Topic: 🚩 Bitcasino.io – the FUN, FAST and FAIR gaming experience! 🚩 - page 63. (Read 196393 times)

Please response to Trayber I also feel that VIP program is not revarding enough maybe you should change lines to entry it and also change gift picking points need -> I asked how many points is needed to pick one gift I'd like ( I though it will be between 300kk-500kk ) and I got response that I need
 2 000kk what the f**k?! Nobody going to wager like 2000BTC to get few dollars thing :O

Do you know if there's any site that has a list of provably fair and not provably fair sites?
I don't mean these pay per review or affiliate whoring websites.

Maybe that would be worth having especially if it could be done by someone who knows their SEO and get it highly ranked in search engines.

If anyone was interested in putting this together I would be happy to host for free if you needed hosting.

This is a good question, I also notice this issue, and wanna know which license is in use now. 

Sometimes I feel that joksim299 is writing in this thread even more than me, luckily we are not yet blamed in eating kids. BUT I'm happy to answer why we changed our license:

License was changed due to the fact that we wanted to increase experience of our players and switch on games from best providers in the World (such as NetEnt and Quickfire), unfortunately with previous license it was impossible. As you probably saw, some bitcoin casinos lost this right just yesterday, because of some issues re their licenses. And unfortunately it is impossible to switch provably fair technology to these games, to poker (while it is not our software) and blackjack (while it is also not our software).   

I can just tell that if we will start developing own games, we definitely use this technology. But for now it is impossible.

They deserve negative trust rating.
I have one more question regardin licence. You were licensed in Curacao few months ago now you are licensed in Montenegro where do you operate from?

They would find relevant information; they would find your lies: "bitcoino.io is provably fair". They probably wouldn't know enough to realise that it was a lie or to expose your lies since it seems that for most "provably fair" is a security blanket. They trust that others will have vetted the provable fairness and brought to light any deception or cheating. That's what I aim to do.

But those games in fiat casinos are regulated and machines come with certificate that is the difference.
You developed your own poker(6% rake + dealing cards in order to maximize revenue) and not provably fair blackjack(https://bitcasino.io/casino/blackjack/Bitcoin-Blackjack) without any certificate or warranty.
And you do not even try the game before it is avaliable for play.

When can we get some better comps from casino for being a loyal customer?

The vip lottery is nice prize but you have to get the correct numbers out of 36 not exactly easy to do.

Other than that the 25% vip bonus sucks. It also comes with 35x wagering which makes it not a good deal. It was better to use when it was 50%.

So really being VIP at casino means nothing.

Staff is wonderful here but really need to treat the loyal players better.

And LOL this VIP gift I picked out months ago is costing thousands.

I think so, there are some provably fair slots, but those are very ugly and no fun at all. To me, I trust those slots of famous providers like betsoft, microgaming. Although they are not provably fair, they are still reliable, and all of famous fiat casinos have those slots. They can't be cheated.

Repunza, already asked you few times - can you please put links to youtube in this thread?

speaking about provably fair once again - of course we are not against it, but we are not developing own games, we are just using popular casino providers in the World. You can find same games on almost all major fiat casinos.

Finally someone is starting to get it. Yes these live games are rigged. They can manipulate the results. Go on Youtube their are videos showing live games being manipulated. The cards can be made to appear other then what they really are thru their feed and holograms...

I would agree here just even for a site to say it is provably fair casino has no meaning to it. I have been on loads of sites that say this you win many times with free bets or free bonus money. When using own funds you get shafted so hard and the ratio on bets to win/loss ratio is overall banker winning each time. Some have been really good to begin with like say depositing and playing with 0.5BTC making 3x it back take out the winnings so back to 0.5 and that gets maybe double again, then loss streak kicks in. Seems little odd for massive streak to going massive loss or few loss more win then lots of losses and deposit some more back in and again more losses.

I do play on a lot of casinos. Bitcasino being one of them but as of late I not played as much as I use to due to the amount of times lost on hands and power banker always having solid hands iver 18s or better and on flop always getting 16s 17s or 12s and then hitting on 12s bust standing and bank wins. Might be just hands dealt but been on other sites I can generally walk away better off than started and playing small amounts and going though a bunch of hands. Call it luck of the draw but sometimes I really do think at times its rigged. In a few days I will be playing on Bitcasino again to see about the fruit machines as sometimes do play good so many I will have better luck on them.

When I have some cash I will try it for sure

I still can not understand why people play at non provably fair casino when games may be rigged or just few of them. Licensed does not change anything when licence does not give us any type of guarantee of games integrity and minimal payout percentage with this type of licence.
How it can be misstake when you said you wrote that article for purpose?

I personally think that visitor who will come to bitcasino from keyword "provably fair" and won't find relevant information, should be disappointed and won't come back to us. It is simple logic, so I'm once again thankful that someone found this mistake and showed to us. We don't need misunderstanding and disappointed users. We have 100+ keywords in ranking, separate SEO team and sometimes it is hard to see such details.

As you said yourself, that page was for SEO purposes, not for players to read.

What that means is that the page's purpose was so that when people did a Google search for "provably fair casino" they would end up at your casino even though it is not provably fair.

Doesn't that seem like a deceptive practice? You have been caught lying about the provable fairness of your games and when challenged about it your defence boils down to "oh, we weren't lying directly to players, we were lying to the search engines so they could lie to players for us; that's better, right guys?"

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Here is contract http://www.upravazaigrenasrecu.me/1/images/Ugovori/Internet/Egambling.pdf

Minimal payout percentage for online gambling sites licenced in Montenegro is not prescribed by law or I was not able to find it.
http://www.mf.gov.me/ResourceManager/FileDownload.aspx?rid=153784&rType=2&file=Zakon%20o%20igrama%20na%20srecu.pdf

Novomatic games were on site in time when I played at Bitcasino , links are still alive but games are not. Why you took them offline?

Are you sure about 2.4m visits this year? If you exclude US traffic you had roughly 600k visits

any other famous fiat casinos have license of Montenegro? How much did you spend on the license? I never heard this license before and it is not a famous license in gambling world.

joksim299, fortunately this page was visited just about 40 times for 2015 year, so compering with total amount of 2.5m visits of bitcasino.io during this year, that had no influence on our players. But thanks for the feedback, our seo managers received a good message.

Regarding links what you found - sounds like you just googled everything As you can see there are no games via these links, so I'm not sure where is an issue. We had these games previously, they are not active for significant amount of months and players can't find them on our site. I guess google just indexed these pages when they were active.

And you are more than welcome to visit the offices of our company in Montenegro where we are licensed at NJEGOŠEVA BR. 97, Cetinje, Montenegro. Further you can make direct contact with our gaming regulator to check the validity and integrity of our operation: https://e-gambling.me/contact

www.bitcasino.io is regulated and licensed by the government of Montenegro.

E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. (Podgorica, Moskovska br. 65., reg. no. 5-0615951) hereby certifies that under the concession (serial no. AA 001588, numeric no. 133-01/15 4A and 1ER) and approval (no. 02/01-118/4), organize and operate games on chance in Montenegro on website www.bitcasino.io, in accordance with the Agreement on management and financial cooperation, concluded between E Gambling Montenegro d.o.o. and KOPIKAS ENTERPRISES d.o.o. (Cetinje, Njegoseva br. 97, reg. no. 50714123, TIN: 03022242) on 06 January, 2015.

More details about the license, E-Gambling Montenegro and handling of complaints: e-gambling.me

Do you even need to ask before checking it? ofcourse not.