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Quote from: abcdef123456 on May 24, 2020, 12:24:09 PM

Hello,
does somebody know if bitcoin blender is online again? If its online again, do we have the same balance on out account like before?

Unfortunately it's hard to recover it by now since as other member said bitblender doesn't respond to any pm's at this point so provably you will struggle for this since no one can help you out if the owner will decide to shut up forever, it's best to forget to move on since it's close to impossible to get what you wanted here.

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Quote from: abcdef123456 on May 24, 2020, 12:24:09 PM

Better to move on and forget to those coins you do had into their site and thats why its always been important to read up updates actively
or whats happening on crypto space so that you would really be aware and able to react or do action in case of some emergencies
like closure etc.

Topic should be locked.....

I can relate with him here since he just trying he's to recover his stock funds from that site but unfortunately this is impossible right now so best suggestion for this is to move on.

This topic should be lock since there are so many valid answer given already.

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Quote from: abcdef123456 on May 24, 2020, 12:24:09 PM

Hello,
does somebody know if bitcoin blender is online again? If its online again, do we have the same balance on out account like before?

Its been a year already and you just showed up and asking about getting back online? Where in the world you've been lurking after all this time? Cheesy

(Joke!)

Just like on what being said above where they do give some time to let their users able to withdraw the funds out and yes it was short but at least they do give out chances rather than shutting their doors instantly.

Better to move on and forget to those coins you do had into their site and thats why its always been important to read up updates actively
or whats happening on crypto space so that you would really be aware and able to react or do action in case of some emergencies
like closure etc.

Topic should be locked.....

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Quote from: abcdef123456 on May 24, 2020, 12:24:09 PM

Hello,
does somebody know if bitcoin blender is online again? If its online again, do we have the same balance on out account like before?

You might wanna just give up on that lost money and move on. It's now almost over a year since they decided to shut down their business abruptly. It was something that happened on short notice, and they gave people who have their balances in their site to withdraw it within a week. After that, the owners wiped up their servers and went dark never to be seen again.

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Quote from: abcdef123456 on May 24, 2020, 12:24:09 PM

Hello,
does somebody know if bitcoin blender is online again? If its online again, do we have the same balance on out account like before?

Nope. Unfortunately, they already closed their website long time ago and they only gave a couple of days for people to take their coins out. If you didn't, chances of you recovering them are pretty slim. I have tried to talk with them or help other users in the same situation as yours and they never replied back.

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Hello,
does somebody know if bitcoin blender is online again? If its online again, do we have the same balance on out account like before?

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Quote from: gentlemand on June 02, 2019, 04:19:19 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on June 02, 2019, 04:16:27 PM

I'm sure that Chipmixer is all aware of what is going on and could be working from behind to be one step ahead of the game.

They're clearly serious about staying in the business so I presume they foresaw this and planned accordingly. All the same we've no idea what might trigger them. The people who popped up on here with long term money left on Bitblender is a tad alarming. Users need to readjust their behaviour. Things can happen quickly.

Definitely, Chipmixer should have plan a, b and c in place something like this come up. And remember it is very different on how they operate, the method is first of it's kind so it's hard to 'break' it.

As for people who gets their money trap on Bitblender, I guess majority of their users didn't see it coming. Bad timing for them if you're mixing during the moment they shut it down.

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Quote from: freedomgo on June 04, 2019, 08:23:56 AM

Well, that's how the market works, chipmixer is now the leading mixer in the market but bestmixer was also big and one of its competitors but I'm sure a new mixer will become popular again and until they will find a way not to get shut down by any government agency.

For most mixers -- if they're run correctly -- the only thing that should be at risk is the clearnet domain. A .com or similar domain can be easily seized, but servers and funds should be another matter. Bestmixer's mistake was operating from Europe from easily surveillable jurisdictions. It would be much more difficult for authorities to seize servers elsewhere in the world outside of the US or Europe.

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Quote from: illyiller on June 04, 2019, 02:08:21 AM

Quote from: Questat on June 04, 2019, 01:34:26 AM

I convince myself that in every mixer that will shutdown, there will be a new one that will open its business, this industry would not die.

You got that right. The darknet markets are booming. That money needs to be mixed somewhere. Just like when Bitmixer left, others stepped in to fill the vacuum. In fact, Bitmixer shutting down is probably what allowed Chipmixer to get so big.

Well, that's how the market works, chipmixer is now the leading mixer in the market but bestmixer was also big and one of its competitors but I'm sure a new mixer will become popular again and until they will find a way not to get shut down by any government agency.

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Quote from: Questat on June 04, 2019, 01:34:26 AM

I convince myself that in every mixer that will shutdown, there will be a new one that will open its business, this industry would not die.

You got that right. The darknet markets are booming. That money needs to be mixed somewhere. Just like when Bitmixer left, others stepped in to fill the vacuum. In fact, Bitmixer shutting down is probably what allowed Chipmixer to get so big.

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Quote from: gantez on May 28, 2019, 01:22:33 PM

Is an unfortunate information coming in to the forum, I'm just reading this thread now. I hope people got their coin back?. I think chipmixer is the one currently available for anonymous services.

I hope Chipmixer will not stop their operation so we can still have enjoy mixing our coins and will retain our anonymity in the space.
Chipmixer is one of the trusted mixer here and I can vouch this based on my experience.

2 mixers are down so far, but I'm not expecting there will be new big mixer that will or be shut down.
We know the reason for bestmixer's shut down, but bitblender is just the decision of the owner to stop and until now we are only seeing speculation on the reasons why they shut down.

Is there any word at all from Chipmixer regarding all of this?
I wouldn't even know what jurisdiction they are in, so I hope they don't have their servers in any European countries.

Might be the end of public Bitcoin mixers...

They are not shutting anytime I guess and I am just hoping they will stay long in the business for long.
I don't read any statement from them, but they should be good.

I convince myself that in every mixer that will shutdown, there will be a new one that will open its business, this industry would not die.

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Quote from: malevolent on June 02, 2019, 08:39:01 PM

Quote from: gentlemand on June 02, 2019, 04:19:19 PM

They're clearly serious about staying in the business so I presume they foresaw this and planned accordingly. All the same we've no idea what might trigger them. The people who popped up on here with long term money left on Bitblender is a tad alarming. Users need to readjust their behaviour. Things can happen quickly.

Storing bitcoins on an exchange or other website longer than reasonably necessary isn't the smartest thing to do, but if a site works reliably without issues for years, almost 5.5 years in bitblender's case, people start assuming the business can be trusted. In the case of a mixer there are also privacy benefits towards not spending all mixed coins as soon as possible.

It cant really be avoided on not to trust up such service which people been using for 5years.Trust cant be build up overnight and this mixer do get that confidence into its users which for them to trust and store up
their coins but sadly this thing do suddenly happen to them which is really very unexpected.

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Quote from: gentlemand on June 02, 2019, 04:19:19 PM

They're clearly serious about staying in the business so I presume they foresaw this and planned accordingly. All the same we've no idea what might trigger them. The people who popped up on here with long term money left on Bitblender is a tad alarming. Users need to readjust their behaviour. Things can happen quickly.

Storing bitcoins on an exchange or other website longer than reasonably necessary isn't the smartest thing to do, but if a site works reliably without issues for years, almost 5.5 years in bitblender's case, people start assuming the business can be trusted. In the case of a mixer there are also privacy benefits towards not spending all mixed coins as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 02, 2019, 04:16:27 PM

I'm sure that Chipmixer is all aware of what is going on and could be working from behind to be one step ahead of the game.

They're clearly serious about staying in the business so I presume they foresaw this and planned accordingly. All the same we've no idea what might trigger them. The people who popped up on here with long term money left on Bitblender is a tad alarming. Users need to readjust their behaviour. Things can happen quickly.

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Quote from: CryptoBry on June 01, 2019, 10:09:14 AM

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Looks like what Bitmixer.IO said in 2017 is coming into fruition now, it's a bit scary to hear this from Bitmixer.IO himself that time and everyone is questioning him since they are one of the biggest if not the biggest mixing services you can find in this community. Chipmixer is the last man standing. Grin. Although it still considered a fairly new exchange, if I'm not mistaken.

I am sure that sooner than later the pressure will be on Chipmixer as it is the remaining operating service provider on the business. Indeed, what Bitmixer said in 2017 is now coming true. When regulatory bodies of many countries can start using their powers, there is nothing we can do but comply or we can go to court to reverse any harm done (but this is quite self-defeating to say the least). Let's hope that Chipmixer is doing all it can to stay away from the crouching power of the state.

There are still a lot of mixing services around, like https://[banned mixer]/, although they don't have any signature campaign, they're older than Chipmixer as they are built around 2016. But yeah, Bitmixer could have seen this in 2017 hence, everyone was quite surprised to see his statement that time. I'm sure that Chipmixer is all aware of what is going on and could be working from behind to be one step ahead of the game.

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Looks like what Bitmixer.IO said in 2017 is coming into fruition now, it's a bit scary to hear this from Bitmixer.IO himself that time and everyone is questioning him since they are one of the biggest if not the biggest mixing services you can find in this community. Chipmixer is the last man standing. Grin. Although it still considered a fairly new exchange, if I'm not mistaken.

I am sure that sooner than later the pressure will be on Chipmixer as it is the remaining operating service provider on the business. Indeed, what Bitmixer said in 2017 is now coming true. When regulatory bodies of many countries can start using their powers, there is nothing we can do but comply or we can go to court to reverse any harm done (but this is quite self-defeating to say the least). Let's hope that Chipmixer is doing all it can to stay away from the crouching power of the state.

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BitMixer shutdown after Btc-e sized. -----> Bitblender shutdown after Bestmixer sized Cheesy

(There seems to be a similarity between the two stories.)

I thought Chipmixer was an extension of Bitmixer (because of the similarity between them). But what happens may be an indication that I'm wrong. Perhaps Bitblender team/developer is one of the members involved with Bitmixer.

Generally, no one can prove more but it is really unfortunate to see them leave.

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Quote from: AdolfinWolf on May 31, 2019, 08:02:23 AM

Quote from: TryNinja on May 30, 2019, 09:46:06 PM

Quote from: Thirdspace on May 30, 2019, 06:53:43 PM

How can you tell if the next new mixer isn't created by the same person/team
if he starts over completely with no resemblance to the old mixer, you can't really tell, can you?
new bct username, new hosting, new domain, different mix technique, etc to show no connection
we, people, humans, tend to be greedy by nature Grin

we want more than what we already have

If he was greed, he would keep going under BitMixer’s name. It was probably the most trusted and most famous mixer in the market. He spent millions in advertisement, which made him only start profiting in after several years of operation. Who spends millions and years to get big, just to close up and start operating under a different name? That doesn’t make any sense.

Maybe because Bitmixer was operating in let's say Estonia, and the operators were known/could be tied to the hosting of the service (through payment data for hosting, or logged ip's, domain who.is info, god knows what), whereas a new service could've been hosted somewhere offshore with this in mind, making no connection at all with the real operators.

I think this is also the reason why bitblender is shutting down, he probably didn't cover his tracks properly. I don't think it's odd at all to think he'll rehost a service under a different brand name that has no ties to him (or ties that could be made to him), since the profit v risk would then be enormous.

If the previous service owns by someone make do profits but didnt cover up his tracks with having a potential on facing up legal issues later on,he would
really have that kind of voluntary stopping of its service.They know that they are sacrificing their business but having problems between the government
is really pain in the a**.

Either ways,if they tend to make a new mixer then its dumb for them to connect their identity to newer mixing site since they do know the risk when the older
ones faced up some previous issues. Mixing sites is quite on demand, so creating one is still good business but this time you should know on how to get yourself safe on
governments eyes.

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Quote from: TryNinja on May 30, 2019, 09:46:06 PM

Quote from: Thirdspace on May 30, 2019, 06:53:43 PM

How can you tell if the next new mixer isn't created by the same person/team
if he starts over completely with no resemblance to the old mixer, you can't really tell, can you?
new bct username, new hosting, new domain, different mix technique, etc to show no connection
we, people, humans, tend to be greedy by nature Grin

we want more than what we already have

If he was greed, he would keep going under BitMixer’s name. It was probably the most trusted and most famous mixer in the market. He spent millions in advertisement, which made him only start profiting in after several years of operation. Who spends millions and years to get big, just to close up and start operating under a different name? That doesn’t make any sense.

Maybe because Bitmixer was operating in let's say Estonia, and the operators were known/could be tied to the hosting of the service (through payment data for hosting, or logged ip's, domain who.is info, god knows what), whereas a new service could've been hosted somewhere offshore with this in mind, making no connection at all with the real operators.

I think this is also the reason why bitblender is shutting down, he probably didn't cover his tracks properly. I don't think it's odd at all to think he'll rehost a service under a different brand name that has no ties to him (or ties that could be made to him), since the profit v risk would then be enormous.

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Quote from: Thirdspace on May 30, 2019, 06:53:43 PM

How can you tell if the next new mixer isn't created by the same person/team
if he starts over completely with no resemblance to the old mixer, you can't really tell, can you?
new bct username, new hosting, new domain, different mix technique, etc to show no connection
we, people, humans, tend to be greedy by nature Grin

we want more than what we already have

If he was greed, he would keep going under BitMixer’s name. It was probably the most trusted and most famous mixer in the market. He spent millions in advertisement, which made him only start profiting in after several years of operation. Who spends millions and years to get big, just to close up and start operating under a different name? That doesn’t make any sense.

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Quote from: gentlemand on May 27, 2019, 07:31:50 PM

Quote from: Thirdspace on May 27, 2019, 07:28:37 PM

though I'm pretty sure they will respawn with different name, location and mixing technique

Bitmixer.io never made another appearance. Why would you risk it? Anyone running one of these must've done OK. I'd leave with the money and never return. As a concept centralised mixing may be coming to a permanent end.

How can you tell if the next new mixer isn't created by the same person/team
if he starts over completely with no resemblance to the old mixer, you can't really tell, can you?
new bct username, new hosting, new domain, different mix technique, etc to show no connection
we, people, humans, tend to be greedy by nature Grin

we want more than what we already have

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