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Topic: BitBet "BFL Will Deliver" bet resolving soon, how did you bet? (Read 3345 times)

hero member
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I guess this thread is going to happen in every single forum section. See here.
hero member
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Lemme get my pitchfork.

Maybe that's what he's thinking Wink

It was a relatively balanced bet. So he probably expected to get 100BTC back (his 50 + 50 more). Instead he lost money.
hero member
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Totally, that guy who bet 50BTC lost like 11 cents! Lemme get my pitchfork.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
I just noticed that people lost money - even when betting on the right side!
http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/

Have a look:




E.g. this guy placed 50 BTC on "No" (which was correct):

21-02-13 15:50    No    710    50.00000000    146mo    49.93600046    1FRBb

But instead of receiving something like 100 (50+50) he did not even make his wager back!

Is bitbet.us buggy?

It looks like the bets are really heavily weighted. In other words, the first people to enter their winning bets get a lot more than the last, for the same bet. It does seem rather unfair that the last few winning bets actually lost money. Maybe Milk could tweak the weighting formula in the future to prevent that from happening with relatively even bets like this.

Let me get this straight! If I would have bet 10 BTC and won, all I would have gotten back is my bit if it was in some weighted position? I understand the weight aspect, but getting back less than what's wager after winning is not an ideal outcome.
hero member
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Doesn't betsofbitco.in take out 10% from the losing side though? For a relatively even-sided bet like this one that would be 4-5 times as much. And betsofbitco.in took like 5 days after the resolution date to pay off a winning bet I had with them which I was not amused about.

Bitbet has some room for improvement, but I still prefer them.

+1 no registration required at bitbet too.. I like that.

 Plus all my winners have been with bitbet and all my losers with betsofbitcoin.in.
jr. member
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Doesn't betsofbitco.in take out 10% from the losing side though? For a relatively even-sided bet like this one that would be 4-5 times as much. And betsofbitco.in took like 5 days after the resolution date to pay off a winning bet I had with them which I was not amused about.

Bitbet has some room for improvement, but I still prefer them.
hero member
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This is why I think betsofbitco.in is superior to bitbet.us. Early betters make more than late betters, but everybody is guaranteed to receive 100% of their initial bet, because betsofbitco.in takes the fee out of the losing side of the bets, not out of both sides.

Exactly. You should never lose money on a winning bet. bitbet.us should change their weighting algorithm imho.
mrb
legendary
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This is why I think betsofbitco.in is superior to bitbet.us. Early betters make more than late betters, but everybody is guaranteed to receive 100% of their initial bet, because betsofbitco.in takes the fee out of the losing side of the bets, not out of both sides.
legendary
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Mining since 2010 & Hosting since 2012
Absolutely.  People who bet way back when should be rewarded because of the extra risk they took.  Look at the dates of the ones that lost a little,  they are quite close to the resolve date so they had more information to go on.   Some people made out like a bandit,  BTC510 = yummy
jr. member
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I just noticed that people lost money - even when betting on the right side!
http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/

Have a look:




E.g. this guy placed 50 BTC on "No" (which was correct):

21-02-13 15:50    No    710    50.00000000    146mo    49.93600046    1FRBb

But instead of receiving something like 100 (50+50) he did not even make his wager back!

Is bitbet.us buggy?

It looks like the bets are really heavily weighted. In other words, the first people to enter their winning bets get a lot more than the last, for the same bet. It does seem rather unfair that the last few winning bets actually lost money. Maybe Milk could tweak the weighting formula in the future to prevent that from happening with relatively even bets like this.
hero member
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Bets placed to late and paid back minus a handling fee?

No. Bet closed 22-02-2013. Those bets were in time.
hero member
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Bets placed to late and paid back minus a handling fee?
hero member
Activity: 1162
Merit: 500
I just noticed that people lost money - even when betting on the right side!
http://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/

Have a look:




E.g. this guy placed 50 BTC on "No" (which was correct):

21-02-13 15:50    No    710    50.00000000    146mo    49.93600046    1FRBb

But instead of receiving something like 100 (50+50) he did not even make his wager back!

Is bitbet.us buggy?
legendary
Activity: 1973
Merit: 1007
Wow, a few people are about to make some serious coin! Mr 350, may I suggest you spend a fraction of your winnings on a nice Harley sportster 48?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-2011-harley-davidson-sportster-48-forty-eight-142257

Or maybe step it up to the next level and get yourself in a Porsche?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sold-300-bitcoins-2007-porsche-cayman-s-8200-miles-143722
hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Irregularities in the die pics they've recently posted have me considering betting against them and I never bet outside of a poker room.

May I suggest that you bet against them at http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=665 (disclosure: I submitted it)

That bet runs until June 30.  This one will pay sooner:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=701

Betting closes in 4 days.

How long does it take those assholes to pay out though?
legendary
Activity: 966
Merit: 1000
Irregularities in the die pics they've recently posted have me considering betting against them and I never bet outside of a poker room.

May I suggest that you bet against them at http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=665 (disclosure: I submitted it)

That bet runs until June 30.  This one will pay sooner:

http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=701

Betting closes in 4 days.
mrb
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1028
Irregularities in the die pics they've recently posted have me considering betting against them and I never bet outside of a poker room.

May I suggest that you bet against them at http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=665 (disclosure: I submitted it)
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Irregularities in the die pics they've recently posted have me considering betting against them and I never bet outside of a poker room.
hero member
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Merit: 502

I think that bet was my suggestion... I'm sure others did too though.
hero member
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Merit: 500
Thank you BFL for some month with easy money  Grin
I used betsofbitco.in and bitbet.us so far to bet against BFL.

As for April: Not so sure. I think BFL will ship their products in late April (well, if their design is not completely borked).

But this bet is so ambiguous ("Devices must be in scope of +-10% of advertised performance in order to be accepted as valid.") that it's suicide to place money on "yes".
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