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newbie
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September 08, 2018, 11:11:11 AM
#41
I don't really agree with declaring our crypto assets because I know that some governments would tend to manipulate it. The idea of bitcoin is having a decentralized transactions, and that's what we deserve to preserve.
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1206
September 08, 2018, 04:13:18 AM
#40
Yes of course it seems to me that in the aftermath of the adoption of crypto currency, it is inevitable that we will pay some taxes from it
tax will only apply to countries that do adopt bitcoin because the state also benefits from crypto or bitcoin, but what about countries that do not legalize bitcoin? Will it be taxed by bitcoin or not?
Legalization of bitcoin is hard to implement in a country, just like here in my country government did not implement any law that state the bitcoin to pay tax. Bitcoin taxation is not directly applied on the bitcoin it may only cause on the holders per transaction that have.
But for me, paying tax is just a little amount that you contribute in paying by your government in order to improve or have an economic growth. So, I don't hesitate my self to pay if ever we required or oblique to pay taxes.
member
Activity: 420
Merit: 34
September 08, 2018, 03:21:27 AM
#39
The tax is not on bitcoin. Income tax (sic!) from bitcoin transactions.
There are property taxes - on real estate, cars, etc. And there are income taxes. If there is no income from bitcoin transactions, then there is no need to pay tax. In the conditions of the fall of the rate, most likely the majority has such a situation.
A citizen shall submit a tax return. If the tax service has any doubts, it will be able to check its correctness. Anonymity and untraceable transactions turned out to be a myth. Besides, you can't buy anything with bitcoin. Except exotic (pizza) and criminal case. Therefore, the change bitcoin to Fiat currency, which is credited to the Bank account. And it's very easy to track.
newbie
Activity: 154
Merit: 0
September 08, 2018, 01:52:54 AM
#38
Yes of course it seems to me that in the aftermath of the adoption of crypto currency, it is inevitable that we will pay some taxes from it
tax will only apply to countries that do adopt bitcoin because the state also benefits from crypto or bitcoin, but what about countries that do not legalize bitcoin? Will it be taxed by bitcoin or not?
newbie
Activity: 58
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September 07, 2018, 09:34:51 AM
#37
Taxes are great for a country. It helps with services for both the rich and poor and anyone in between. But most countries do not use their rights with taxes properly and abuse the system. This is why I really hate the tax systems. I do like the fact that bitcoin isn't taxed.
sr. member
Activity: 2044
Merit: 314
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September 07, 2018, 09:25:12 AM
#36
Bitcoin is not for evading taxes as such type not intention is not good. Taxes are important for the development of any economy. Moreover taxes will make the bitcoin reliable and so we should not use for evading tax. Bitcoin should not be tax free
Taxes is good only if the government will use it in a right way but since many corrupt politicians people are afraid to pay their taxes. I think governmetn will be having a hard time monitoring your bitcoin holdings, because they cannot control this so its really up to you if you will declare it.
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
September 07, 2018, 07:11:47 AM
#35
Bitcoin and Taxes. Well, of course, this is something complex, where most users consider taxation on bitcoin to be against the goal of creation Bitcoin.

I think this will be a long debate, considering that most users are interested in Bitcoin because they hope it is completely tax-free.
newbie
Activity: 19
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September 07, 2018, 04:53:51 AM
#34
Bitcoin can make incomes for people, so it needs taxes. Moreover, Bitcoin was trading quite spread in some countries all around the world. With the develop of the cryptocurrency now, sooner, BItcoin will be taken taxes. That is inevitable.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
September 07, 2018, 04:51:56 AM
#33
All of  us know that Bitcoin is decentralized and no having third side. Thus, it is not necessary to need taxes here. Besides, Bitcoin is not accepted in many countries. Briefly,  no tax in Bitcoin makes inventors earn more from Bitcoin
full member
Activity: 1316
Merit: 108
September 06, 2018, 11:53:57 PM
#32
We know that the attitude of states towards the decentralized crypto currency is mostly more negative than friendly. States will always dislike the fact that they can not fully control the decentralized crypto currency. In order for the crypto currency to penetrate into our life and develop further, it is necessary for the state to legalize it, that is, it determines the status of the crypto currency, its conditions of circulation in the society and determined its taxation. Thus, in order for the state to recognize the Crypto currency, we will have to pay tax on profits for its use. If we do not do this, the state can limit the circulation or even prohibit its circulation inside the country. I do not think that paying taxes on profits for the use of crypto-currency is contrary to Satoshi Nakamoto's vision or, in general, to the principles of its existence.
sr. member
Activity: 2422
Merit: 357
September 06, 2018, 10:24:46 PM
#31
The problem with this is that bitcoin is decentralized and you are anonymous in it but you cannot hide all your money forever. There would be a time that you will withdraw it and all of us will do that in the future. You need to have third party like exchanges or banks in order to encash or transpose all your earnings if you need them. The government will go in this time and do their part whether it can be taxed or not.
member
Activity: 133
Merit: 10
September 06, 2018, 04:00:22 PM
#31
Tax on Bitcoin, Well, I personally think this defeat the purpose of the invention of Bitcoin.

However, on the one hand, today Bitcoin or another cryptocurrency is under the IRS radar, where the IRS requires tax for bitcoin, there is no choice but to comply, and if it does not pay taxes, it can have consequences.
newbie
Activity: 108
Merit: 0
September 06, 2018, 11:05:55 AM
#30
People should choose, pay taxes or not for bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 1806
Merit: 672
September 06, 2018, 11:00:26 AM
#29
Even though if the IRS classified it as a property it doesn't mean it gets exempted to being taxed, remember that even properties such as land is subject to tax. This taxes includes real estate tax and most commonly is the capital gains tax. Just like stocks they are classified as property/asset but they still are still subject to tax This big misconception could really make a man be in trouble as IRS could easily file a criminal investigation after the audit for you is wrong. This might be common now as the U.S. government is saying that they will focus more on AML in cryptocurrency related transactions.
newbie
Activity: 27
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September 06, 2018, 10:11:39 AM
#28
I don’t think users of crypto currency have to answer anyone for their coins. The core theme of this innovation is that is a decentralized currency market and there should be no taxes to pay upon these coins.
newbie
Activity: 238
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September 06, 2018, 04:57:38 AM
#27
Bitcoin is not for evading taxes as such type not intention is not good. Taxes are important for the development of any economy. Moreover taxes will make the bitcoin reliable and so we should not use for evading tax. Bitcoin should not be tax free
newbie
Activity: 54
Merit: 0
September 06, 2018, 04:37:03 AM
#26
There are no taxes associated with BTC. This is mainly because it is run on a decentralized market and for that the need of paying taxes is eliminated. Maybe this is the reason as to why the government in some countries have banned it.
newbie
Activity: 112
Merit: 0
September 06, 2018, 02:38:32 AM
#25
I feel that bitcoin should not be tax free as tax is the most important for any country and bitcoin has no intention to evade tax and this not the purpose of the bitcoin. So bitcoin should be under tax system like the fiat money which will make it more popular and reliable in the world.
jr. member
Activity: 31
Merit: 12
September 04, 2018, 05:20:48 AM
#24
Yes, I think, Bitcoin as a decentralized system must be tax-free. But, we cannot avoid taxation if the government oblige it.
legendary
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September 03, 2018, 06:12:52 PM
#23
I'm not against paying taxes, it's just that how can those guys really implement it hundred percent to everyone who tried to hoard bitcoins. There are ways to buy coins out of exchanges and those transactions are untraceable specially if you have multiple wallets that is not directly connected with your identity. If people really wants to launder money using bitcoin then the government can't really do anything about it.

And why would you care? Why would you be concerned that they can't implement it 100%? Even though murder is forbidden it happens every day and many cases never get solved. Same thing with Bitcoin. There will always be money laundering and there will always be people who don't pay taxes or don't declare their coins. Laws are meant to be broken, as the saying goes. I'm one of those people who would rather leave the country than surrender to unjust laws, and a law telling me to tell the governments how many coins and on what addresses I'm holding is certainly unjust.
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