Topic: [BitAffNet] How we're the #1 Bitcoin Mining Pool In The World (or so we thought) - page 16. (Read 99155 times)

LoL Ya Black Arrow I trust that bunch   and if it was true then they can and should be going thru proper channels to recover their merchandise. I still say that's BS until someone proves it, as that tracking number means nothing!

Yes more or better information from the pool would be helpful. It the pool dynamics/ structure have changed then this threads first post needs to reflect that change.

Maybe this is the cause of the fluctuation:


S0br promised to post an announcement here many weeks ago:


....but still nothing.......why

All good points and I think there is a lot of miners that feel the same as you do.

You are not telling me anything that I don't already know about s0br and it seems you have missed my points. Also your pointing out why I hate IRC chat as the only way to get pool information. If the pools payout system has changed then this should be posted so existing and new miners know this.

The hash rate should have nothing to do with how late the coins are paid out, and as Kano pointed out as pool hash rate goes up so should the expected blocks, unless it's a flawed system and the shortage just continues to get larger as the hash rate goes up. If that's the case then payments will get later and later. Also what is going to happen when next year the blocks half and there are 200+ coins in queued? If the pool never recovers and gets currant then someone will be left holding the bag which is fine as long as the pool lets miners know this and if people still want to mine there so be it. Hell I still have half my miners there at this time.

On another personal observation, the large pool hash rate swings have always worried me as I often wondered if it was s0br renting miners or someone hitting the pool and withholding blocks somehow? I just have not seen on other pools the hash rate fluctuate like it does here and have worried about it for sometime now.  

Expected block find rate is directly related to the pool hash rate.
As the speed goes up and down so does the expected block finding.

Everyone on the IRC is very helpful and s0br has explained it many times there. s0br is someone you can directly talk to and it's great.


Whereas other pools have the btc to float through rough patches, there are two things that make it hard on bitaffnet to stay current. First the pool gets up to 6PH at times. Growing too fast means there's more payouts than blocks. Second, there has been security issues, that now should be dealt with, but that lead to losing all the float money though theft. So, futures blocks pay for past work, it's just what's happening to get the highest payouts possible. No idea if it can ever recover, but it seems there will be 70-100 btc in queued payouts, waiting for blocks.

I can deal with getting paid once everyday or three days, I can see the unlucky times with blocks. I don't have that much adding up, but some of the people that do are on IRC and they have no issues with how things are going. I hope things continue, but life is a gamble, and I'll still be here to earn the most.

  This has been made pretty clear

When and where has s0br made this clear?


waiting a few hours every once in awhile

It's been days waiting at times and I would say it's more than "once in awhile"

This thread would be better off if everyone would just keep it real and truthful

yeah, that is the thing I find confounding.   this whole idea of a scam originated from the claims of a single individual who created an account to grouse and moan that he didn't win a free miner in a contest.

that the pool has continued to pay out and those who are actually mining have gotten excellent support from the owner and his designates for months now doesn't appear to be enough to clear the specious claims of one clearly fake account.

Many of us got the 10% bonus for several months.  It was great while it lasted, especially since we all knew it couldn't last forever.


Late payouts can occur when this pool is catching up from an unlucky block.  This has been made pretty clear and we all understand the risks but so far, s0br has made good - sometimes with extra for inconvenience so we stick it out because the pool pays better than any other and waiting a few hours every once in awhile to get that is something that may of us are willing to risk

if you don't want to take that risk, it is understandable.  Mining is risk anyway.

 
I wasn't aware that providing support in this forum was a requirement for starting a pool.  Frankly, given that weakly substantiated attacks can continue by accounts clearly created for no other purpose than to defame the pool owner, I am not surprised that s0br doesn't come here to provide support.  What would be the point?  It would just devolve into an accusatory troll war and would be useless to those seeking help.  s0br provides direct support in IRC, email, and via the site tickets.  He and his folks are responsive, helpful and have always made it right...at least from my perspective and from others with whom I have spoken.

I am not generally one to jump onto things that appear to be too good to be true - which is pretty much how this pool has been characterized in this thread by a few who probably aren't even mining there - but the honest answer is that for those of us who have actually been mining there for the better part of 10 months now is that the pool does pay out and does so much better than the majority of other pools.

Diff Change! It went lower.

Share payout changed.
Was 0.0000000005271197
Now 0.0000000005351308

Expect unusual payments as payments are separate for different difficulties, if nothing changed since the last.


My payouts have been pretty regular at somewhere around 24 hours at a 12 hour setting.

Well strangely mining on a pool for 6 months will give you reason to post on a thread! Some people are so paranoid in this forum

In looking at your post history I am absolutely floored by the amount of time you spend posting in this thread.. Meanwhile my payouts keep coming....

Yes, he's one of s0br's many aliases I think.

You forgot to mention the "pretty" interface in your list of reasons for joining.......bitcoin marketing teams love pretty things

nope, i was reviewing half a dozen pools, and came across it then looking through blocktrail, posted a review, and had a bunch of people jump on me and troll the hell out of me. if you actually looked at my profile you can see exactly who i am unlike a lot of anonymous people here.

And nope, I didn't like the fact that I had to wait ages for payouts waiting to hit a minimum transaction fee, and that most of my shares got eaten up by zero block shifts. I ran a spreadsheet for all the pools, side by side, and this one gave me regular earnings, nice interface, and is the only pool that is actually constantly updating it's UI and interface. Every other pool is sitting on it's fee having done work two or three years ago, and Slush is the only other pool that's actually stepped up in response to the kind of data BAN is giving, to improve their own offerings. BTC Guild was my favourite look and feel wise before, but I'd left before they dropped their payout threshold to 0.001 and it wasn't enough to attract me back. I can choose where I point my own hardware, like everyone else.

From what I can see Eleuthria has always been fine and very open with his pool members in his own way, but PPLSN wasn't for me with a small amount of hashing power I have. I didn't want to mine on Discus Fish because of their %, and their interface is terrible. gHash is badly integrated with CEX, Antpool is ok, but again big. I've just spent the last month mining across MMPool, Triplemining, Bitminter, Kano and a load of others too, and none of them have as good an interface as BAN.

And the pool owner is contactable on the pool irc channel at least two or three times a day should i have a question, he sends newsletters occasionally with updates (ie the recent one about the DDOS extortion attempt), and if i can't reach him there i can submit a ticket and get a response in a day or two. Most pool owners I email don't even reply.

What a crock of shit. Are you s0br in disguise?

So, you went from mining at one of the most reliable, trustworthy & well maintained pools for over a year to mining at BAN because .......why? Let me guess, were you coaxed here by the:

Lure of a 10% bonus on earnings as stated on the thread page? No. Because it's a fabrication of course.

Maybe you prefer the constantly late payments?

Or maybe you like the complete lack of support/info/posts here by the OP?

Or was it that you didn't like the honesty of Eleuthria & much prefer a pool that is run by a proven scammer?

I see you have a Bitcoin Marketing Team in your sig - is this yours? Remind me not to hire you for any advice on BTC 

+1. I'm not day trading on mining and I've tried now 14 plus pools and think BAN still has the best interface. s0br does talk to people directly on irc, and i'm sure if he posted here again, certain people will jump on it. I've flagged a couple of times to him about the donation not working. His response as always is he's been building out the data, and responding to things reported here, even if he's not posting. He said the pool is being bipolar which made me laugh too!

But for Kano's stuff, every pool will have the same issue if it has a relatively fixed hashing rate (ie eligius and btcguild were always around the same) compared to a fluctuating world hash rate, and you can't use luck in the past to compare to the future. The only pools that will be able to swim against the current by maintaining their relative luck is either by getting more people mining week on week, piling on hardware (chinese pools/knc) or riding out the rough patches. This pool can hit five blocks a day if it wants to and luck is in favour, but I'd nearly give a 100% donation for a week to help go towards clearing the backlog - if it worked! I don't have much at the end of the day, but the pool's been my replacement to BTC Guild which I mined for most of 2014.