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Quote from: qwertyup23 on January 17, 2023, 05:25:36 PM

There is one downside, however, that these computer-generated AI images extend not only to Bitcoin but also to real-life images as well. I remember that this website https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/en generates thousands of new faces that are currently being used by some ANN threads on their team member page.

Wow, so is this site the origin of the photographs used by altcoins' teams when launching their tokens? That always looked shady to me, but I never imagined those could be AI generated photos of fake people.

I'm testing it right now and the results really pass the same professionalism impression from those images posted in ANN threads. I could say many of the results presented are actually from real CEOs, marketing and Blockchain specialists. Cheesy

Appearances can be really deceiving. Wink

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Quote from: franky1 on January 05, 2023, 08:48:46 PM

those are some pretty good AI renders.
previous generation AI images badly cropped,layered and merged pictures together where you can see the blurred layering and such

AI has come long way in last couple years.
im impressed by the quality of these results

This is definitely true! The quality, the lights, the atmosphere and the overall aesthetic is just simply sublime with these computer-generated AI images. Imagine, since these were created in just one website, the potential of businesses using this as their promotional pictures/videos would definitely entice people to spark their curiosity on checking out cryptocurrencies.

There is one downside, however, that these computer-generated AI images extend not only to Bitcoin but also to real-life images as well. I remember that this website https://this-person-does-not-exist.com/en generates thousands of new faces that are currently being used by some ANN threads on their team member page.

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Quote from: uneng on January 17, 2023, 04:39:15 PM

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No, I'm not selling it. I just create the images for fun and to illustrate posts about Bitcoin, somehow it works like a BTC advertisement. Some people already thought about earning money selling those generated images and launching NFT collections, but I'm not sure if others would have interest on it, since they can acquire the AI and start creating images by themselves. Copyright might be another issue, since we don't own those images as our properties, as far as I know. Anyone browsing on Discord MJ's channels can get an image you created for themselves and use it as they wish.

Everyone can make a sandwich, yet the sandwich industry is alive and well.

I think there's already a market for AI generated images. If not, there will soon be. And the cool thing is that it can be much faster than the iterative process we currently have with artists.

You could just post a topic and receive images that match it, then you select whichever you want to pay for. Done.

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Wow, this is amazing, did you start selling it? Do you think it would be better to create NFT or to advertise BTC with those pictures?

No, I'm not selling it. I just create the images for fun and to illustrate posts about Bitcoin, somehow it works like a BTC advertisement. Some people already thought about earning money selling those generated images and launching NFT collections, but I'm not sure if others would have interest on it, since they can acquire the AI and start creating images by themselves. Copyright might be another issue, since we don't own those images as our properties, as far as I know. Anyone browsing on Discord MJ's channels can get an image you created for themselves and use it as they wish.

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Behold, one of my AI-generated masterpieces. The level of precision, accuracy and efficiency demonstrated by the AI system is nothing short of remarkable.

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Quote from: Minecache on January 14, 2023, 09:27:14 PM

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I have to admit that AI is really growing rapidly, I haven't thought about it being able to actually decrypt bitcoin's private key, but it is really replacing humans in many areas. It is both worrisome and gratifying at the same time to see this development. The more technology develops, the more benefits it will bring to people, but at the same time, it will also take away a lot of people's jobs. As for whether AI can figure out bitcoin's private key, it's a question that should be taken care of, anything is possible.

Those two things are very different.

A private key is a specific, unique series of symbols, from a vast set of combinations.

A generated image from text, although impressive, is way simpler to obtain that the private key, in terms of probabilities.

Think about it, given a single image, you could generate millions of images that look basically the same to the human eye but are represented by different raw numbers (each pixel is usually encoded by 3 eight-bit numbers). JPG compression is based on this concept, they can represent an image with another image that looks the same to a human, using way less information.

Then, you have the semantics. "A picture of a cat" has virtually an infinite number of outputs. You can have a close-up, another farther away, different colors or types of cats, etc. The interpretation of the prompt will basically generate an infinite amount of valid outputs.

And so on...

On the other hand, a private key is unique and even if it's one bit off, it simply won't work at all.

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Quote from: Kryptowerk on January 15, 2023, 08:24:21 AM

- As you cannot directly influence the composition of these images (at least with MJ) but only indirectly by tweeking some parameters and adjusting your prompt, it usually took between 5 - 25 tries (renders) to come close to what I had in mind. Sometimes it also seemed impossible to really get there

Sometimes I just give up when I see the AI isn't understanding what I mean. But I still try changing one word or another on the prompt before. I've never gone too far like 25 renders. I usually go until 4-5 attempts, although many of the results in OP were achieved in one try.

Quote from: Kryptowerk on January 15, 2023, 08:24:21 AM

- Rendertimes depend a lot on activity, servers were often overwhelmed so you would wait between maybe 15 seconds to 10 minutes just for one image

Here it always render pretty fast. I think I've never waited more than 3 minutes. It worths mentioning there is something called "fast" mode. By acquiring the subscription you have 15 hours of renders on this mode. After that, your prompts join a kind of row, where you have to wait other people's renders (in fast mode) to complete first, until you finish yours.

Quote from: Kryptowerk on January 15, 2023, 08:24:21 AM

- it's a lot of trial and error but also needs some knowledge on advanced parameters to get to the desired result. Back then there were already some decent guides and a good discussion forum, so you should be able to find a lot

You can ask any doubts in Discord MJ server itself. There is a specific channel for this kind of doubt and people there are very helpful.

Quote from: Kryptowerk on January 15, 2023, 08:24:21 AM

- imho postwork (in PS, or Gimp etc) is necessary almost always if you want to use these images in a professional context

Yes, as you can see my Neanderthal on the last image has 6 fingers. Still realistic, but MJ doesn't know counting fingers with precision. Cheesy

Quote from: Kryptowerk on January 15, 2023, 08:24:21 AM

- don't expect to get too much done with the free version, 25 renders are gone in no-time

Indeed, a subscription is a must. Paid 30$ on the second tier for a month.

Added to the personal experience of @Kryptowerk, I also wrote mine. I hope it clears your doubts out, @kryptqnick.

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Quote from: Hispo on January 14, 2023, 08:39:50 PM

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Maybe those traditional artist can try upgrading and try doing digital arts because this can be the future. If not then they are free to find a new career. I just do not say that the pictures shared by the OP are all nice. This wasn't the first time I saw this but there is a one thread here last time who upload almost the same pictures. It seems that we are now being invaded by the AI but I still prefer those good old drawings tbh.

I have read and even seen videos of people on Youtube comparing the implementation of artificial intelligence to art to the invention of the camera, long time ago.
Their point of view is that cameras obviously did not replace artist but rather made artists not to focus too much on painting things in the real world, since people started to take pictures of politicians, cities, urban spaces, etc.

Allegedly, this pushed artist to explore new styles and draw more fantastical and surrealistic things which are only to be found within the imagination.
I am not sure how comparable was that invention of the camera to the artificial intelligence.

What do you think, do you believe it is a fair point what those people say?

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Quote from: Hispo on January 14, 2023, 08:39:50 PM

As a hobbyist artist, I must say I have got mixed feelings about artificial intelligence and art.
On one hand, I believe it is cool how the technology has advanced to the point a program can understand the concept behind an artistic piece, this was science fiction not long ago. On the other hand, I am afraid this could negatively impact my fellow professional artists, who already struggle to make a living out their passion...

Anyways, cool pictures. OP.

I would say that the technology have slowly killed the living of many people. Usually, those who are not related online/digital but in exchange of it, it is that many opportunities have also opened up but only to those who have a knowledge on online/digital.

Maybe those traditional artist can try upgrading and try doing digital arts because this can be the future. If not then they are free to find a new career. I just do not say that the pictures shared by the OP are all nice. This wasn't the first time I saw this but there is a one thread here last time who upload almost the same pictures. It seems that we are now being invaded by the AI but I still prefer those good old drawings tbh.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 15, 2023, 04:25:33 AM

I just want to say that op's images are amazing. My Internet connection is very weak right now, but I think I'll try playing with AI later. I tried it before with some online services where you could also give prompts and choose styles, but the images, while sort of beautiful, were often too bizarre, usually because of objects not being fully there, faces and bodied generally being muffled or overstretched, etc. Yours are much better. I'd love to hear more about these results. Like, how many tries does it take to make a good image, or how many minutes/hours it took to get all the images in the original post? I see you've mentioned a free trial of 25 images, but also that you've purchased a subscription.

I can only say what I experienced about 3 months ago. Things are changing very quickly, so take it with a grain of "probably already different".
- As you cannot directly influence the composition of these images (at least with MJ) but only indirectly by tweeking some parameters and adjusting your prompt, it usually took between 5 - 25 tries (renders) to come close to what I had in mind. Sometimes it also seemed impossible to really get there
- Rendertimes depend a lot on activity, servers were often overwhelmed so you would wait between maybe 15 seconds to 10 minutes just for one image
- it's a lot of trial and error but also needs some knowledge on advanced parameters to get to the desired result. Back then there were already some decent guides and a good discussion forum, so you should be able to find a lot
- imho postwork (in PS, or Gimp etc) is necessary almost always if you want to use these images in a professional context
- don't expect to get too much done with the free version, 25 renders are gone in no-time
- have fun

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I just want to say that op's images are amazing. My Internet connection is very weak right now, but I think I'll try playing with AI later. I tried it before with some online services where you could also give prompts and choose styles, but the images, while sort of beautiful, were often too bizarre, usually because of objects not being fully there, faces and bodied generally being muffled or overstretched, etc. Yours are much better. I'd love to hear more about these results. Like, how many tries does it take to make a good image, or how many minutes/hours it took to get all the images in the original post? I see you've mentioned a free trial of 25 images, but also that you've purchased a subscription.

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Quote from: dansus021 on January 10, 2023, 09:48:24 PM

Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy

But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI

Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!

That is what people say about the risk of quantum computers for bitcoin.

I believe all hackers would have to do is to discover the 12 secret words, and their respective sequence, from 2048 available words.

However, it must be a very powerful and fast program to find the correct solution in an acceptable time period, as there is an insane number of different possible combinations. At some point AIs might become a threat on this matter, but I guess it's too far from happening yet.

I have to admit that AI is really growing rapidly, I haven't thought about it being able to actually decrypt bitcoin's private key, but it is really replacing humans in many areas. It is both worrisome and gratifying at the same time to see this development. The more technology develops, the more benefits it will bring to people, but at the same time, it will also take away a lot of people's jobs. As for whether AI can figure out bitcoin's private key, it's a question that should be taken care of, anything is possible.

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As a hobbyist artist, I must say I have got mixed feelings about artificial intelligence and art.
On one hand, I believe it is cool how the technology has advanced to the point a program can understand the concept behind an artistic piece, this was science fiction not long ago. On the other hand, I am afraid this could negatively impact my fellow professional artists, who already struggle to make a living out their passion...

Anyways, cool pictures. OP.

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Quote from: uneng on January 14, 2023, 12:37:01 PM

Quote from: hZti on January 12, 2023, 06:30:50 AM

Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!

That is what people say about the risk of quantum computers for bitcoin.

I believe all hackers would have to do is to discover the 12 secret words, and their respective sequence, from 2048 available words.

However, it must be a very powerful and fast program to find the correct solution in an acceptable time period, as there is an insane number of different possible combinations. At some point AIs might become a threat on this matter, but I guess it's too far from happening yet.

Well maybe this can be possible if AI has the brain of a quantum computer Roll Eyes

but we are totally doomed since they might predict everything Grin

but before that maybe bitcoin cryptography change too.

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Quote from: dansus021 on January 10, 2023, 09:48:24 PM

Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy

But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI

Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!

That is what people say about the risk of quantum computers for bitcoin.

I believe all hackers would have to do is to discover the 12 secret words, and their respective sequence, from 2048 available words.

However, it must be a very powerful and fast program to find the correct solution in an acceptable time period, as there is an insane number of different possible combinations. At some point AIs might become a threat on this matter, but I guess it's too far from happening yet.

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Quote from: dansus021 on January 10, 2023, 09:48:24 PM

Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy

But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI

Well lets see how long it will take for an AI to take on the bitcoin cryptography. If it is possible to find private keys, then yes we actually will be doomed!

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Quote from: dansus021 on January 10, 2023, 09:48:24 PM

Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy

But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI

If you would actually read anything in this thread you'd notice most was soley done by AI indeed, some other pictures were slightly post-edited.
There is such thing as an obviously AI-generated-image anymore. Some are, yes, but in the right hands I bet you would not be able to tell which is which.
AI is not getting smart, it's still very dumb actually. Just read some discussions about chatgpt. That being said, these "AI-apps" are great tools for producers of any kind and are already taken off a ton of workload from real humans.

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Like it or not AI is getting smarter day by day, maybe we are gonna doomed by the AI like some movies said Cheesy

But it is good pictures to can be wallpaper on a phone or computer, are those really generated 100% by AI

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on January 08, 2023, 01:42:25 PM

These AI "art" generators make the work of low quality crypto news sites really simple, now they don't have to hire artist to draw a physical bitcoin for 1000th time, they can have AI do it in seconds for free. Maybe some of these news sites would even use AI to write articles, I'm sure the quality won't suffer because it's all nonsense either way.

The quality of AI art is impressive, but still it's nothing more than copying of existing human art, it lacks originality, it lacks concepts. It's only good for creating boring and forgettable illustrations for cheap products.

they already are. peole use gpt-3 for article content from 2022 already, as for quality all depend on setup and seting you can honestly creat high quality article wit hai.
as for ai art, in the first palce what you mean orignality? concept can be created by you when prompt the generated image,

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Quote from: tjtonmoy on January 09, 2023, 06:06:52 PM

I would say it's 85% match to my actual face. And the AI did a great job turning my ugly face to this. The facial features are there but slightly changed in order to match the prompt I guess.

Very good, well done!

Updated OP with more AI generated Bitcoin images. I didn't resist and purchased the monthly subscription to continue doing more experiments while trying to improve the final quality of the images. Wink

I hope you like the new images!

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