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Quote from: mathh26 on February 19, 2017, 07:21:22 PM

if i buy bitcoin with a paypal account and then change this bitcoin wallet to another bitcoin wallet and with that wallet transfer bitcoin with somebody paypal money on another new pay^pal account, can they reach from all where it all start or every thing is lost because it is crypt ?

If you want to transfer your bitcoin anonymously then it is indeed that you have to use a bitcoin mixer there may be many well known bitcoin mixers out there but the best mixers are being advertised here . Anyway I just wonder why do you want it to be anonymous Grin

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Quote from: mathh26 on February 19, 2017, 07:21:22 PM

if i buy bitcoin with a paypal account and then change this bitcoin wallet to another bitcoin wallet and with that wallet transfer bitcoin with somebody paypal money on another new pay^pal account, can they reach from all where it all start or every thing is lost because it is crypt ?

With the sending of Bitcoin back and fort the only thing that you will accomplish is you loose some coins along the way because of the fee's and charges while you can always use a mixer like Bitmixer and if you are not satisfied and still in doubt you can use another mixer like Bitblender I think that will break any link you.

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Quote from: bamboylee on February 20, 2017, 05:01:55 PM

Another way to break the link is to deposit into a exchange site, convert it into altcoin and convert back to bitcoins. You will now have a new set of bitcoins. And if you did it right, you can even earn a few more coins in the process.

Are you joking right now? exchanges just show you that you have X amount of bitcoin or X amount of alt coins you could trade bitcoins back and forth for years without an actual result. at the end they will send you the same coins you first deposited from cold wallet. not to mention altcoins are mostly cash cows for their devs and you might lose more than half of your funds, best thing is to use a mixer just for once and let them do the work for you.

Not necessarily. Most exchanges have cold wallets used to store funds with coins being transferred there once a day or once every couple days (depending on the volume). You'd just need to send coins to an exchange and wait for them to mix with the cold wallet funds, and the result will be similar to putting it through a mixer. Of course a mixer is much easier to use, but there are other options.

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Bitmixer could help with the bitcoin thing, but it ends there. You want something to be brought back to Paypal and that company wants an e-mail always which could be the reason you will be tracked.

Are we helping an illegal activity to happen here? If so, then I dont want to continue.

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As others have rightly stated, avoid PayPal because of reversals!! You will not be protected at all.

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Quote from: mathh26 on February 19, 2017, 07:21:22 PM

if i buy bitcoin with a paypal account and then change this bitcoin wallet to another bitcoin wallet and with that wallet transfer bitcoin with somebody paypal money on another new pay^pal account, can they reach from all where it all start or every thing is lost because it is crypt ?

Of course they can't, I mean no one would make an effort just to track someone's bitcoin on where it came from, and even though, buying bitcoin is not illegal on the first place, so there nothing to be afraid of, or have to worry about, because it is safe. What is wrong is if you are going to buy Farm accounts here, which is illegal, and if a DT or someone finds that it is just a Farm Account, then they would put a Red Trust on it, and the worst is you are going to get banned here.

Some countries don’t allow people to buy bitcoin like in south Korea, but for the most part you can easily get your hands on bitcoin and that is with some money, I mostly use local bitcoin for buying because I can buy as much as I want compared to some services which only sell 1 btc and I don’t have the money for it.

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Quote from: mathh26 on February 19, 2017, 07:21:22 PM

if i buy bitcoin with a paypal account and then change this bitcoin wallet to another bitcoin wallet and with that wallet transfer bitcoin with somebody paypal money on another new pay^pal account, can they reach from all where it all start or every thing is lost because it is crypt ?

i think it is always possible to do that, also I am not sure about using paypal for buying bitcoins because there were quite a few happenings when peoples accounts were frozen after buying or selling bitcoins with paypal on an exchange.

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Quote from: bamboylee on February 20, 2017, 05:01:55 PM

Another way to break the link is to deposit into a exchange site, convert it into altcoin and convert back to bitcoins. You will now have a new set of bitcoins. And if you did it right, you can even earn a few more coins in the process.

Are you joking right now? exchanges just show you that you have X amount of bitcoin or X amount of alt coins you could trade bitcoins back and forth for years without an actual result. at the end they will send you the same coins you first deposited from cold wallet. not to mention altcoins are mostly cash cows for their devs and you might lose more than half of your funds, best thing is to use a mixer just for once and let them do the work for you.

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Another way to break the link is to deposit into a exchange site, convert it into altcoin and convert back to bitcoins. You will now have a new set of bitcoins. And if you did it right, you can even earn a few more coins in the process.

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Quote from: mathh26 on February 19, 2017, 07:21:22 PM

if i buy bitcoin with a paypal account and then change this bitcoin wallet to another bitcoin wallet and with that wallet transfer bitcoin with somebody paypal money on another new pay^pal account, can they reach from all where it all start or every thing is lost because it is crypt ?

You need to use mixer in transfer between your first bitcoin address and second one. I will suggest you to use multiple mixing services to get enough privacy. Use one bitcoin mixing service to send from your first bitcoin address (A) to B (create new bitcoin address) and than use another mixing service to move from B to C (your second bitcoin address) in this way even if there is effort to track down the source of bitcoin, they will fail to do so.

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Quote from: mathh26 on February 19, 2017, 07:21:22 PM

if i buy bitcoin with a paypal account and then change this bitcoin wallet to another bitcoin wallet and with that wallet transfer bitcoin with somebody paypal money on another new pay^pal account, can they reach from all where it all start or every thing is lost because it is crypt ?

Of course they can't, I mean no one would make an effort just to track someone's bitcoin on where it came from, and even though, buying bitcoin is not illegal on the first place, so there nothing to be afraid of, or have to worry about, because it is safe. What is wrong is if you are going to buy Farm accounts here, which is illegal, and if a DT or someone finds that it is just a Farm Account, then they would put a Red Trust on it, and the worst is you are going to get banned here.

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Yes bitcoin mixers will work for you but make sure you are going with the right one as there are almost thousands of websites which claim to be a bitcoin mixer but eventually they never return your deposited funds so go with service which is trusted by someone else before you.

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Quote from: mathh26 on February 19, 2017, 08:36:37 PM

so what do you advice me for bitcoin mixer?

Bitmixer and cryptomixer are the only trusted mixer i have seen so far. Mixing with own bitcoin address will be hard and not enough. You need to have big bitcoin reserve in your wallet and you should keep rotating bitcoin from one of your address to hundreds of your other addresses.

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Quote from: divinemaniac on February 20, 2017, 06:20:49 AM

You will have no luck in that mate. Use a bitcoin mixer like others have suggested and before using it, make sure that it is a trusted bitcoin mixer. Wouldn't want to make your bitcoins untraceable by even yourself. XD

Even if you use a trusted service, it is still possible to track coins by analyzing the in and out going transactions. No matter if you pay a higher than needed fee, the outgoing transactions will still total to nearly the same amount as the incoming transaction, even if it is send in multipel smaller chunks. If someone really wants to and you collect the coins in one final address, it is possible to track the coins.

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yes bitcoin is anonymous but its is also transparent as glass. because everyone could see your transaction and available wallet balance but no one could ever know that who the owner is.

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You will have no luck in that mate. Use a bitcoin mixer like others have suggested and before using it, make sure that it is a trusted bitcoin mixer. Wouldn't want to make your bitcoins untraceable by even yourself. XD

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If you use any service that enforce AML/KYC in any transaction you Bitcoin anonymousity is gone. That is why Bitcoin is psuedoanonymous and not totally anonymous.

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Quote from: xJuturna on February 19, 2017, 10:01:33 PM

It's better than most methods as far as anonymity goes but if you really want to be sure use a mixer. Even then it's still possible to track it back, but I wouldn't worry about it too much there bud.

tracking it back means nothing if you don't know the name of the owner, and guess what? the mixer don't protect the name of the owner either in case of a purchase with bitcoin

because no matter what you do when you purchase somethign you need to reveal your name and address, unless you ship item to someone else and go there and take them afterward...

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Not a wise move op. Firstly paypal does not allow such transactions. Secondly all payments made to paypal are reversible so it is very risky to do this. Secondly they will be able to track it, let's say Bitcoins address does not reveal your identity you are leaving a trail behind in PayPal account, if the authorities scoop down its very easy for them to link the two. From the post it's look like you are going to buy coins, I would advise you to do it from this forum trusted members, but again seeing your Rank it might be slightly difficult but you can try at least.

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Quote from: pooya87 on February 20, 2017, 12:55:57 AM

people don't sell bitcoin for paypal because paypal has charge back while bitcoin doesn't. the reverse is the same if you sell bitcoin for paypal you may get scammed.

sending from one wallet (one bitcoin address) to another wallet (another bitcoin address) does not make you anonymous. it is as easy as clicking to find out where the coins went, and as long as we know who owns the first address we can conclude the second address may belong to the same person too.

maybe you should tell us why you want to do this long process of Paypal > bitcoin > bitcoin > Paypal so we can help you with better solution?!!

Yeah, as quoted PayPal's terms and conditions were gives complete access of reversing, which is not possible with bitcoin. Even there are several experience put forth by users who lost bitcoin just because of making the transaction through paypal. As said bitcoin is pseudo anonymous and sure it is possible to track from the starting point of the transaction.

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