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What is not only nauseating but revolting also is that, in spite of all the facts and all the evidence presented and completely in the open, you -and others-, still continue not "getting it". In so many ways. Starting with the real numbers that have been posted numerous times. And continuing with still listening to Zimbeck the Turd, a pathological liar and proven scammer that everyone knows not only went along with the scam but made it possible and enthusiastically supported it. Not only that, along with "Steven" he continues perpetrating the pathetically insignificant version to this day.

What the fuck else do you want? ledgers to corroborate what you already know too well? what for? why do you need further corroboration, some kind of fetish? What does it matter at all, anyone with above a pea brain would run not walk from these crooks. And yet, nauseatingly, you -and others- keep insisting if "more proof"... wow. I understand the idiots that hold some bags and desperately hang on to whatever hope for another pump by "Steven" and his chinese pals to get out, at least there's a totally blind and stupid motive for their hanging on, but you? the rest able to think? come on!

Talk about beating a dead horse...

Edit to add: And just to make things perfectly clear since you have a willful selective understanding, which coins I have "...FUDing the living shit out of...", as you colorfully put it, that have not been proven -by me- to be total scams OR examples of outrageous ineptitude? Blackcoin? Total scam (The Black Hand, fully detailed in multiple threads including the officially restored one), Libertycoin? Who but me unmasked completely Carlos and proved he was a total scammer along with partner Loljosh, not just on Libertycoin but also in a dozen more? Pesa? take a look, because it surely has gone under your radar. PINK (I was so enthusiastic about it I included it in my WALL OF HONOR... only to discover that it had been a scam all along, as proven by the devs own words?
Now the obvious incompetent ones: Vericon, Nautiluscoin, Saffroncoin... not only I was modestly invested in those (I still am, albeit more modestly), but defended the fact that there were real people behind them, as a huge positive. But you can put behind any project Mother Theresa, if it doesn't know what she's doin it will remain an example of incompetence, just like those three have again and again proven to be. So exactly which coins I have FUDDED and with what purpose, since, I repeat, I am still -and have always been- invested in those?

It is, indeed, quite nauseating. Look in the mirror and vomit, I suggest.

 No, no. This was andn is about BAY and Zimbeck the Turd. It has strayed a bit of late, towards a more significant matter. And "my hand" is and has always been, Bitcoin. Alts were interesting for a while, until I discovered most were just very rudimentary scams and those that weren't outright scams, are either ill-fated by design (DRK, etc) or totally riddled by incompetence.

There are a couple of (potential) exceptions, in Ethereum and, as a very, very distant, in fact improbable second, Supernet. The rest will simply not survive.
But that happening, or the opposite, will have nothing whatsoever to do with my opinions based on the simplest common sense, or modest investments. Or whatever else you fathom "my hand" to be.

Oh Gosh... Zimbeck the Turd alone has at least 10 different wallets, probably more. "Steven" probably has 50 or more. And Lin? who knows.

No one has any interest in BAY, no one.

As it should be being as it is a SCAM.

There you go emilio! If the narrative doesn't serve your agenda, throw it out.

Batman, I insist on Batman.

100 wallets own 98.8% of Bitbay, is that a bad thing or a good thing? Kinda scary that we only have 100 people backing bitbay

@LOLA, everybody who is in bitcointalk for a long time know that barabbas is iconic expert and he lives in NY.

He already posted as ie using barabbas account and also as barabbas using ie account.

He is schizophrenic and has several personalities.

Many people here also knows who he is in real life. And he isn't Jose

to tha mooooooooooooooon

So what does everyone think about the price? Think we'll see a rise soon?

Jose is like a broken record, I wish he'd go back to acting

just sue that moron

I love it when I wake up and the witty minds have given me new pages to soak in.
At least the topics have changed to tangible things. And yes there is a place for altcoins to coexist with bitcoin. Part of the altcoin problem is the want to dethrone bitcoin, that could only happen by chance not by design. If the alt community came together instead of flaming each other I think prosperity and adoption would take hold sooner rather than later.

Glad you revealed your hand there. This isn't about Bitbay, it's not even about Zimbeck. It's about going after the competitors.

cannot believe as well.. lol
his arguments are so teenish.. i would give him less than 20 yo actually

so Barabbas is a real life actor (sort of) in his late 50s I expect so much more lol

No one is calling you Batman, just an out of work shitty, old as dust, Mexican actor, with a terrible acting reel.

You live in Reseda, CA and your phone number is: (818) 522 5987

You are with an agency called Baron Entertainment: http://www.baronentertainment.com/
Your e-mail is: [email protected]
You own a domain called: www.estoeshollywood.com

Maybe people should call the agency up (323-969-1000) and tell them that:

SCAMMER JOSE "BARABBAS" DE VEGA FROM RESEDA CALIFORNIA WWW.JOSEDEVEGA.COM
Is a known scammer, fraudster and criminal. He has defrauded many people, and continues to do so-- people like him deserve to experience the full might of the law.


You have tried to delete the evidence trail (which is screenshotted you idiot) thus making you even more culpable (because why would JoseDeVega2009 from twitter delete anything, if it wasn't you?)

Anyway, you have a lovely day Jose.

Alright, I'll try assert my point with an example:

I as an investor finds out about bitcoin. I google it and find this forum..I look up some info and then all of a sudden I see "altcoins" section. I find lets say "DRK" and I like the technology and transaction time is faster than BTC. So, I buy some DRK and BTC. Next thing, I see some punks who thinks world revolves around BTC comes in DRK thread and start Fudding their nonsense therefore price of DRK suffers and it goes down the shithole forcing me to sell my shares.

How digusted would I feel towards the "digital currency" community as a whole?

I don't see the difference between BTC or DRK besides the name and transaction time. For you, BTC is big boy because you bought it when it first came out but for new investors it's nothing more than digital currency just like altcoins are.  I think that's what most people keep forgetting. People who become interested in digital currency would lose interest the moment they see that it's jungle and nobody is interested in technology aspect of it.

IBM is also interested in IOT and I'm sure there will be new altcoin that's developed by them. What then? Would you get all pissy at them because they developed their own altcoin and all big companies are investing in it instead of BTC?

Another example: Reddit. They're going to come with their own altcoin..Are you going to get pissy at them? How are you planning to bring them down in case they become more popular than BTC?


You're assuming that they'll invest in BTC instead of creating their own altcoin and that's too far from the truth.

You are.

On just about everything you post.

You are VERY wrong. There's no reason for altcoins to exist, none. The only "reason", the only idea behind them, ALL of them, is to bypass the rules of law. Everything else is just crap. That's on the philosophical side. In the practical side, the vast majority -I'd say 99%, are created with just one purpose: To rob investors. The technology is fully and permanently praised not just by the convinced but by everyone, from big corporations (IBM fully working on blockchain tech) to everyone even connected with banks across the planet. So no lack of recognition there.

But as long as fraud is rampant, obviously altcoins run out of cash available pretty quick, therefore the incentive disappears. If you want to identify a scam coin nowadays, you have only to watch one thing: How many BTC is invested in it. If it is over 200 BTC you can be 100% sure that the devs are "buying" their own coin, which means getting it for free. There are no exceptions to this rule, none. The last big draw offering, who sucked every coin left for VC were Ethereum and Supernet. After that, it doesn't make a difference what you put out there: Anything over a total of 200 (and that if it is wildly successful) is a scam. Period.

And that is why the alts are going to quickly disappear with very few exceptions. plus, there's nothing behind them. Those that look for (real) anon and "decentralized" shit or "smart" contracts, all gimmicks of no real value because they are hindered by something called LAW. And the LAW is created and paid to pursue and punish those who try to avoid taxes. Or contract killers. Or buy drugs or weapons. They (the LAW... or the law enforcers) want to control that shit because, obviously, it cannot let it in the hands of the crooks, even if many within the law are crooked also. So the idea of anything "decentralized" is an exercise in absurdity in the practical world -now or in the future- and, currently, just another scam tool -or gimmick, if "innocent"-. Same with anon. Same with "smart" contracts... when was the last time you heard of anyone being satisfied with purchasing anything or any service that doesn't have the other side fuming because it was "taken"? Never has worked in thousands of years. Never will. And that is besides the practical fact that leaving your money in the "hands" of a programmed algo is something that could beging to have "penetration" maybe hundreds of years into the future... to be quote optimistic.

I don't know if the majority of the people associate bitcoin with commodity.n If they do, that's far from bad. Personally, I see it as the best imaginable storage of value available, by leaps and bounds. As for people selling it when its price rebounds, it's called market place. And it is positive because it asserts the real value of the commodity all along. Do you think that the recent adoption -with many more coming- of BTC by giants like Microsoft and Time Warner happens at this point in time just by chance? If you do, you may be right but I am convinced that they are convinced the price of BTC has pretty much reached its lowest possible and that it will rebound and very significantly in the future, no matter -or perhaps because of them- how many people trade it and cash out the profits. I believe they are actually placing significant bets on it, all the more significant because they are -for them- minimal still, on one side, and on the other because, precisely because they are such big entities, they can afford to hold the BTC for a while, profitably, instead of being forced to convert to FIAT -for a price- instantly.

I could be wrong, of course. But I am betting on it.

That "discovery" doesn't serve you agenda ah, Turd?

It's ok, call me Batman if you think it will serve the purpose of diluting the fact that you are a confirmed and denounced scammer, long before it blew up... not by you, but by me. Or keep on calling me Bobsurplus' shill, since it appears that Bob himself, that you also tried, won't fly. Let me repeat it to you one more time: Bob is one of the most despicable individuals on the face of the earth. He deserves to be thrown in jail and get the key lost but you, little liar, scammer, you are way worse than Bob will ever be. A hundred times worse for your enthusiastic participation in the scam while being fully aware of it... by continuing participating in the attempt at scam as you continue to participate right now. You are done, Turd. A despicable, pathetic side-show. A bad memory. A Turd.  Not even worth one more second of mental time.

And yes, in your desperate attempt to deviate the obvious, you brought up something that is in general true, regarding BC. A giant scam, as depicted in THE WALL OF SHAME and in other threads. But that's just another despicable, sad, episode of the history of crypto. The crooks got away with murder, so to speak. Like Bob. So far at least. That doesn't change the fact that you are a liar and a scammer, one foot note in the most recent episode. With no future, to boot.

You're forgetting the fact that majority of those people look at bitcoin as commodity. New buyers or not..they're not using bitcoin to buy stuff..they're using it as an investment and they convert it to fiat as soon as price has risen above their purchase price.

It doesn't fcking matter how many ATMs are created or how many people are aware of it. If people can't see the technology and how it's beneficial to the world then there is no future to it. Period.

Smart thing would be to let everything survive and focus on the coin that you believe in rather than trying to pull other crypto down. If Yen, Dollar, Euro, Denar and Pound can exist in the same world then there is no reason why Bitcoin, Bay, BC & DRK can't exist at the same time.