Topic: Bitcoin Avoids De Facto Ban in Europe - page 2. (Read 340 times)
EU is going to experience a major energy crisis due to Russia's war, so it would make sense for them to limit their energy use, including limiting non-essential large scale energy use. And since most of the population doesn't use Bitcoin, and banning mining in EU won't even stop Bitcoin, I can totally imagine some restrictions on mining in the future. But maybe they will ignore it if it's not a big issue for them.
This was a very close call and only few votes (32 against, 24 in favor) decided against banning proof-of work, but I think this story is not finished yet and they will try to do something similar in near future.
If situation in world continues to get more crazy they could push any regulation change they want and people wont even know what him them.
Can you imagine IBM is making special microchips dedicated for Bitcoin mining, and some politicians in Europe are still voting for ban
If situation in world continues to get more crazy they could push any regulation change they want and people wont even know what him them.
Can you imagine IBM is making special microchips dedicated for Bitcoin mining, and some politicians in Europe are still voting for ban
That's a good news. Hopefully this will kick start some price movements soon. Sitting on approx 20 on the Greed and Fear Index for weeks is not uncommon for bitcoin but previously perfectly working indicators like positive/negative news do not have this impact anymore as they did 5 years ago.
I do not believe that this kind of news could have a positive effect on the price, because most of the EU is not exactly a place where BTC can be profitably mined. Although some crypto miners have their own mining farms in the area, the biggest impact is still on some other parts of the world where such operations are carried out on a much larger scale. People misunderstand that this was a real threat at all, because the procedures for passing laws in the EU are not so simple, and any member state may refuse to implement such a law.
Political games about some things related to cryptocurrencies in general in all parts of the world are not exactly in the focus of investors who have turned their attention to the war and everything that will result from the sanctions imposed on the aggressor country. Bitcoin is holding up well no matter what, but in these circumstances, I don't expect a bull run - the bigger challenge will be to defend the position it currently holds.
I am happy that there are politicians and clerks in Europe,who are still capable of using their brains and disapproving such mindless regulations.Cryptocurrency mining in the EU is a pretty insignificant percentage and even if this BS regulation was imposed,the cryptocurrency prices would not have been affected.
These "minimum environmental sustainability standards" are a complete nonsense.It seems that the "green lobby" inside the European Union keeps pushing it's agenda.They have failed now,but they might try again later,with another mindless environmentalist regulation or law.
These "minimum environmental sustainability standards" are a complete nonsense.It seems that the "green lobby" inside the European Union keeps pushing it's agenda.They have failed now,but they might try again later,with another mindless environmentalist regulation or law.
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The EU's Markets in Cryptoassets Regulation — known as MiCA for short — would have forced Proof-of-Work blockchains, like the one used by Bitcoin, to meet "minimum environmental sustainability standards."
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I wasn't expecting a ban in the first place(as they can't) but its nice that someone always isn't rallying against Crypto.
The EU's Markets in Cryptoassets Regulation — known as MiCA for short — would have forced Proof-of-Work blockchains, like the one used by Bitcoin, to meet "minimum environmental sustainability standards."
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I wasn't expecting a ban in the first place(as they can't) but its nice that someone always isn't rallying against Crypto.
Never understood what they mean when they say minimum environmental sustainability standard?
I am not sure why these are still running: Cars, Factories, Satellites, Rockets and everything basically that use fuels to run?
We have nuclear and green energy sources to replace the fuel consumption, why dont they replace it entirely on the planet earth so that we can have so called, "minimum environmental sustainability standards."
Tails of politics and nothing else. I am not sure and dont wanna compare how much energy mining takes against all those things running on gas. But surely its way less and still they think its harmful for the environment. Lolz.
That's a good news. Hopefully this will kick start some price movements soon. Sitting on approx 20 on the Greed and Fear Index for weeks is not uncommon for bitcoin but previously perfectly working indicators like positive/negative news do not have this impact anymore as they did 5 years ago.
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13/ Here is the detailed breakdown of who voted how on the POW-ban amendment.
Some single members voted outside of the party line, but generally S&D, Greens, & GUE voted for, ECR, PPE, Renew & ID voted against.
Small correction: 23 for & 30 against overall. 6 abstained.
Some single members voted outside of the party line, but generally S&D, Greens, & GUE voted for, ECR, PPE, Renew & ID voted against.
Small correction: 23 for & 30 against overall. 6 abstained.
Source: https://twitter.com/paddi_hansen/status/1503401992215044097
So the anti bitcoin parliamentary groups are: S&D, Greens, & GUE.
For the European voters of this forum: remember them. Is the party you vote in your country part of one of these Eurogroups?
"Bitcoin" didn't avoid anything.
A teeny tiny number of people who by some miracle found cheap electricity in EU and may have been mining there avoided this ban.
This statement on its own is not just laughable but also shows how little people understand the world.
A teeny tiny number of people who by some miracle found cheap electricity in EU and may have been mining there avoided this ban.
The EU's Markets in Cryptoassets Regulation — known as MiCA for short — would have forced Proof-of-Work blockchains, like the one used by Bitcoin, to meet "minimum environmental sustainability standards."
Such silly organizations can only force other silly centralized organization to bend to their demands. They can't demand anything a decentralized currency like bitcoin to do anything.This statement on its own is not just laughable but also shows how little people understand the world.
That's unexpected, isn't it? Europeans are known for their environmental conciousness so I had expected them to vote in favor for it and not against it. It would have forced the EU miners to look for alternative source of energy rather than using conventional ones. But anyway, since now they have voted against it, the current form of operation stays in business. The POS ban wouldn't be a nice news for the community for sure!
Now, what's next for those who want it to get banned?
Those who vote against it have their reasons and are at liberty to do so since everyone has a right to their opinion, they will probably continue on that part but since they are minority, their opinion won't carry much weight. instead of that, they can just put some regulations where they protect their citizens from frauds and scams. taking advantage of the opportunity will give them a nice result. banning it will give them nothing in return.
The whole idea to ban PoW is not against scam projects or protect citizens from scam projects, they are concerned about mining and the disadvantage of it to the overall environment. With the result from the vote, the next step is for them to look for a better approach address the issue, banning is off the table for now hopefully.
Looking at the official press release they say only 4 members voted for the ban, and 31 voted against the ban:
source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220309IPR25162/cryptocurrencies-in-the-eu-new-rules-to-boost-benefits-and-curb-threats
source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220309IPR25162/cryptocurrencies-in-the-eu-new-rules-to-boost-benefits-and-curb-threats
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On Monday evening, the Economic and Monetary Affairs Committee adopted, with 31 votes to 4 and 23 abstentions, its negotiating position on new rules on crypto-assets.
This is a slap on the face or a wake up call to everybody who is now shifting their attack on Bitcoin from the point of view of environmental concerns. They are clearly hypocrites. Although this doesn't close the issue altogether, at least it is now made a little bit clearer that the EU has the "aim to boost users’ confidence and support the development of digital services and alternative payment instruments."
And to those who have singled out Bitcoin in their fake environmental advocacy, Members of the European Parliament "stress that other industries (e.g. the video games and entertainment industry, data centres) also consume energy resources that are not climate-friendly." So if these critics are truly concerned about the environment, perhaps they should also call for a ban on video games, entertainment, data centers, etc.
Looking at the official press release they say only 4 members voted for the ban, and 31 voted against the ban:
source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220309IPR25162/cryptocurrencies-in-the-eu-new-rules-to-boost-benefits-and-curb-threats
source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220309IPR25162/cryptocurrencies-in-the-eu-new-rules-to-boost-benefits-and-curb-threats
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On Monday evening, the Economic and Monetary Affairs Committee adopted, with 31 votes to 4 and 23 abstentions, its negotiating position on new rules on crypto-assets.
I'm almost certain these are separate bills as the ones you mentioned are to with ensuring crypto mining stability by 2025 which OP's article also mentioned got voted in.
Afaik a high majority is needed for a lot of bills in the EU parliament as it's meant to effect all EU members.
It's interesting to see that more members actually voted in the pow vote than in the 2025 bill which might be a sign that it won't actually be implemented (European countries come up with a lot of good and big plans for themselves they just lack the incentive to put them in place when they can instead just be listed on the manifesto again).
I wasn't expecting a ban in the first place(as they can't) but its nice that someone always isnt rallying against Crypto.
These kinds of people now its value and it's obvious that they don't put some strict measures against it especially banning it. Now, what's next for those who want it to get banned?
instead of that, they can just put some regulations where they protect their citizens from frauds and scams. taking advantage of the opportunity will give them a nice result. banning it will give them nothing in return.
Looking at the official press release they say only 4 members voted for the ban, and 31 voted against the ban:
source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220309IPR25162/cryptocurrencies-in-the-eu-new-rules-to-boost-benefits-and-curb-threats
source: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20220309IPR25162/cryptocurrencies-in-the-eu-new-rules-to-boost-benefits-and-curb-threats
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On Monday evening, the Economic and Monetary Affairs Committee adopted, with 31 votes to 4 and 23 abstentions, its negotiating position on new rules on crypto-assets.
Bitcoin has avoided a de facto ban in Europe after a controversial proposal was voted down in parliament.
The EU's Markets in Cryptoassets Regulation — known as MiCA for short — would have forced Proof-of-Work blockchains, like the one used by Bitcoin, to meet "minimum environmental sustainability standards."
But according to Unstoppable Finance's head of strategy Patrick Hansen, 32 politicians on the Economic and Monetary Affairs Commitee voted against this proposal — with just 24 in favor.
Read more about it on Coinmarketcap
I wasn't expecting a ban in the first place(as they can't) but its nice that someone always isnt rallying against Crypto.
The EU's Markets in Cryptoassets Regulation — known as MiCA for short — would have forced Proof-of-Work blockchains, like the one used by Bitcoin, to meet "minimum environmental sustainability standards."
But according to Unstoppable Finance's head of strategy Patrick Hansen, 32 politicians on the Economic and Monetary Affairs Commitee voted against this proposal — with just 24 in favor.
Read more about it on Coinmarketcap
I wasn't expecting a ban in the first place(as they can't) but its nice that someone always isnt rallying against Crypto.
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