This thread is better than Coindesk.
what would be even better would be to know who is behind all these shill accounts, and what all their roles are in this story. 
Not hard if you're paying attention
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December 17, 2014, 09:15:16 PM
Not hard if you're paying attention
December 17, 2014, 09:10:13 PM
This thread is better than Coindesk.
what would be even better would be to know who is behind all these shill accounts, and what all their roles are in this story. Not hard if you're paying attention
December 17, 2014, 09:05:20 PM
This thread is better than Coindesk.
what would be even better would be to know who is behind all these shill accounts, and what all their roles are in this story. December 17, 2014, 08:37:23 PM
This thread is better than Coindesk.
December 17, 2014, 08:02:57 PM
coming from a former member of the group, this is RIGHT ON POINT!!!
edit: OMG after being away from alt markets for a month or two, going back and reading this thread is just EPIC.... fuckin' legandary mate.... sry for all the legit 'investors' that got scammed
edit: OMG after being away from alt markets for a month or two, going back and reading this thread is just EPIC.... fuckin' legandary mate.... sry for all the legit 'investors' that got scammed
Should seen all the great post I was putting there but the OP kept deleting them lol
December 17, 2014, 06:12:52 PM
sry for all the legit 'investors' that got scammed
Don't worry about me, I at least got my lost money's worth out of this spectacle. Though the next time these clowns pull their stunt I'd rather be just a spectator with my popcorn.
December 17, 2014, 04:57:02 PM
coming from a former member of the group, this is RIGHT ON POINT!!!
edit: OMG after being away from alt markets for a month or two, going back and reading this thread is just EPIC.... fuckin' legandary mate.... sry for all the legit 'investors' that got scammed
edit: OMG after being away from alt markets for a month or two, going back and reading this thread is just EPIC.... fuckin' legandary mate.... sry for all the legit 'investors' that got scammed
December 17, 2014, 02:52:15 PM
...
But what the Salamander found happening in Cambodia needed fixing. And that’s where the trouble began.
December 17, 2014, 02:08:30 PM
Intermezzo:
The BitBay ICO was a different animal for Bob’s group. It was, in some ways, a risky move.
For the first time, Bob would not control the coin.
Bob’s involvement was fairly limited: the Chinese heavies who were starting BitBay had lined up a dev in Zimbeck. But they had no expertise in marketing a coin. This was to be the responsibility of Bob and his group, in return for their share of the ICO.
The problem was that Bob did not control the majority of the coin supply. Bob was an old school pumper: he knew that knowing where the coins were, and having control over what was happening with them was crucial for moving a market. With BitBay the Chinese would hold the majority of the coins. And they could shaft Bob at anytime.
The Salamander was sent to China to sign off on the deal for Bob. The Salamander was not supposed to be the fixer this time around: Steve was in charge of the project. And Zimbeck of Halo fame had signed on to be the dev.
But what the Salamander found happening in Cambodia needed fixing. And that’s where the trouble began.
The BitBay ICO was a different animal for Bob’s group. It was, in some ways, a risky move.
For the first time, Bob would not control the coin.
Bob’s involvement was fairly limited: the Chinese heavies who were starting BitBay had lined up a dev in Zimbeck. But they had no expertise in marketing a coin. This was to be the responsibility of Bob and his group, in return for their share of the ICO.
The problem was that Bob did not control the majority of the coin supply. Bob was an old school pumper: he knew that knowing where the coins were, and having control over what was happening with them was crucial for moving a market. With BitBay the Chinese would hold the majority of the coins. And they could shaft Bob at anytime.
The Salamander was sent to China to sign off on the deal for Bob. The Salamander was not supposed to be the fixer this time around: Steve was in charge of the project. And Zimbeck of Halo fame had signed on to be the dev.
But what the Salamander found happening in Cambodia needed fixing. And that’s where the trouble began.
December 17, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
Once upon a time there was a guy named Bob ....
Previous chapters: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9867986
Intermezzo:
Gentle reader, I am speaking to you.
My back is to the stage. Looking past me you can see -can’t you? - that the stage has gone empty and quiet.
Where is Bob? He has not shown his face in days.
Where is Steven? He was moderating the “new, official” Bay thread. But he has not been there in days.
Where is David? He posted a long, rambling manifesto about the world conspiring against him, and then went silent.
Where is Paul? He has locked the official BitSwift thread and told his followers to board his ship and sail with him into the future.
Where is Lin? Where is the Salamander?
Gentle reader. We are early in the fourth act. The gruesome bloodletting of the past days has taken pause. The dogs of war have been kenneled. We do not know what happens next. Or perhaps we do. It is a Tragedy, after all.
We must continue with the Story of Bob. The best of times is over now. There is only self-destruction, treachery and revenge to come. We will see bagholders become backstabbers. We will see his group fall upon each other like wolves in a month-long spasm of greed, mistrust and betrayal that ends in the chaos of BitBay.
And it all began with the mole.
Part 5: Everything Falls Apart
Part 1: Bob.
There was a mole in the group.
We figured this out about halfway through XST. We were getting dumped into every time we pushed.
The worst part about the mole was not the information they stole, or the BTC they cost us, it was what they did to the fabric of the group. We were unable to root out the mole, and this changed everything.
The group chat had up until then been a rowdy, raucous free for all where Bob and the footsoldiers rubbed shoulders and smoked weed every day. Plays were discussed, strategies analyzed. Bob would hold forth on how to trade, how to make stacks. He would greet everyone with delight as they arrived. Bro! How you doin? You selling some? Don’t be greedy man, put up some small sells every day. But most of the chat was way off topic. Real estate in South America. How to stop Isis. Profit margins in a pizza business. Nootropics. Tattoos. Every variety of sex known to or ever possibly performed by humans, including midget clowns. Especially midget clowns.
The chat was our dusty meeting place that we hurried to as soon as we switched on our computers each day. It was open all day on our phones at work. It was the last window closed before sleep at night. And upon awakening, we would scroll the hundreds of messages, hungry for everything we had missed out on while sleeping.
That all came to an end because of the mole. And because the chat was our very heart, it was the beginning of the end for the group.
Once we were aware there was a mole, strategy was rarely talked about in the chat. Group plays were no longer discussed among equals, they were passed down from on high, carefully filtered. Bob withdrew from the chat more and more.
This killed us. The foot soldiers missed Bob. We liked him a lot. We had gathered around closely whenever he was there. And now he was mostly gone.
We were increasingly without a leader. Paul’s cool, cerebral style attracted some of the soldiers, but that could not fill the vacuum of Bob. The Salamander was even less suited to step in and lead. He was not a social animal like Bob. He was a quiet man, a fixer, a behind the scenes specialist.
But Bob did not see these things and trusted that somehow the group was being led. His mind was elsewhere. He was getting ready to leave for nearly a month on a trip and would not be back until just before the BitBay ICO. The Salamander was leaving the same day for Asia, where he would be coordinating preparations for BitBay. Bob asked Paul to hold the fort while he was gone.
2) The Salamander
I knew the Salamander least of all. He rarely spoke in the chat unless directly addressed. It was clear Bob trusted him, and that he played a key role in the group. But it was unclear to almost all of us who he was, and what exactly he did.
What I will tell you of the Salamander I mainly found out later, after things had fallen apart. And that was this: he was the fixer. The briefcase guy. The one who would go where the job needed to get done, then leave. And no one would know he had been there.
He had found us the coin for BitSwift. He was quietly involved in a half a other dozen coins. He had open back channels to almost everyone in crypto. He was everything Bob was not: quiet, methodical, invisible.
As the group began to stumble, the Salamander on his way to Asia to coordinate the BitBay ICO with the Chinese partners and David Zimbeck. In a perfect world, this would have worked out well. After all, the Salamander was a fixer. A project organizer. But as you know, gentle reader, this was not to be.
3) The bag holders.
We were looking for a leader. We came to the chat every day as October wore on. Anyone seen Bob? became a standard phrase we would find sitting in the chat window. Rotting. Unanswered. Just a blinking cursor.
The Mintpal 2.0 launch delay had killed us. Of course we had stayed in XST too long. We could have been out with 200 – 300% profits. But the air had been thick with moon talk and the tech looked good and Bob didn’t actually tell us directly, get out. now. Bob never said, no more. So we stayed in, and got hammered by dumps.
It was decided that XST launching on Mintpal 2.0 was going to be our exit. But Mintpal went down in flames and soon after, weaknesses were uncovered in the Stealth anon. XST tanked. And we were truly screwed.
Less than a month later, Swift was at the top, up almost 400% since the ICO. And the same thing happened. Everyone – Bob included - was talking moon. So we did not exit. We foot soldiers wanted to be team players, so we set high support. And got dumped into again.
Around that time, about a dozen people from the crew had decided to do a meet up in Amsterdam. Bob changed his flights so he could be there. The Salamander was on his way to Asia, and he too rebooked. When chat started streaming in from the whole crew in the basement of the Bulldog in Amsterdam it sounded fucking legendary. One of us messaged back, what is Bob saying about Swift?
I can’t believe those guys haven’t gotten out. What, they are up 300% and that’s not enough? What have I said, over and over again. Don’t be greedy. Sell a little every day.
Bob was almost out of Swift. Paul was just getting started. We were holding bags of worthless XST, and had missed our exit from Swift. There was a mole in the group. We had no leader. The mood was turning foul.
Everything was falling apart.
To be continued.
Previous chapters: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9867986
Intermezzo:
Gentle reader, I am speaking to you.
My back is to the stage. Looking past me you can see -can’t you? - that the stage has gone empty and quiet.
Where is Bob? He has not shown his face in days.
Where is Steven? He was moderating the “new, official” Bay thread. But he has not been there in days.
Where is David? He posted a long, rambling manifesto about the world conspiring against him, and then went silent.
Where is Paul? He has locked the official BitSwift thread and told his followers to board his ship and sail with him into the future.
Where is Lin? Where is the Salamander?
Gentle reader. We are early in the fourth act. The gruesome bloodletting of the past days has taken pause. The dogs of war have been kenneled. We do not know what happens next. Or perhaps we do. It is a Tragedy, after all.
We must continue with the Story of Bob. The best of times is over now. There is only self-destruction, treachery and revenge to come. We will see bagholders become backstabbers. We will see his group fall upon each other like wolves in a month-long spasm of greed, mistrust and betrayal that ends in the chaos of BitBay.
And it all began with the mole.
Part 5: Everything Falls Apart
Part 1: Bob.
There was a mole in the group.
We figured this out about halfway through XST. We were getting dumped into every time we pushed.
The worst part about the mole was not the information they stole, or the BTC they cost us, it was what they did to the fabric of the group. We were unable to root out the mole, and this changed everything.
The group chat had up until then been a rowdy, raucous free for all where Bob and the footsoldiers rubbed shoulders and smoked weed every day. Plays were discussed, strategies analyzed. Bob would hold forth on how to trade, how to make stacks. He would greet everyone with delight as they arrived. Bro! How you doin? You selling some? Don’t be greedy man, put up some small sells every day. But most of the chat was way off topic. Real estate in South America. How to stop Isis. Profit margins in a pizza business. Nootropics. Tattoos. Every variety of sex known to or ever possibly performed by humans, including midget clowns. Especially midget clowns.
The chat was our dusty meeting place that we hurried to as soon as we switched on our computers each day. It was open all day on our phones at work. It was the last window closed before sleep at night. And upon awakening, we would scroll the hundreds of messages, hungry for everything we had missed out on while sleeping.
That all came to an end because of the mole. And because the chat was our very heart, it was the beginning of the end for the group.
Once we were aware there was a mole, strategy was rarely talked about in the chat. Group plays were no longer discussed among equals, they were passed down from on high, carefully filtered. Bob withdrew from the chat more and more.
This killed us. The foot soldiers missed Bob. We liked him a lot. We had gathered around closely whenever he was there. And now he was mostly gone.
We were increasingly without a leader. Paul’s cool, cerebral style attracted some of the soldiers, but that could not fill the vacuum of Bob. The Salamander was even less suited to step in and lead. He was not a social animal like Bob. He was a quiet man, a fixer, a behind the scenes specialist.
But Bob did not see these things and trusted that somehow the group was being led. His mind was elsewhere. He was getting ready to leave for nearly a month on a trip and would not be back until just before the BitBay ICO. The Salamander was leaving the same day for Asia, where he would be coordinating preparations for BitBay. Bob asked Paul to hold the fort while he was gone.
2) The Salamander
I knew the Salamander least of all. He rarely spoke in the chat unless directly addressed. It was clear Bob trusted him, and that he played a key role in the group. But it was unclear to almost all of us who he was, and what exactly he did.
What I will tell you of the Salamander I mainly found out later, after things had fallen apart. And that was this: he was the fixer. The briefcase guy. The one who would go where the job needed to get done, then leave. And no one would know he had been there.
He had found us the coin for BitSwift. He was quietly involved in a half a other dozen coins. He had open back channels to almost everyone in crypto. He was everything Bob was not: quiet, methodical, invisible.
As the group began to stumble, the Salamander on his way to Asia to coordinate the BitBay ICO with the Chinese partners and David Zimbeck. In a perfect world, this would have worked out well. After all, the Salamander was a fixer. A project organizer. But as you know, gentle reader, this was not to be.
3) The bag holders.
We were looking for a leader. We came to the chat every day as October wore on. Anyone seen Bob? became a standard phrase we would find sitting in the chat window. Rotting. Unanswered. Just a blinking cursor.
The Mintpal 2.0 launch delay had killed us. Of course we had stayed in XST too long. We could have been out with 200 – 300% profits. But the air had been thick with moon talk and the tech looked good and Bob didn’t actually tell us directly, get out. now. Bob never said, no more. So we stayed in, and got hammered by dumps.
It was decided that XST launching on Mintpal 2.0 was going to be our exit. But Mintpal went down in flames and soon after, weaknesses were uncovered in the Stealth anon. XST tanked. And we were truly screwed.
Less than a month later, Swift was at the top, up almost 400% since the ICO. And the same thing happened. Everyone – Bob included - was talking moon. So we did not exit. We foot soldiers wanted to be team players, so we set high support. And got dumped into again.
Around that time, about a dozen people from the crew had decided to do a meet up in Amsterdam. Bob changed his flights so he could be there. The Salamander was on his way to Asia, and he too rebooked. When chat started streaming in from the whole crew in the basement of the Bulldog in Amsterdam it sounded fucking legendary. One of us messaged back, what is Bob saying about Swift?
I can’t believe those guys haven’t gotten out. What, they are up 300% and that’s not enough? What have I said, over and over again. Don’t be greedy. Sell a little every day.
Bob was almost out of Swift. Paul was just getting started. We were holding bags of worthless XST, and had missed our exit from Swift. There was a mole in the group. We had no leader. The mood was turning foul.
Everything was falling apart.
To be continued.
December 17, 2014, 01:37:10 PM
December 17, 2014, 12:32:25 PM
@ The Sound and the Fury
Agains, absolutely magnificent. Can't wait!!!!!!
Agains, absolutely magnificent. Can't wait!!!!!!
December 17, 2014, 12:03:02 PM
You guys are all retarded in my books, just sayin'.
Out of curiosity, how many books might that be?
December 17, 2014, 11:08:49 AM
You guys are all retarded in my books, just sayin'.
December 17, 2014, 10:44:34 AM
AltcoinUK is just a scammer like Bob, trying to scare people into selling their bay cheap so they can resell at a higher price
December 17, 2014, 10:16:50 AM
why is this thread still here? Whoever is responsable of this thread should delete it or end it. Its causing alot of confussion . . .
No!! No confusion!! David work very hard!! Everyone new thread please!! Thankyou for continued support!! 2.0 technology coming soon!
This guy says the same thing again and again . I do not see anything in terms of progress.
I apologize , but unless .. Steven or David post at least one bit of information related to the work thats going on , the interest in bay will gain confidence.
Are you an idiot or a troll?
There is no progress, no work "that's going on", Bitbay is a scam, the IPO was fake, David & Stevie & Bob & Lin created a fake volume you dumb fuck ... regardless that the 1 billion $ market cap still exists in your sick head.
STFU. You sound like a broken record.
December 17, 2014, 10:08:00 AM
why is this thread still here? Whoever is responsable of this thread should delete it or end it. Its causing alot of confussion . . .
What are you talking about ?
This is the original BitBay thread.
If you don't like it, don't read it and don't post in it.
Yes, This thread has turned into paid fudfest and altcoinuk obsession over bay. Please visit new thread for future updates.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbay-official-bitbay-thread-smart-contracts-decentralized-markets-rolling-peg-890531
December 17, 2014, 10:04:39 AM
why is this thread still here? Whoever is responsable of this thread should delete it or end it. Its causing alot of confussion . . .
What are you talking about ?
This is the original BitBay thread.
If you don't like it, don't read it and don't post in it.
December 17, 2014, 09:04:41 AM
how u liking those duracell batteries?
I am liking the price, 70 sat and will be 10 soon ... as a scam should be. No more money is coming into the scam boys. The money party (before it started) is over. Your very welcome LoL
Your boy bobby is spending time in jail pretty soon
At least, finally, you are almost correct about something. Almost correct, because not only Bobby, but all participants of the scam will be spending time in jail - including your David and Stevie, even Lin of Bter.
(Actually Bob is in the best position, since all information and facts about the scam was volunteered by Bob).
u pathetic kunt. I have been speaking to Deguerin about this ever since the day your boy Bobby came out of closet. Game is over, buddy. No more stealing money from victims.
Yes, you have been talking to DeGuerin - in your sick head. Same way as any absurdities could exist in your sick head like that the Dennis Rodman & Kim Jong Un duo is doing the pegging algorithm for Bitbay or Prof. Stephen Hawking is responsible for the quantum physics area of the magnificent Bitbay project ... because we understand anything is possible in Bitbay ... and because anything could pop up from your sick head when you are dreaming about Bitbay.
Stick to your Star War lightsaber and your regular masturbating in your mom's basement boy instead of posting here nonsense, your high-school lunch money is not going to be doubled with your great Bitbay project.
December 17, 2014, 08:57:40 AM
How is this thread not locked?? 
Zimbeck for investors sake please get this coin back on track, if those in power can kill it then better a quick death instead of slow (many folks have already been hit hard by this coin).
As for that Swift coin thing, well seems this Bob and Gekko dude got their fair share of ICO on that coin too...I never bought/saw it too late but I saw the chart, usual P&D. But from what I've seen, at least the coin is in a capable dev's hands who actually SAVED it (prob with his own effort and money) and it looks stronger than ever as of now.
Zimbeck for investors sake please get this coin back on track, if those in power can kill it then better a quick death instead of slow (many folks have already been hit hard by this coin).
As for that Swift coin thing, well seems this Bob and Gekko dude got their fair share of ICO on that coin too...I never bought/saw it too late but I saw the chart, usual P&D. But from what I've seen, at least the coin is in a capable dev's hands who actually SAVED it (prob with his own effort and money) and it looks stronger than ever as of now.
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