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Topic: Bitcoin - a financial pyramid: true or myth? - page 3. (Read 609 times)

newbie
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Having a product or something like that is a significant difference. Speaking of bitcoin, it is difficult to draw any conclusions. Not so simple.

But definitely, can't be considered as a financial pyramid by definition. You can invest anytime you what, and you don't need to market it by any sense. And its up to you how much money you going to put up. And no single person is benefiting if you are going to trade (buy/sell). The appropriate term should be "investment portfolio", in my opinion. Because the moment you buy, you hold that assets, which in this case bitcoin. And you have total control of it + privatekey in your wallet.

Exactly, there's always a way out. And it won't collapse under your feet when you're least expecting it. Maybe some Altcoins could be considered as ponzi/pyramid schemes because the owners just pull out their investment when the little people like you and I are least expecting it. Telegram groups close, exchanges reject the coin, people just disappear into thin air. That, by definition is a pyramid scheme. Bitcoin is just an investment opportunity for your portfolio, and a good one at that.
legendary
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Having a product or something like that is a significant difference. Speaking of bitcoin, it is difficult to draw any conclusions. Not so simple.

But definitely, can't be considered as a financial pyramid by definition. You can invest anytime you what, and you don't need to market it by any sense. And its up to you how much money you going to put up. And no single person is benefiting if you are going to trade (buy/sell). The appropriate term should be "investment portfolio", in my opinion. Because the moment you buy, you hold that assets, which in this case bitcoin. And you have total control of it + privatekey in your wallet.
member
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Having a product or something like that is a significant difference. Speaking of bitcoin, it is difficult to draw any conclusions. Not so simple.
newbie
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This is hardly a pyramid, because when bitcoin has reached a high point the market has not collapsed and is still holding, although not already in such positions as before.
legendary
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Given all of the above, I can conclude that bitcoin does not fall under the definition of the financial pyramid.

What do u think about what do you think about my thoughts? Do u agree that bitcoin is not a financial pyramid?

Let's define what a Pyramid Scheme is:

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The Scheme
As its name indicates, the pyramid scheme is structured like a pyramid. It typically starts with one person – the initial recruiter – who is on top at the apex of the pyramid. This person recruits a second who is required to "invest" a certain amount, which is paid to the initial recruiter. In order to make his or her money back, the new recruit must recruit more people under him or her, each of whom will also have to invest. If the recruit gets 10 more people to invest, he or she will make a profit with just a small investment.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/04/042104.asp

So basically there's someone always on top of you ,at the apex and your down line is the one working for you to make money by recruiting others to join the scheme. So with that basic definition, we can't call bitcoin a financial pyramid because we don't need to such things (recruiting more people in order for you to get financial gains). The "Bitcoin is Pyramid" steam from the media who portrays crypto in general as a big Pyramiding Scheme but at a closer inspection, its not. So its stuck with us up to this day and even how hard we try to explain to others they are already blind because others really believed what they hear or read.

hero member
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If we talk about crypto-currencies in general, it will be more correct to immediately split bitcoin and all other crypto-currencies, the so-called altcoyins.

So, it can not be denied that many ICOs today are forms of financial pyramids.

However, this does not mean that absolutely all alternative crypto-currencies are a fraud. Some altcoyins have a very clear and transparent pricing model. And in fact today, in my opinion, such crypto-currencies as Ether, Dash, Ripple, Litecoin, NEM, Monero and others really create value, and their price is due not only to pure speculation.

As for bitcoin, the fantastic increase in its value in recent times, of course, does not cease to excite the minds of critics, but in reality it's quite simple with him.

The first and most obvious difference between bitcoin and the financial pyramid is that there is no central beneficiary. Theoretically, of course, there are very old wallets with a very large number of bitcoins, which in some sense can be considered such a beneficiary. However, there was no official central beneficiary, and without its presence the pyramid does not make sense.

The second important difference is in bitcoin with the growth of the user base and with the growth of downloaded money, the value grows, because in any economic system this value is directly related to the number of participants in this system. Moreover, given the fact that the volume of the economy is always proportional to the square of the number of participants, and not to the number itself, the value of bitcoin grows much faster than the user base grows, and it is not necessary to talk about inflating a bubble.

And, at last, one more factor is that at bitcoin there are no obligations to anyone. That is, bitcoin never promised anything to anyone, so bitcoin as a pyramid, in general, can not collapse. Bitcoin is only a financial protocol for making, validating and storing information about transactions among network members. The bitcoin code is publicly available, each participant can explore the logic of the entire network, and some participants can not just grab the bitcoins of other participants.

Given all of the above, I can conclude that bitcoin does not fall under the definition of the financial pyramid.

What do u think about what do you think about my thoughts? Do u agree that bitcoin is not a financial pyramid?
Well, most things in this world are kind of pyramid, when person is gaining from this particular thing, there is a different person that is losing. Unless we are talking anything that has to do with selling a product for money, in this situation both parties will be very much satisfied. But as for things like this, the money is kind of rotating and old guys are ripping off the new guys.

That’s how it is, even forex trading is in the same way. When you’re trading there are also other people that are trading and if you lose and they win, then part of yore money goes to them and the other remaining goes to the platform.
member
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Of course bitcoin is not a financial pyramid. He simply does not fall under the definition of such.
Around the financial pyramids is not built infrastructure. Blockchain and crypto currencies are already a serious financial area, so you can talk about them as a pyramid.
full member
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Bitcoin is not a pyramid.But nowadays,so many people do  scam things using bitcoin. Those are the killers of Bitcoin future  Angry
newbie
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Let me tell you a story when I tried to explain to people that bitcoin is not a pyramid.
It was in 2013-2014, when I first got acquainted with bitcoin. All my friends said that bitcoin is an ordinary pyramid and it will soon burst. But as we can see, 10 years have passed since the creation of bitcoin. Those who are not afraid and they risked to invest their money in" this pyramid " and now feel very good.

You had a good view dude, not only I but everyone around me know BTC, but we don't care. May be hard real life made us enough for thinking of this kind of asset.
sr. member
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Ponzi scheme or pyramid - a form of investment fraud, which includes the payment of expected profits to existing investors from the funds collected from new investors. Organizers of the Ponzi scheme often attract new investors by promises to invest the collected funds in projects with a high return on investment and minimal risk. In many Ponzi schemes, instead of full-fledged investment, scammers are engaged in attracting new funds through which they will make promised payments to early investors and assign a portion of these funds for personal use.
The pyramid vanishs, because it becomes unprofitable to the beneficiary.
Bitcoin does not fall under the definition of the financial pyramid. This is, in fact, a form of digital currency that is used by network participants, and the number of virtual wallets for its storage today already exceeds 11 million worldwide. There are many factors that form the price of the currency, but one of the main is the volume of demand for the currency and the number of users it is of currency. Therefore, it is quite natural that with the expansion of the user network, the bitcoin price continues to grow. This is natural for any currency, and bitcoin should not be considered a particularly suspicious anomaly.
full member
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Let me tell you a story when I tried to explain to people that bitcoin is not a pyramid.
It was in 2013-2014, when I first got acquainted with bitcoin. All my friends said that bitcoin is an ordinary pyramid and it will soon burst. But as we can see, 10 years have passed since the creation of bitcoin. Those who are not afraid and they risked to invest their money in" this pyramid " and now feel very good.
newbie
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myth 100% lol
sr. member
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In my opinion, its not a financial pyramid. It is a financial asset an innovative kind of payment network form of electronic cash. It cannot be a pyramid because transactions is peer -to-peer.

By definition, pyramiding scheme means people who get in first would be paid by the money given by the latest joiners so if you think about it, bitcoin is not a pyramid because people are trading so that they can gain from it. Maybe those HYIP sites are pyramiding scheme but if you are talking about bitcoin in general and about how its price increase or decrease due to law of supply and demand then it is not a pyramid scheme so in short it is just a myth.
member
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In my opinion, its not a financial pyramid. It is a financial asset an innovative kind of payment network form of electronic cash. It cannot be a pyramid because transactions is peer -to-peer.
member
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I think that's a myth becouse , those people who study that topic can clearly say that whole cryptocurrency and also whole blockchain technology is very usefull for all humanity!
newbie
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Bitcoin is no pyramid but a decentralized digital currency.
It has no relationship with pyramids/ponzi or whatever but it can be used as a tool just like our conventional fiat in duping people real big. 
newbie
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The decentralized nature of bitcoin makes it impossible to by a pyramid scam. However, it could be one of the most well orchestrated guerrilla marketing stunts in history.

Guerrilla marketing is when the person trying to sell the product goes undercover as a user and then tells people that they should buy it. So in the case of bitcoin, maybe a bunch of people got together, created a concept, filled their wallets with the coins at a dollar a pop, and then set off to work. They spread the hype around the internet and after several months/years of hard work, boom! It took off. It's not hard to imagine, and it's not necessarily a scam, because they weren't deliberately taking money from anyone.
newbie
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Bitcoin will not be a pryamid scam as it is being held by many people as opposed by one company or person which is why many users of it are in favor is decentralization at it provide power to the users and not in one institution the only disadvantage of it is that its prices cannot be controlled as it is dependent on the users unlike fiat where the government and its financial market are in control. And for the altcoin or ICO scams it can be debatable as there are many people who really want to scam investors using cryptocurrency much like in real world financial scammers.
copper member
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A financial pyramid is a structure that pays dividends at the expense of newly arrived investors. In bitcoin, no dividends are paid. Due to the demand and the limited number of coins, its price can grow or fall very much.
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
It is obviously not a pyramid. Transactions are between the two parties and nobody else. Amway is a pyramid and when a sale is made many people get a cut. Anyone who thinks this applies to bitcoin does not understand what a pyramid scheme is. So here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
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