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Coinbase worths about 17 billion dollars as a company, and that is today with all the bear market and the bad economy in the world, they were about five times bigger than this at their peak, which was about 100 billion dollars market cap give or take. Why am I talking about Coinbase? Well that's a company that is mainly USA based and has around %20 of what Binance does in volume, they are even second and yet still barely at %20, not even that, more like %15 volume. So if we are talking about peaks, if 100 billion was the peak of Coinbase, then Binance must be around 300-400 billion range easily at the top, and even right now it should be somewhere over 100 billion easily, could be near 200 billion to be fair. Why does that matter in this situation? Well simply because no legal trouble could make them go away, no company that worths 100-200 billion, with a potential to double that even triple that easily could ever have legal troubles. They would hire not just the best lawyers but you can bet that they can hire the best judges as well, bribery is nothing for a company like that.
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I think legal challenges often serve as a litmus test for any organization, and Binance is currently under the magnifying glass. The SEC has come down hard on Binance, bringing forth 13 charges related to securities violations. These charges revolve around allegations of wash trading and the illegal sale of BNB and BUSD tokens as unregistered securities.

You should have provided a source into your information because I'm not sure if this is a new charges or you're discussing another one from the already existing case they had in court with Binance. I don't support a Binance a bit but I think SEC are turning into a donut that want to see the end of something if they don't like it, when they want to carry out investigations, they take it personal and that makes me think what happen inside between CZ and SEC sometimes.

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Even before the SEC lawsuit, two key figures at Binance, CZ  and former Chief Compliance Officer Samuel Lin, were charged by the CFTC for their questionable actions. The CFTC has not only issued charges but seeks to impose a payment trading and registration ban on the exchange, which would effectively mean Binance could no longer do business in the U.S. These legal battles are no trifles, and the implications are profound.

Didn't Binance announced that they want to stop registration from UK customers yesterday? I believe it was due to regulators request. If Binance stop operation in US, they will still be doing fine. Not like Binance dot US is a global one, they have separate exchange and I believe they don't get quarter of what they get in the Binance global because Coinbase own US, they should move on if SEC insist except if there are personal issues the media is not reporting.

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The situation at Binance reminds us of a familiar tale: FTX. Is Binance headed down the same path? One thing that can't be ignored is the timing of key personnel departures from Binance. What's even more intriguing is the timing of key personnel departures from Binance. Several high-profile executives, including  its Chief Strategy Officer, President of Compliance, and General Counsel left Binance in what appeared to be a coordinated move. While the official statement cites personal reasons for their departures, rumors suggest that these executives were not satisfied with CZ's handling of the DOJ  investigation. The timing is indeed peculiar and bears a striking resemblance to the situation that unfolded before FTX's collapse when Sam Trabucco left Almeda Research.

In the crypto world, things move fast. I think Binance is facing its biggest threat and I for one am terrified of what's to come, but they can never go down like ftx. Can Binance regain trust?

Having a independent financial system is threat to US, even if Binance were to do everything request from SEC, they will still hunt them because CZ and Binance is not control by the US government, that they don't like. If the US want something from you and they don't have it, be ready for their frustrating part especially when you want need them to flourish.
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Binance losing or regaining trust is not dependent on the SEC's attacks. They've been consistently giving their userbase convenient ways to trade and I bet they will still prefer to use this exchange even if SEC wins.

It's definitely not a small problem for Binance, but I doubt that Binance will fall into Crysis, even if they actually got banned in the U.S. Eventho currently U.S is on the top 5 country of Binance traffic, but it only took as much as 3,95% of the total Binance traffic, it's not small amount, but not too big to bring binance down into crysis.



I am not a regular Binance user, because I don't like overwhelming UI, but I doubt their non-US regular customer will move on from Binance even after they got banned in the US. And I suppose Binance will still run without U.S users.
Not having US customers will have a bigger impact more than you imagine since Binance also exited Russia due to similar legal concerns as reported https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/09/27/binance-to-sell-entire-russia-business-to-commex/ The sale seems shady but that's another topic for discussion.

Well, if Binance lost both it's US and Russia users, then it's another story. With this recent news, I suppose Binance is already prepared for leaving Russia, then they should fight harder to keep their permit to operate in the US. If they lose both Russia and US at the same time, I doubt they will survive another couple of years, even if they can get to other new countries.
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Binance has been through a lot, but as you can see in its several years of existence, there are still many people who trust the Binance platform. Everything that Binance is going through, they are overcoming little by little.

How many times has it had issues with hacking? How many times have they solved it somehow? They still maintain the trust of the community in this industry even though that happened. That's because they have established trust in the cryptocurrency community.
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It's undeniable that Binance is currently facing some significant legal challenges that have raised concerns within the crypto community. It is a major player in the crypto space, and its fate will undoubtedly have an impact on the industry as a whole. It will need to address these allegations and cooperate with relevant authorities to ensure they are in compliance with the law. I think Binance is still profitable, this gives more resources to fight the legal battles and weather the storm.

As a Binance user, it's reasonable to be concerned about these developments. For me, rebuilding trust takes time but it's not impossible and will require a lot of work, it can recover from such situations but it requires commitment to compliance, transparency, and making amends where necessary.
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Binance will still be the biggest exchange in decades, they may be caught in turbelence but they will survive. The argument that XRP did to win against the regulator will also apply to Binance token.

The company have been battling SEC, for a long time and Binance is much richer than Ripple Labs. They've been in the business for a long time and collected more wealth than Ripple team.
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They have faced regulatory problems in various countries since years ago, and yet they still doing business as usual, and since they aren't a US-based business, I doubt the US govt will shut down Binance. Probably they will close their shop before being taken down by the government since unregulated businesses are prone to embezzlement and stuff. My prediction is that they will not exist 10 years in the future, either being shut down or because they steal people's money. It's difficult to predict when they will collapse really, just store your money in your wallet.
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Binance losing or regaining trust is not dependent on the SEC's attacks. They've been consistently giving their userbase convenient ways to trade and I bet they will still prefer to use this exchange even if SEC wins.

It's definitely not a small problem for Binance, but I doubt that Binance will fall into Crysis, even if they actually got banned in the U.S. Eventho currently U.S is on the top 5 country of Binance traffic, but it only took as much as 3,95% of the total Binance traffic, it's not small amount, but not too big to bring binance down into crysis.



I am not a regular Binance user, because I don't like overwhelming UI, but I doubt their non-US regular customer will move on from Binance even after they got banned in the US. And I suppose Binance will still run without U.S users.
Not having US customers will have a bigger impact more than you imagine since Binance also exited Russia due to similar legal concerns as reported https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/09/27/binance-to-sell-entire-russia-business-to-commex/ The sale seems shady but that's another topic for discussion.
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While concerning, I don't think Binance is on a hot bed right now, especially when you consider the fact that BNB isn't even a security. SEC is pretty much throwing whatever they can to undermine the cryptocurrency scene in the US in favor of their CBDC, which is arguably inferior and less enticing than the superior cryptocurrency system that we have built for over a decade. Binance is going to weather the storm and gain traction once again the US. and if it couldn't, it's not going to be much of a problem, especially now that the US economy is on the shitbox so they can't really provide as much financial upturn for Binance. China is the name of the game now, as well as other neighboring countries, should we see changes in the outlook of China towards crypto, we can pretty much disregard this whole SEC conundrum altogether.
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The situation at Binance reminds us of a familiar tale: FTX. Is Binance headed down the same path? 

To be fair, SEC is targeting every established US exchanges though one could say binance is getting a lot of points in particular. I wouldn't say this reminds me of FTX though, which collapsed because of fund management/accounting issues and eventually turned insolvent. In addition, this is only their US arm.

However as a precaution, you should always consider the possibility that your go-to CEX could crumble at some point hence tread your actions carefully. Most common advice is to not use exchanges as a means of storage.
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In the crypto world, things move fast. I think Binance is facing its biggest threat and I for one am terrified of what's to come, but they can never go down like ftx. Can Binance regain trust?

Even though Binance and FTX are both centralized exchanges, I don't see what they have to compare, what's happening with Binance is completely different from FTX. FTX is a thief, they planned to appropriate investors' assets and SBF is facing a criminal lawsuit that has entered its 8th day and it is difficult to escape the crime. While binance is facing a series of meaningless troubles from the SEC and European legislature.  Simply because Binance is growing too fast and needs to be restrained before letting them expand further. Binance's market share is dropping significantly but saying it will collapse like FTX is nonsense.
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In the crypto world, things move fast. I think Binance is facing its biggest threat and I for one am terrified of what's to come, but they can never go down like ftx. Can Binance regain trust?
Did they have crisis or not?
Have they resolved their crisis or not?
Will they reclaim their trust or not?

It's not your problem, it's theirs. Your task is DO NOT store your coins on Binance or centralized exchanges.

Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts.
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It's definitely not a small problem for Binance, but I doubt that Binance will fall into Crysis, even if they actually got banned in the U.S. Eventho currently U.S is on the top 5 country of Binance traffic, but it only took as much as 3,95% of the total Binance traffic, it's not small amount, but not too big to bring binance down into crysis.



I am not a regular Binance user, because I don't like overwhelming UI, but I doubt their non-US regular customer will move on from Binance even after they got banned in the US. And I suppose Binance will still run without U.S users.
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If you provided the source link, we could have read more about this, but I knew that the USA SEC has been dragging Binance for violating some security laws for a long time now, and this is also affecting the crypto market movement because if Binance falls today just as FTX did, the market will be bitterly affected and many people will lose so much money to crypto.
Decentralization is the only solution to all these allegations and threats because, in a decentralized system, no one will threaten to leave the exchange because they know that they hold a big share of it.
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These charges revolve around allegations of wash trading and the illegal sale of BNB and BUSD tokens as unregistered securities.

Okay this part totally tells you that the SEC is bullshitting pretty hard eh. iirc BNB wasnt even securities at all and why do people always seems to take SEC seriously at all. Its part of their job to go hunt on every crypto exchanges to make sure they follow their rules from A to Z and as for binance, they are the biggest crypto exchange as of now so they are the main target for SEC to chew on therefore there will be tons of allegation in the future as well

In the crypto world, things move fast. I think Binance is facing its biggest threat and I for one am terrified of what's to come, but they can never go down like ftx. Can Binance regain trust?

Not a threat at all, perhaps binance should even leave US and close all their US customer account to stop themselves from having to deal with all those bullshit from SEC
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I think legal challenges often serve as a litmus test for any organization, and Binance is currently under the magnifying glass. The SEC has come down hard on Binance, bringing forth 13 charges related to securities violations. These charges revolve around allegations of wash trading and the illegal sale of BNB and BUSD tokens as unregistered securities.

Even before the SEC lawsuit, two key figures at Binance, CZ  and former Chief Compliance Officer Samuel Lin, were charged by the CFTC for their questionable actions. The CFTC has not only issued charges but seeks to impose a payment trading and registration ban on the exchange, which would effectively mean Binance could no longer do business in the U.S. These legal battles are no trifles, and the implications are profound.

The situation at Binance reminds us of a familiar tale: FTX. Is Binance headed down the same path? One thing that can't be ignored is the timing of key personnel departures from Binance. What's even more intriguing is the timing of key personnel departures from Binance. Several high-profile executives, including  its Chief Strategy Officer, President of Compliance, and General Counsel left Binance in what appeared to be a coordinated move. While the official statement cites personal reasons for their departures, rumors suggest that these executives were not satisfied with CZ's handling of the DOJ  investigation. The timing is indeed peculiar and bears a striking resemblance to the situation that unfolded before FTX's collapse when Sam Trabucco left Almeda Research.

In the crypto world, things move fast. I think Binance is facing its biggest threat and I for one am terrified of what's to come, but they can never go down like ftx. Can Binance regain trust?
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