Well, someone who has issues as you have said shouldn’t be drunk driving. It’s not like they’re the only ones who has issues in this world, a lot of people also has issues so you shouldn’t come out there driving like a mad person and cutting another person’s life short all because of your stupidity.
So, the law is a good one and even worse should be done to them. If anyone wants to get drunk, then they should make sure that they are not stupidly driving, rather have someone drive you home or you can order an Uber. Not just hop in your car and start driving like a mad person on the road. This is an issue that really needs to be solved.
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April 26, 2022, 10:19:20 AM
April 26, 2022, 08:30:04 AM
This is an interesting and sensible bill because nowadays, cases on reckless driving resulting to homicide is increasing due to drivers that lacks discipline and moderation in drinking. If this bill will become a law, it could impact a lot of lives most especially the lives of the young people who lost their parents in an accident. Justice will be served fairly.
Those children who lost their parents at a young age suffer trauma and are required to grow up and matured fast due to the situation that there's none to make a living for them. Instead of having to do the things they love, they will be forced to enter adulthood and work their ass off just to survive and get by on a daily basis, most especially if they have no relatives to lean on. With this bill, the justice will not just end on suspects being put into jail, but to also provide for the bereaved children for their future.
Hopefully, this will be adapted in most places so that there would be more responsible driver because of the grave punishment and responsibilities that will fall upon them once they commit it. After all, it is our duty to drink moderately and drive safely, not just for the sake of ourselves, but also for the sake of those people that we are meeting and driving with along the road.
Those children who lost their parents at a young age suffer trauma and are required to grow up and matured fast due to the situation that there's none to make a living for them. Instead of having to do the things they love, they will be forced to enter adulthood and work their ass off just to survive and get by on a daily basis, most especially if they have no relatives to lean on. With this bill, the justice will not just end on suspects being put into jail, but to also provide for the bereaved children for their future.
Hopefully, this will be adapted in most places so that there would be more responsible driver because of the grave punishment and responsibilities that will fall upon them once they commit it. After all, it is our duty to drink moderately and drive safely, not just for the sake of ourselves, but also for the sake of those people that we are meeting and driving with along the road.
April 26, 2022, 12:26:56 AM
My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
Oh, you'd be surprised if you think that. There are plenty of older alcoholics, problem drinkers, and just plain old social drinkers who get behind the wheel after too many drinks who are well past their student loan days. And aside from that, the law doesn't (and shouldn't IMO) take into account whether a defendant is going to be able to afford to pay a fine when that law is written. There's a $219 fine for littering in some New England states, and well...see?I guess they would end up in an orphanage?
That's one possibility, but I think most orphaned kids wind up in the custody of a family member--though I don't know what the statistics are as far as that's concerned. I'm also not sure how many orphanages there are anymore.We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers.
Tell me about it. Especially when a crime is committed against people in power, like cops. If it had been a black or Hispanic mother on welfare (or even not on welfare) who was killed, what do you think the chances are that this bill would have even been considered? The people who've got power over the law tend to protect their own kind first and foremost. Also, there are so many laws on the books already, and it's not as if drunk driving isn't a punishable offense. And why not extend the punishment in question here to any situation of accidental killing? What if the offender isn't able to pay? What happens to the kids? This is indeed reactionary in nature.
April 25, 2022, 07:21:56 PM
Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money.
It is already happening that in most cases, the driver usually pays the victim. But this bill as posted by the OP is very nice. We will see if these drunken drivers will lessen in numbers. And this is just fair to the kids that will be left behind by untimely accident owed to irresponsible drivers. I hope this kind of bill can be seen in other countries as well.
or people whom they have killed due on being drunk or being irresponsible and with this then we might be seeing much less drunk drivers in the future since they've been thinking
on the possible responsibility that they would be burden after.
We know that this is hard thats why its right that they should really be careful and be responsible most of the time.
April 25, 2022, 06:54:35 PM
Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money.
It is already happening that in most cases, the driver usually pays the victim. But this bill as posted by the OP is very nice. We will see if these drunken drivers will lessen in numbers. And this is just fair to the kids that will be left behind by untimely accident owed to irresponsible drivers. I hope this kind of bill can be seen in other countries as well.
April 25, 2022, 06:47:16 PM
The bill should be applied to all countries and will have a deterrent effect on all drivers so that all drivers do not drive their cars when drunk, as it is dangerous for the driver and others.
There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility.
In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family.
There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility.
In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family.
Yeah that's best if all country apply this law since it will give security to the victims children if something bad happen to their provider due to this unfortunate incident made by drunkards. But a law on certain country may not apply on other since some politician have different outlook unto this situation and might we see them denied since maybe they will get affected to the law since their part of family do this.
April 25, 2022, 05:35:10 PM
Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money.
April 25, 2022, 05:14:29 PM
The bill should be applied to all countries and will have a deterrent effect on all drivers so that all drivers do not drive their cars when drunk, as it is dangerous for the driver and others.
There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility.
In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family.
There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility.
In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family.
April 25, 2022, 03:40:04 PM
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The bill is named after the daughters of a police officer killed in a DUI hit-and-run
The Tennessee legislature passed a bill Wednesday that would require drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parent and are convicted of vehicular homicide due to intoxication.
The legislation passed through the Tennessee Senate on Wednesday following an amendment to rename the bill after the two daughters of state police officer Nicholas Galinger, who was killed in a hit-and-run by a drunk driver in 2019, according to CBS 46.
The legislation, which has yet to be signed into law, requires DUI drivers convicted of either vehicular homicide or aggravated vehicular homicide due to intoxication to pay child support if a parent killed in a crash has any minor children. The payments would continue until each child reaches 18 years old and graduates from high school.
Galinger's killer, Janet Hind, drove into him from behind while he was investigating a manhole cover overflowing with water. Hind was intoxicated at the time and was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February.
They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit.
We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like?
The Tennessee legislature passed a bill Wednesday that would require drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parent and are convicted of vehicular homicide due to intoxication.
The legislation passed through the Tennessee Senate on Wednesday following an amendment to rename the bill after the two daughters of state police officer Nicholas Galinger, who was killed in a hit-and-run by a drunk driver in 2019, according to CBS 46.
The legislation, which has yet to be signed into law, requires DUI drivers convicted of either vehicular homicide or aggravated vehicular homicide due to intoxication to pay child support if a parent killed in a crash has any minor children. The payments would continue until each child reaches 18 years old and graduates from high school.
Galinger's killer, Janet Hind, drove into him from behind while he was investigating a manhole cover overflowing with water. Hind was intoxicated at the time and was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February.
They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit.
We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like?
It makes sense because there are very few situations, infact it's almost impossible, to be in the situation of drunk driving and have any excuse for the damage you inflict if you hit something. Losing a parent at an early age is a painful enough experience but it has long term ramifications too as the decreased income is likely to have life altering effects on the remaining child(ren). However it's a bit of a catch-22 situation because if the judge is doing their job properly then it's possible that the person will be in jail for a large part of the time they are a child and will not be able to make any sort of meaningful payments. Maybe it should be "banked" and the driver would have to pay the equivalent amount of years after they get out.
April 25, 2022, 02:18:12 PM
Why it's only limited to drunk driving? Why not expand it to every case of killing that leads to a child becoming an orphan?
They idea sounds right morally, but what would be practical consequences? For example, there's an infamous effect of a Chinese law that causes drivers to intentionally kill victims, because it's cheaper than paying medical bills. What if this law would encourage hit and runs or killing witnesses?
They idea sounds right morally, but what would be practical consequences? For example, there's an infamous effect of a Chinese law that causes drivers to intentionally kill victims, because it's cheaper than paying medical bills. What if this law would encourage hit and runs or killing witnesses?
April 24, 2022, 07:21:49 PM
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The bill is named after the daughters of a police officer killed in a DUI hit-and-run
The Tennessee legislature passed a bill Wednesday that would require drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parent and are convicted of vehicular homicide due to intoxication.
The legislation passed through the Tennessee Senate on Wednesday following an amendment to rename the bill after the two daughters of state police officer Nicholas Galinger, who was killed in a hit-and-run by a drunk driver in 2019, according to CBS 46.
The legislation, which has yet to be signed into law, requires DUI drivers convicted of either vehicular homicide or aggravated vehicular homicide due to intoxication to pay child support if a parent killed in a crash has any minor children. The payments would continue until each child reaches 18 years old and graduates from high school.
Galinger's killer, Janet Hind, drove into him from behind while he was investigating a manhole cover overflowing with water. Hind was intoxicated at the time and was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-drunk-driver-child-support-parent-death
The Tennessee legislature passed a bill Wednesday that would require drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parent and are convicted of vehicular homicide due to intoxication.
The legislation passed through the Tennessee Senate on Wednesday following an amendment to rename the bill after the two daughters of state police officer Nicholas Galinger, who was killed in a hit-and-run by a drunk driver in 2019, according to CBS 46.
The legislation, which has yet to be signed into law, requires DUI drivers convicted of either vehicular homicide or aggravated vehicular homicide due to intoxication to pay child support if a parent killed in a crash has any minor children. The payments would continue until each child reaches 18 years old and graduates from high school.
Galinger's killer, Janet Hind, drove into him from behind while he was investigating a manhole cover overflowing with water. Hind was intoxicated at the time and was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-drunk-driver-child-support-parent-death
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They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit.
We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like?
April 24, 2022, 06:37:44 PM
This should be widely applied so that drinkers are aware of the consequences they will have to bear if an incident occurs. We can't stop companies from shutting down beer, but we can put in place tough laws to prevent overuse and injury to others. In my country, the government has just increased the penalty for drinking while driving. Accordingly, just drinking 2 cans of beer with an alcohol content, the driver will be fined 60 days and have to pay a fine according to regulations, the fine I see has increased 3 times compared to the old fine.
I think this bill should be approve because this will bring justice to all the victims caused by irresponsible drivers. We always heard this DON'T DRINK WHEN YOU DRIVE, DON'T DRIVE WHEN YOU'RE DRUNK but this was always disregard by all drivers since there was no heavy sanctions made for them. Maybe this time, they will be more disciplined and be more responsible drivers as they can easily took the lives of others without their awareness. April 24, 2022, 05:54:44 PM
Due to the availability of the car in our time, a huge number of inadequate and headless drivers. Such laws can affect the understanding of a person who thinks to drive drunk. As the saying goes, laws are made with blood. Driving drunk is the most irresponsible act.
This why the government should have more exams on getting a license, because the arrogant one can easily have it especially in my country. A lot of incidents like this that kills innocent people, having this kind of law is fine but not enough to punish those drunk drivers. Note that not all drunk drivers are rich and capable of supporting others life, they might end up in a jail but the victim will not receive anything from him so better to have another law with regards to this. April 24, 2022, 05:48:13 PM
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They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit.
We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like?
They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income.
It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit.
We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like?
Can I have clarifying questions, or your explanations?
1. I do not quite understand - is this a replacement for a prison term? To begin with, what we are talking about, in my opinion, is nothing more than a premeditated murder! Getting behind the wheel of a car while intoxicated is essentially making the decision to kill a random person or even a group of people with a vehicle. Otherwise, if the perpetrator goes to jail, how will the payment be secured? Or will he be given a job in prison to be guaranteed to earn the required amount?
2. If the perpetrator is released from prison - this is complete nonsense. Most of these criminals are rather poor citizens, how will they support children left without parents? For $100 a month?
Some kind of nonsense, as for me ... I will admit that if it is not possible to pay, for example, $ 5,000 per month for one child (well, not $ 100, right ?!), and the lack of liquid assets providing such an amount (through a forced sale), it is more logical to force remove the required organs from the perpetrator of the murder, leaving him with the minimum set to ensure vital functions. And the proceeds, significant funds - to put on the providing account for the injured child / children. Or is it humane to kill people drunk, but to forcibly remove organs from a criminal killer is inhumane if he cannot try to “correct” his guilt as little as possible!?
April 23, 2022, 03:42:50 PM
Due to the availability of the car in our time, a huge number of inadequate and headless drivers. Such laws can affect the understanding of a person who thinks to drive drunk. As the saying goes, laws are made with blood. Driving drunk is the most irresponsible act.
If you're drunk, you should never handle a car stirring but intoxicants will never listen. Let's even say the driver is not drunk, anyone who killed any parent must compensate the deceased family. Accidents happen and sometimes we can't avoid it but what will come out of a drunkard with debts? how will they support a child when they have their own problems? This bill may be hard to implement. I have also learnt that responsible alcohol drunker don't drink to a stupor to the point that they lose their sense.
The idea of new projects exploring this trend wouldn't last.
April 23, 2022, 02:39:37 PM
Sounds about right. The money should be way larger than what the family is losing from the breadwinner dying though. Thing is, how is the family going to get paid if the convicted just decided to go to jail. It's like sending the dad to jail for missing child support.
I like OP's idea of the breathananlyzer in the car. I believe there are already cars that require biometrics to turn on (usually the fingerprint) so this shouldn't be something farfetched. Car detects you are too intoxicated, it locks down and calls a driving service for you. Though I suppose self-driving cars would make all these unnecessary.
I like OP's idea of the breathananlyzer in the car. I believe there are already cars that require biometrics to turn on (usually the fingerprint) so this shouldn't be something farfetched. Car detects you are too intoxicated, it locks down and calls a driving service for you. Though I suppose self-driving cars would make all these unnecessary.
April 23, 2022, 02:20:03 PM
Due to the availability of the car in our time, a huge number of inadequate and headless drivers. Such laws can affect the understanding of a person who thinks to drive drunk. As the saying goes, laws are made with blood. Driving drunk is the most irresponsible act.
April 23, 2022, 01:27:21 PM
This is actually good. Might not be still enough deterrent for the idiots and assholes out there but it does help make up a little for the damage they've done. Is the payment per parent? Like if both parents died do the child get double the amount? I don't know the laws there but I believe in cases like this you can already sue for "damages" anyway
I think a little more penalty is really needed these days coz it's seems we are going backwards when it comes to punishing crimes. Either they get a slap on the wrist (for example some places they practically legalized shoplifting) or it's citizens that are made to suffer (a criminal can sue - and win - if he injured himself robbing your house).
We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society?
I think a little more penalty is really needed these days coz it's seems we are going backwards when it comes to punishing crimes. Either they get a slap on the wrist (for example some places they practically legalized shoplifting) or it's citizens that are made to suffer (a criminal can sue - and win - if he injured himself robbing your house).
April 23, 2022, 11:43:49 AM
If you're victim to a drunk driving accident and live, you're entitled to file a civil suit against the person which will result in financial liability. If you die, your family has that right, and in DUI manslaughter cases, or any case for that matter, I believe the U.S. allows for an automatic settlement/victory for the litigants in a civil suit if the same defendant is convicted for the same crime in a criminal court. The law seems a bit redundant because I imagine in civil cases that wages would be garnished if the settlement can't be paid at once.
Thanks for the information, when taken in that context the law may seem to be redundant, the only way in which I could see this not being the case is if the drunk driver will now need to pay both of those penalties or if the adjudication of the child support is automatic and the family does not need to go thought trial to get it.Anyway it is an interesting proposal and at least to me it is better than to send someone to prison, let them work and try to repay those most affected by this with their efforts as a way to atone for their irreparable mistake.
April 23, 2022, 11:31:53 AM
I think that driving trucks is the most useful area for automated driving if pre-determined tracks for these trailers are set, so that the driver’s role becomes complementary, and this role may be abolished in the future.
The bill is interesting, but it remains difficult for this person to pay the expenses, especially since most truck drivers do not have the extra money to bear the expenses of a child or several children.
I had hoped that these expenses would be directed to the companies that employ these drivers and thus would improve the selection criteria instead of bearing the consequences of the expenses of these minor children.
The bill is interesting, but it remains difficult for this person to pay the expenses, especially since most truck drivers do not have the extra money to bear the expenses of a child or several children.
I had hoped that these expenses would be directed to the companies that employ these drivers and thus would improve the selection criteria instead of bearing the consequences of the expenses of these minor children.
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