 'cause whales is known (big players) in the market., which is had a big contribution on the growth rate ,that can cause bitcoin as well to collapse or rocketed anytime depends on whales decision. And it's always happened specially when the growth rate touch down the highest value. So if you want to become profitable on this circumstances, you should play like what whales doing. such gaining quick profits , which is always exit after you earn enough profits ..

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The big whales control the prices of Bitcoin. Falling and rising those are not new in this market. As well as we all know in this kind of business the more money you put in it the more profit you will get.

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Quote from: jademacoy on June 01, 2018, 10:59:36 AM

At first i was just thinking that it is normal because there are many investors and some of them had sold their bitcoin due to their needs or whatsoever reason they sell their bitcoin though the price for now is not that good for selling. Yet, It has been almost 2 weeks when i saw bitcoin market price moves up and down and i think there must be a big whale doing day trade. What can you say about the falling and rising of bitcoin market price lately?

There might be market manipulation because it is a free market and anyone can do anything here and they will take advantage of this unregulated market, recently there is an investigation going on about the bitcoin market manipulation by the US authorities and if that happens we will see less situations like this in the future, i am still not sure how they are able to collect the trade details from exchanges around the globe and whether they are liable to give those data outside their jurisdiction.

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Quote from: jademacoy on June 01, 2018, 10:59:36 AM

At first i was just thinking that it is normal because there are many investors and some of them had sold their bitcoin due to their needs or whatsoever reason they sell their bitcoin though the price for now is not that good for selling. Yet, It has been almost 2 weeks when i saw bitcoin market price moves up and down and i think there must be a big whale doing day trade. What can you say about the falling and rising of bitcoin market price lately?

Big whales have been controlling the flow of the market for a while now and manipulating the market however they want, but lately i don't think that they are doing as much as they did before, mainly i think they have shifted their interest to other coins which can be manipulated easier like ICO tokens and altcoins, and i think they are laying low at the moment especially after the US investigating price manipulation.

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