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The first week of this service has finished. A week of lies, faking results on several websites using by this service and a huge loss of 10.60 units. Honest discussions are a waste of time with this kind of personalities. I stick to the results no matter if they win or lose and I'll update all of them a few times a week.

Odds average 1.90. Source the TS.

Day 1. Won 0.25 units. Winning tips 2½. Losing tips 2  
Note. The Asian handicap pick of this day was Schalke04. It was a ½ win. The information on the website http://www.bettersoccertips.com and the spreadsheet of Water_kel is not correct. They both telling you that it was a full win.

Day 2. Lost 1.2 units. Wining tips 2 - Losings tips 3

Day 3. Lost 3.5 units. Winning tips 0 - Losing tips 3½. 1 void.  
Note. The Asian handicap pick of this day was Jong Ajax. It was a 0.5 loss of the whole stake.

Day 4. Lost 0.3 units. Winning tips 3 - Losing tips 3

Day 5. Lost 3.2 units. Winning tips 2 - Losings tips 5
Note. TS refused to include one losing tip on his spreadsheet. He gave that tip December 14 on the forum. The spreadsheet showing 2-4 but it is 2-5. One losing tip was washed away on the website and replaced by a winning tip that was never delivered to the followers.

Day 6. Won 0.9 units. Winning tips 1 - Losings tips 0
Note. Only one tip was delivered. The winning stats on December 15 from the websites delicatetips and bettersoccertips weren’t delivered to the followers and therefore they cannot taking serious.

Day 7. Lost 3.55 units. Winning tips ½  - Losing tips 4
Note. Again the website bettersoccertips shows the ½ win as a full win on their ice records of December.


Total
Winning tips 11
Losing tips 20½
Void 1
Win percentage of the tips 33.8%


Wining days 2
Best day 0.90 units on day 6
Losing days 5
Worst day 3.55 units on day 7
 
Longest strike
4 losing days on a row. Day 2 until day 5

Total lost 7 days after the start of subscription 10.60 units


Using the example of the spreadsheet on the first posting. Now with the fair confirmed and traceable results from the start of the subscription on 10 December.

Assume bet amount for each tip 0.1 BTC
Average odds 1.9
BTC you lost: 1.060 BTC
30 days membership: 0.8 BTC
NET LOST: 1.860 BTC http://picthost.net/image.php?di=T3FF

Time duration 7 days
full member
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December 16

bettersoccertips

White tip: Hannover 96 v Augsburg. Tip Augsburg 0 (Lost)
Ice tip: Entella v Modena. Tip under 2.25  (Half Win)

delicatetips
Nantes v Metz. Tip Nantes -0.75 (Lost) (extra time does not count - the bet is finished after regular time)
Greuther Furth v Bochum. Tip Greuther Furth -0.5 (Lost)

jackpotsoccertips
Hamburger SV v  Stuttgart. Tip Hamburger -0.5 (Lost)

Won and Lost
0.5 win and 4 lost
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And you believe that or are you naive? Take a look at the results on delicatetips on the day you did not receive tips from them.



After the losing days they showing 2 wins exactly on the day no one received their tips. That is how the sites of Water_kel doing it all the time on losing periods. Changing losing tips in winning tips, not sending tips but showing them as wins on their sites. Not showing losing tips and sending second mystery tips on Sunday, something the fixedmatches site normally never do, that no one except Water_kel has ever received.

Betterscocer tips did not update their stats for the last 4 days. They had to many losing days so that doesn't look good on their "80% win rate page". At the time they will update it, 15 December can show any results they want.

There will be winning days. Not even the worse predictor can lose every day and on the wining days everything will be fine. The stats will be real on those days and Water_kel will show up with the same arguments how good his picking sites are.

Sure, I have my own thoughts about all of this but on this stage I refuse to start discussions on this thread. I hate discussions - it makes me tired and sad. I spoke with Water about my thoughts. Make your own judgment with your evidence if you like.
To prevent some of the discussions: from now on I place all the final results of the tips that I have received. Like a middleman between Water, the websites and the forum. I will do that as long as my subscription lasts.
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For the haters and attackers who wanted to extort us:

Now there is a big bounty for you and you do not need to extort us with 0.36 BTC?

Bounty: 10 BTC
If you find evidence that we owned any of the sources/tipsters, post it here.
Go.  Wink
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@Water_kel

You could prove that they are not a scam by posting a hashed version of the Tips before the matches start and the plain text after.
The good thing about this is that no one would be able to get them for free, but they will be able to tell that the tips and hit % is real and has not been altered to hide losing tips.

It might seem like a lot of work but it really isn't, hashing the tips would only take a minute, google "sha-256 hash calculator" or go to http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator  enter tip in plain text click "calculate" and you get a sha-256 version of the tip.
For example:
Text: Real Madrid -2.5
Hash: 54fb9c0176adf0f7070dc2d6a9bc4f61a7bf1d8140acab9bb40a60d60426cd77

Do these for 30 to 50 tips and everyone would be able to judge the real hit rate, before risking their bankrolls on inaccurate tips or money on potential scams.


I have read it for a view times and finally I know what you mean.
We don't need to do this because we have our subscribers.
newbie
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@Water_kel

You could prove that they are not a scam by posting a hashed version of the Tips before the matches start and the plain text after.
The good thing about this is that no one would be able to get them for free, but they will be able to tell that the tips and hit % is real and has not been altered to hide losing tips.

It might seem like a lot of work but it really isn't, hashing the tips would only take a minute, google "sha-256 hash calculator" or go to http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator  enter tip in plain text click "calculate" and you get a sha-256 version of the tip.
For example:
Text: Real Madrid -2.5
Hash: 54fb9c0176adf0f7070dc2d6a9bc4f61a7bf1d8140acab9bb40a60d60426cd77

Do these for 30 to 50 tips and everyone would be able to judge the real hit rate, before risking their bankrolls on inaccurate tips or money on potential scams.

newbie
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tl;dr: Bitbettips and their websites are pure scam. Don’t waste your money on them.

They scammed me for 40 euro but I was lucky to place the only winning bet of the Saturday for 100 euro Cheesy before I found out they faking the history results...
newbie
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On 15 December I received only one tip in total. It came from jackpottips.
Deportivo v Elche - Deportivo -0.25 Won

I was informed that bettersoccertips had a free day and there was something with the subscription of delicatetips that had to be renewed or something

The score for 15 December is 1-0

And you believe that or are you naive? Take a look at the results on delicatetips on the day you did not receive tips from them.

https://i.imgur.com/2JuJgL0.jpg

After the losing days they showing 2 wins exactly on the day no one received their tips. That is how the sites of Water_kel doing it all the time on losing periods. Changing losing tips in winning tips, not sending tips but showing them as wins on their sites. Not showing losing tips and sending second mystery tips on Sunday, something the fixedmatches site normally never do, that no one except Water_kel has ever received.

Betterscocer tips did not update their stats for the last 4 days. They had to many losing days so that doesn't look good on their "80% win rate page". At the time they will update it, 15 December can show any results they want.

There will be winning days. Not even the worse predictor can lose every day and on the wining days everything will be fine. The stats will be real on those days and Water_kel will show up with the same arguments how good his picking sites are.
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Water seems busy so I update the score for him. On 15 December I received only one tip in total. It came from jackpottips.
Deportivo v Elche - Deportivo -0.25 Won

I was informed that bettersoccertips had a free day and there was something with the subscription of delicatetips that had to be renewed or something

The score for 15 December is 1-0



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This is the exact scam I warned of. The poster will claim outrageous win rates. Then once you subscribe you see they made everything up and they start losing and making excuses about why you're losing.
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If you want all the real records from real tips including the postponed one, it is a 3 WIN 5 LOSE.

PSV and Manchester United were the winnings yesterday. Tell me the 3rd one. I guess all the subscribers will happy to agree when you are right.

You still saying that Lille is the 3rd genuine winning tip? When are you done with this nonsenses?


YES Lille is the 3rd winning tip.
Whether you believe it or not, it is the second tip sent by Fixed Archive Matches in one day.
But it is a truth that we did not deliver this tip to our subscribers.
So we change it to a 2-4 record.
newbie
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If you want all the real records from real tips including the postponed one, it is a 3 WIN 5 LOSE.

PSV and Manchester United were the winnings yesterday. Tell me the 3rd one. I guess all the subscribers will happy to agree when you are right.

You still saying that Lille is the 3rd genuine winning tip? When are you done with this nonsenses?

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You trying to say that you received messages from me asking you for money or do I misunderstand you here? Be clear about this.


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You said we want to change the record. We didn't. A big room of arguments exists for yesterday's record. We respect our subscribers so we change it to what he likes

How do you mean you respect your subscribers and changed it like they like it? The tips they received yesterday were 5 losses and 2 winnings. No more and no less. There is nothing to change about that in their favor or how they like it.

The only thing they like are real winnings from real tips. They don't like to pay and discover after their payment that you and all those picks sites of you misleading them.
You open a new account to pay so much attention to my post. Thanks a lot!
If you want all the real records from real tips including the postponed one, it is a 3 WIN 5 LOSE.
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You trying to say that you received messages from me asking you for money or do I misunderstand you here? Be clear about this.


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You said we want to change the record. We didn't. A big room of arguments exists for yesterday's record. We respect our subscribers so we change it to what he likes

How do you mean you respect your subscribers and changed it like they like it? The tips they received yesterday were 5 losses and 2 winnings. No more and no less. There is nothing to change about that in their favor or how they like it.

The only thing they like are real winnings from real tips. They don't like to pay and discover after their payment that you and all those picks sites of yours misleading them.
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The first unedited post.

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7 tips in total
3 WIN 4 LOSE

After comments from buyers with the real results.

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As we all know a postponed match won't be counted for every tipster.
So it is a 2 WIN 4 LOSE if the tip of Juan one and Lille one are not counted.
We will correct it now.

Nice try to change a 2 win and 5 lose into a 3 win and 4 lose. That makes a lot of difference. 1 stake lost versus 3 stakes lost.

You added Lille “the mystery second tip of the day” to the winnings and with a vague statement you did not count Juan Aurich to the lost ones. That same game that still not shows as a lost on the Fixed matches website.

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As we all know a postponed match won't be counted for every tipster.

Why can't we see the losing Udinese tip on the fixed results website?
How come that fixed matches offered a second tip one the same day? They offering one tip a day on the weekends as long as the history is telling us on the website.
Why did the payers only received the losing tip?

You know the answers right? The second "mystery tip" did not exist at all until the game was played. The first losing tip just vanished.


Two pick tipsters of Betbit are already busted with evidence and Water_Kal tried to do the same but was busted today.

Fixed matches with their 85% hit rate changing losing games in mystery never delivered winning games whenever they want or need.

DelicateTips shows a history of 5 years with winrates of 65% even to 89% but the domain exists for only a few months. The last weeks since they had real buyers of their tips, and therefore it is harder to fake the results, the losses are significant.

Looking to the third source.
bettersoccertips.com

They have two kind of tips. They call it white and ice tips. They showing results from April 2012. Again with insane win rates more than 70%. Win rates that are impossible on the long term with 1.9 odds.

Look what happens when the subscription of this thread started on 10 December and everyone who paid following the real results, so it is harder to fake the stats.
Ice picks 1-4


white picks 1-3 and one draw.


2 wins and 7 losses.

For the insane results of the past take a look of the history.
http://www.bettersoccertips.com/white.html
http://www.bettersoccertips.com/ice.html

Received your email again and please keep up your hard work.
"The negatives made their points. U was helpless and made big mistakes on the forum. Ur scam is revealed. U did not accepted the offer to stop the negatives before it was too late. Ur biggest wish and only rescue is that they remove all the negatives. That will not happen no more.

2 days ago u still had big opportunities to make money with the service. 2 days later ur service is broken. Life is rude.

U gave me some free pleasure. I go to the store and buy popcorn."

The old one.
"You can earn monthly good money with your Bitbettips. It is scam but a good scam I admit.
Now ur thread is affected by negatives and ur picking service will fall with it. They getting more angry every day. No money for you.

For 0.36 BTC your problems will be solved. We help. On time only offer. This is serious. Reply within 12 hours or the offer is waved."

Your shit is worth 0.36 BTC, seriously?

You said we want to change the record. We didn't. A big room of arguments exists for yesterday's record. We respect our subscribers so we change it to what he likes.

If you buy the tips from the original seller of Fixed Archive Matches, you did receive two tips with 1 WIN and 1 LOSE. The second tip was delivered near the match started. We feel unsatisfied that they only put the record of the winning one. We have shown our unsatisfactory to them and will not recommend our subscribers to follow this tipster anymore.

And you are still repeating your points that we have clarified. We are not going to repeat it once more.

Lastly, all our money is waiting for you if you find evidence that proves that we owns any source. Cheers.
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The first unedited post.

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7 tips in total
3 WIN 4 LOSE

After comments from buyers with the real results.

Quote
As we all know a postponed match won't be counted for every tipster.
So it is a 2 WIN 4 LOSE if the tip of Juan one and Lille one are not counted.
We will correct it now.

Nice try to change a 2 win and 5 lose into a 3 win and 4 lose. That makes a lot of difference. 1 stake lost versus 3 stakes lost.

You added Lille “the mystery second tip of the day” to the winnings and with a vague statement you did not count Juan Aurich to the lost ones. That same game that still not shows up as a lost on their site.

Quote
As we all know a postponed match won't be counted for every tipster.

Why can't we see the losing Udinese tip on the site?
How come that fixed matches offered a second tip on the same day? They offering one tip a day on the weekends as long as the history is telling us on their site
Why did the payers only received the losing tip?

You know the answers right? The second "mystery tip" did not exist at all or was not give away until the game was played and was a winner. The first losing tip just vanished from their site.


Two pick tipsters of Betbit are already busted with evidence and Water_Kel tried to do the same but was busted today.

Fixed matches with their 85% hit rate changing losing games in mystery never delivered winning games whenever they want or need.

DelicateTips shows a history of 5 years with winrates from 65% even to 89% but the domain exists for only a few months. The last weeks since they had real buyers of their tips, and therefore it is harder to fake the results, the losses are significant.

Looking to the third source.
bettersoccertips.com

They have two kind of tips. They call it white and ice tips. They showing results from April 2012. Again with insane win rates with more than 70%. Win rates that are impossible on the long term with 1.9 odds.

Look what happens when the subscription of this thread started on 10 December and everyone who paid following the real results, so it is harder to fake the stats.
Ice picks 1-4
https://i.imgur.com/esGSLZ6.jpg

white picks 1-3 and one draw.
https://i.imgur.com/Gc6ROHq.jpg

2 wins and 7 losses.

For the insane results of the past take a look of the history.
http://www.bettersoccertips.com/white.html
http://www.bettersoccertips.com/ice.html
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As we all know a postponed match won't be counted for every tipster.
So it is a 2 WIN 4 LOSE if the tip of Juan one and Lille one are not counted.
We will correct it now.
Juan Aurich - Sporting Cristal : 1 @ 2.00
Now the odds from bet365 is 1.9
Good luck to you all!

You placed the postponed Juan Aurich tip yesterday on the forum and gave it as a tip and thus it counts for everyone who subscribed since 10 December as well. The tip lost. You can exclude it from your stats but I include it on mine.

Lille is only visible on that fixed matches website to replace the real losing sunday tip Udinese. Udinese is not included on that website. The fixed matches website is manipulating the stats.

On sunday the daily weekend pick Udinese was delivered to the paying customers and not Lille. 2 wininings and 5 losses is the correct score for day 5.


Odds average 1.90. Source the TS.

Day 1. Won 0.25 units
Winning tips 2½  
Losing tips 2  
Note. The Asian handicap pick of this day was Schalke04. It was a ½ win. The information on the website http://www.bettersoccertips.com and the spreadsheet of Water_kel is not correct. They both telling you that it was a full win.

Day 2. Lost 1.2 units
Wining tips 2
Losings tips 3

Day 3. Lost 3.5 units
Winning tips 0
Losing tips  3½      
Void 1        
Note. The Asian handicap pick of this day was Jong Ajax. It was a 0.5 loss of the whole stake.

Day 4. Lost 0.3 units
Winning tips 3
Losing tips  3  

Day 5. Lost 3.2 units
Winning tips 2
Losings tips 5
Note. TS refused to include one losing tip on his spreadsheet. He gave it as a tip yesterday on the forum. The spreadsheet showing 2-4 but it is 2-5. One losing tip was washed away on the website and replaced by a winning tip that was never delivered to the followers.

Total
Winning tips
Losing tips 16½
Void 1
Win percentage of the tips 35.19%


Wining days 1
Best day 0.25 units on day 1
Losing days 4
Worst day 3.5 units on day 3
 
Longest strike
4 losing days on a row. Day 2 until now.

Total lost 5 days after the start of the subscription 7.95 units


Using the example of the spreadsheet on the first posting. Now with the fair confirmed and traceable results from the start of the subscription on 10 December

Assume bet amount for each tip 0.1 BTC
Average odds 1.9
BTC you lost: 0.795
30 days membership: 0.8 BTC
NET LOST: 1.595 BTC

Time duration 5 days
full member
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So even if you lose everything people will still get a profit?
I don't get these kind of games..
So you consider all the future with just a few days of losing?
I don't get your point.
hero member
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I <3 VW Beetles
So even if you lose everything people will still get a profit?
I don't get these kind of games..
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Yesterday performance 14/12/2014
7 tips in total
3 WIN 4 LOSE

Hmm, it was 2 wins and 5 loses

delicatetips.com
Leverkusen - Borussia Moenchengladbach  Tip Leverkusen -0.75 lost
PSV – Twente Tip: PSV -1 Win

bettersoccertips.
Atletico Madrid – Villarreal :  Atletico Madrid -0.75 lost
Manchester United – Liverpool: Manchester United -0.5 win

jackpotsoccertips
Sevilla – Eibar: Sevilla -1.25  lost

Fixed matches
Udinese – Verona: Udinese lost
Juan Aurich - Sporting Cristal: Juan Aurich lost

Very disappointing to see that the fixed matches are faking the stats  Sad
As we all know a postponed match won't be counted for every tipster.
So it is a 2 WIN 4 LOSE if the tip of Juan one and Lille one are not counted.
We will correct it now.
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