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legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1010
July 08, 2011, 12:32:24 PM
#35
This is kinda cool, Wired just ran a piece on it.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/07/bitcoin-android-app/

Am I wrong or do they have this part backwards??

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When you want to transfer Bitcoins to another account, a QR code pops up on your smartphone’s screen. The other user simply scans the QR code with his or her phone, and the Bitcoins are transferred to the second phone’s account.

The phone that 'pops up' a QR code would be the receiver.
The person scanning a QR code would be the sender.


You would be correct.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
July 08, 2011, 12:09:35 PM
#34
This is kinda cool, Wired just ran a piece on it.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/07/bitcoin-android-app/

Am I wrong or do they have this part backwards??

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When you want to transfer Bitcoins to another account, a QR code pops up on your smartphone’s screen. The other user simply scans the QR code with his or her phone, and the Bitcoins are transferred to the second phone’s account.

The phone that 'pops up' a QR code would be the receiver.
The person scanning a QR code would be the sender.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
July 08, 2011, 12:05:23 PM
#33
Therefore you also need an option to not share the wallet in the cloud, and allow me to back it up manually should I so choose.

This program looks awesome!

But the 'backup wallet to cloud' feature is exactly what will stop me from using it yet.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
July 08, 2011, 08:27:53 AM
#32
Did anyone figure out where the wallet.dat file is stored on the phone yet? Mine started forceclosing all of a sudden, and I want to back the wallet up before uninstalling and reinstalling the app, just in case when I uninstall it wipes my wallet with the brand new shiny Bitcoin in it :/

Yes it keeps the wallet on the phones internal memory.

I was hoping for a directory, like /etc/....
hero member
Activity: 483
Merit: 551
July 08, 2011, 02:52:54 AM
#31
Is it possible to play with this on testnet?

If you want to play on testnet, you should try Bitcoin Wallet for Android:

https://market.android.com/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet

It is open source, you can compile it for prodnet as well. I am searching for developers, translators and testers:

http://code.google.com/p/bitcoin-wallet/

Cheers,

Andreas
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 502
July 08, 2011, 02:46:27 AM
#30
The wallet doesn't have coins in; it has keys in.  Therefore it doesn't matter how many coins are in that wallet when it is uploaded; it matters how many might be in it in the future.  It doesn't matter that it will be encrypted in the future, it matters that it's not encrypted now.

This is a great point, and we'd most likely force the creation of new receive addresses (and therefore keys) as part of an upgrade.  I believe this would solve it no?

You'd have to make sure you blanked all the pre-created addresses too; and of course that you didn't overwrite existing addresses which might have credit on them.  Then warn the user that they should transfer all the credit they have on those current addresses to one of the new, safe, ones.

That would probably do it.

I do like the idea of a wallet that is part of my google account; but I don't trust google enough to put real money in a place where I have to trust every employee who has access to their cloud storage (which will be a huge number of them).  The ideal solution then is a shared wallet with strong encryption using a password that I have to enter before sending any bitcoins.

It's still not perfect because you're relying on computing power never increasing sufficiently that your current secure password becomes insecure in the future.  Therefore you also need an option to not share the wallet in the cloud, and allow me to back it up manually should I so choose.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
July 08, 2011, 12:33:23 AM
#29
Woooooooow! How I wish I have an Android. planning to have 1 though hihihi.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1010
July 08, 2011, 12:20:40 AM
#28
Could anyone post a link in this original Android thread to send folks over to this thread?

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=1812.120

Being eligible for the bounty would obviously be nice.  Thanks!

I'm actually trying to determine that.
legendary
Activity: 1708
Merit: 1010
July 08, 2011, 12:19:58 AM
#27
How do I know that it's actually making progress downloading the blockchain?  And why not have a regularly updated app that is really just an archive of the blockchain headers?
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 11:57:27 PM
#26
This is kinda cool, Wired just ran a piece on it.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/07/bitcoin-android-app/
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 11:08:38 PM
#25
Could anyone post a link in this original Android thread to send folks over to this thread?

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=1812.120

Being eligible for the bounty would obviously be nice.  Thanks!
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 11:04:50 PM
#24
Did anyone figure out where the wallet.dat file is stored on the phone yet? Mine started forceclosing all of a sudden, and I want to back the wallet up before uninstalling and reinstalling the app, just in case when I uninstall it wipes my wallet with the brand new shiny Bitcoin in it :/

Yes it keeps the wallet on the phones internal memory.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 11:04:16 PM
#23
Does it have an automatic amount for the transaction fee? I remember an app a little while ago that appeared to have a built in transaction fee of .01 btc.

No transaction fees are added.  Would be a nice option.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 11:03:31 PM
#22
Is it possible to play with this on testnet?

No, we don't currently have an option for this.  But you could build a testnet app using the source from github (if you have an Android development environment setup with Eclipse etc): https://github.com/barmstrong/bitcoin-android

There is a simple boolean flag in ApplicationState.java

We should probably put up a testnet version on github or the Android Market.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 10:58:20 PM
#21
What happens if i use it on 2 phones? I guess the wallet backup will get messed up if i use the same google account on both phones, right?

We actually haven't tested this yet.  In theory it should keep the wallet synced between the two phones correctly (Android is pretty good at this in general).  But I can't say for sure without testing it first.  Some additional logic might be needed.
newbie
Activity: 37
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 10:56:37 PM
#20
The wallet doesn't have coins in; it has keys in.  Therefore it doesn't matter how many coins are in that wallet when it is uploaded; it matters how many might be in it in the future.  It doesn't matter that it will be encrypted in the future, it matters that it's not encrypted now.

This is a great point, and we'd most likely force the creation of new receive addresses (and therefore keys) as part of an upgrade.  I believe this would solve it no?

You can also just uninstall the app (sending your coins somewhere safe first) and reinstall a new copy once encryption comes out to get brand new wallet.

We certainly don't have it all figured out yet.  Thanks for bringing this up.
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 09:00:13 PM
#19
Looks very cool - will add to my phone tonight.
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1035
July 07, 2011, 08:37:54 PM
#18
Did anyone figure out where the wallet.dat file is stored on the phone yet? Mine started forceclosing all of a sudden, and I want to back the wallet up before uninstalling and reinstalling the app, just in case when I uninstall it wipes my wallet with the brand new shiny Bitcoin in it :/
newbie
Activity: 51
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 05:42:08 PM
#17
Is it possible to play with this on testnet?
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
July 07, 2011, 12:17:37 PM
#16
What happens if i use it on 2 phones? I guess the wallet backup will get messed up if i use the same google account on both phones, right?

Also interested in an answer to this. Would using it on two phones clash the sync process or would it just sync two different wallets?
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