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Topic: Bitcoin blockchain Or Bitcoin price, which makes it the top cryptocurrency? (Read 584 times)

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There is something I'm thinking though I don't know if it's right or wrong, that Bitcoin is the prime currency here, not necessarily because of its price but because of its blockchain project and being the first in the system so I'm thinking even if other cryptocurrencies price ever get higher than Bitcoin, will Bitcoin still be seen as the prime cryptocurrency? Or is the whole thing around the Bitcoin centered around its current price in the market?
bitcoin have performed and have shown us that it is the prime the center of exchange between cryptocurrencies until now, there is no doubt about it and no one can argue, just by looking at its market capitalization you would see, and the lightning network will boost it more in the near future.
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Bitcoin price does not depend on other currencies. You can issue a more expensive currency, but it will not be the first.
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what do you mean here? in bitcointalk.org? if yes, I think you are right haha, in this forum all people is use cryptocurrency especially bitcoin, why they use bitcoin? I think they use bitcoin for make some profit by trading and investing in cryptocurrency project
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Cryptocurrency Bitcoin is the main cryptocurrency, because it has a very promising technology and the first cryptocurrency in the financial spheres.
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Bitcoin is better than Altcoins based on its network effect and proven security. Both are nearly insurmountable advantages. Bitcoin has a proven usage case as a store of value. Bitcoin has a large lead as a store of valueover every altcoin in having existed 8 years without failure. The security of Bitcoin has been proven far more than its much younger counterparts with usage by almost every metric exceeding that of altcoins.
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I think the price is not the reason bitcoin become the top crypto, its merely because bitcoin is the first digital currency that introduce the decentralised system, it's the popularity that make bitcoin become the number one crypto, now within a lot of other crypto that being created, people seek the more efficient way to do transaction and the lowest transaction fee, so bitcoin need to keep on update to be able to stay on top
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Definitely not because of technology. At the initial stage, it was one of the most promising cryptocurrencies. Now she has a huge authority and price.
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Bitcoin is the first place in the cryptocurrency.its all about price and popularity.bitcoin will be the prime crypto for its development its innovation its reality .
it could be, but as time goes by, digital currencies are growing, and the prices are mutually designed, depending on which one we want to invest in digital currency
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There is something I'm thinking though I don't know if it's right or wrong, that Bitcoin is the prime currency here, not necessarily because of its price but because of its blockchain project and being the first in the system so I'm thinking even if other cryptocurrencies price ever get higher than Bitcoin, will Bitcoin still be seen as the prime cryptocurrency? Or is the whole thing around the Bitcoin centered around its current price in the market?

Neither of bitcoin price or bitcoin blockchain that made bitcoin in the top of cryptocurrencies, The popularity of it leads him to be the first in the crypto market. By this popularity bitcoin gain more value and then bitcoin price increased a lot. In other way, I don't think that there is any other crypto can surpass bitcoin in this market situation, because people believe in bitcoin more than altcoins.
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Bitcoin is the first place in the cryptocurrency.its all about price and popularity.bitcoin will be the prime crypto for its development its innovation its reality .
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Bitcoin is the very first published cryptocurrency. Combining the unrealized prototypes of crypto-currencies and taking all the best properties of other crypto-currencies, Bitcoin has somehow strengthened in the crypto-currency market and is a unique project in itself.
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Bitcoin is the first place in the cryptocurrency. Of course it's all about price and popularity.  When even on TV show how a person bought the first Bitcoin for only 100$, and now bought a yacht and a mansion on the coast, it can not affect the excitement of people. They still hope to increase their profits.
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The main question of course is the price. Technology here of course plays a role, but the price determines its importance undoubtedly more. And remember the number of Bitcoins issued is not infinite!!!
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There is something I'm thinking though I don't know if it's right or wrong, that Bitcoin is the prime currency here, not necessarily because of its price but because of its blockchain project and being the first in the system so I'm thinking even if other cryptocurrencies price ever get higher than Bitcoin, will Bitcoin still be seen as the prime cryptocurrency? Or is the whole thing around the Bitcoin centered around its current price in the market?

Bitcoin in now a days is very popular and the most successful crypto currency of the present times and not only among crypto currencies, bitcoin craze is increasing to that extent that it is now even considered as a threat to Fiat currencies and no doubt if the conditions remain the same then it will obviously remove the Fiat currencies as the most important thing that make bitcoin so successful is its safest and the most confidential way of transacting and this only thing has attracted millions of people around the world to invest into bitcoin.
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There is something I'm thinking though I don't know if it's right or wrong, that Bitcoin is the prime currency here, not necessarily because of its price but because of its blockchain project and being the first in the system so I'm thinking even if other cryptocurrencies price ever get higher than Bitcoin, will Bitcoin still be seen as the prime cryptocurrency? Or is the whole thing around the Bitcoin centered around its current price in the market?

According to be, the Bitcoin is the prime currency because it was the first cryptocurrency to be launched. Due to this fact, it enjoys the first mover advantages which place it in the advantageous position in comparison to other cryptocurrencies. I think this the main reason that Bitcoin is still the king of the crypto market. The market capitalization plays an important role and not the price.
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There is something I'm thinking though I don't know if it's right or wrong, that Bitcoin is the prime currency here, not necessarily because of its price but because of its blockchain project and being the first in the system so I'm thinking even if other cryptocurrencies price ever get higher than Bitcoin, will Bitcoin still be seen as the prime cryptocurrency? Or is the whole thing around the Bitcoin centered around its current price in the market?

It is a close circle of events. Bitcoin is the most popular cryptocurrency as it was the first one ever. For that reason it absorbs the most value on the market because it's almost always the first puchase whene entering cryptocurrency market. As it is the first purchase it's vale is going up so it's making BTC most popular and so on and so on.
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The price is not a single element to determine the prime status of it. Bitcoin definitely gained momentum due to its first mover advantage of it. However, it's the utility value that makes it the prime currency. There are the people who are using it as a payment system and any other coin having high price might dominate the crypto market but it won't be a prime cryptocurrency unless there are factors like userbase and utility value to support the market cap.
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Very promising technology, and the price plays an important role.And actually, I think that the technology they have is amazing.
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
In reality bitcoin is the only coin that really matters because of the way that it is set up.  It solves the byzantine general's problem and networking effects have been being built upon it since the genesis block... There are nine networking effects that are outlined by Trace Mayer, and you can easily look them up in order to better attempt to understand the importance of bitcoin and it's paradigm shifting contribution to securing value in a way that is outside of centralized authorities that has never been available before it, and might not even have been possible until the internet had reached a certain level of maturity in recent years.

bitcoins dominance and inspiration of 2009-2011 WAS based on the above..    
so from 2009-2011 yes bitcoins blockchain vs price. bitcoin was winning based on blockchan features, because the price was low compared to other currencies/mediums of exchange in the world, and the features bitcoin offered were far more valuable than its price
but..

2011-2013
then came altcoins that also used thee same solution. thus other coins utility of a decentralised network meant bitcoin no longer had a unique feature that any other currencies couldnt offer.

bitcoins dominance then became price and merchant utility. merchants didnt use litecoin as their "we accept.." paymnt method. but while other coins were offering faster confirmation average times or more data per block or more/less coin reward per block.. bitcoin started losing the utility race.

2013-2015
with less unique codebases of differing node clients, and the war against other 'generals' had started to rip(REKT) apart the byzantiines solution, thus losing bitcoins uniquenase, features and benfits further

2015-2018
and now the reliance on one source of new rule/upgrade path (core roadmap/mandatory upgrades) the whole utility of consensus(bysantines solution) has nearly disapeared completely due to this whole drama of the last 2 years.
and now merchant service tools are now opening their gates to other coins. so bitcoin is now losing the merchant adoption race too.
soo.. now it seems bitcoins only promoted 'feature' is first to market (which didnt play well for myspace or napstre)
leaving people to now only prompt the price as the reason to try inticing new people

now with all that said.
market cap and price are both illusions.
if i called 1000 apples shares as a 'cookingapple' (large apple) then the price per unit would be bigger.
if i made an altcoin of 5 trillion coins and sold 1 coin for $5 the market cap would be $5trillion.

think of it this way. look passed the ilusion of the basket terms of measure.
many people say that bitcoin is $6500 per unit and gold is only $1800 per unit(btc vs oz)...
but what if i told you bitcoin was only $0.0065 a unit and gold was $38k a unit. (bits vs KG)

so with people starting to measure bitcoin as ubtc(bits(100sat)) the price per unit will drop from ~$6500 per unit(BTC) to ~$0.0065 per unit(bits)
thus in future bitcoin will show as a under penny per unit price and other altcoins will hav a higher price per unit. and alts will have a higher market cap.

p.s i love bitcoin. but im a realist not an ass kisser. its far better to reveal the issues and hope the community wake up and then help sort the issue, rather than kiss ass, hide the problem and let it continue/get worse.

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summary.
watch trace mayors SEVEN network effects video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3n6lLeuPQA
then ask in 2018 do all these 7 network effects still apply to bitcoin uniquely
in my view the only one remaining is point 4 (mining hashrate). which the cost of mining upholds the price support (the low of a year) where people refuse to sell below their cost of obtaining bitcoin


I am totally lost in this one, I need to go make some research so that I may be able to have something to say, but in any case, I'm glad I even convinced myself to asked the question baceuse I almost considered it as irrelevant to bring it up here, but I managed to convince myself to ask the question and here are several detailed explanations that would move me to make more research to understand Bitcoin more and it's associated technologies. Thanks for sharing

Yes... I already responded to franky1's points to assert that his framing of history and the issues is largely misleading, so hopefully your greater "research" into the matter will help you consider the matter in light of a multitude of bitcoin denigration spinning that remains in the space.. and franky1 has a track record of showing himself as a bitcoin denigrator that just throws out a bunch of nonsense hoping that some of it sticks.. in order to achieve his bitcoin denigration goals..
jr. member
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In reality bitcoin is the only coin that really matters because of the way that it is set up.  It solves the byzantine general's problem and networking effects have been being built upon it since the genesis block... There are nine networking effects that are outlined by Trace Mayer, and you can easily look them up in order to better attempt to understand the importance of bitcoin and it's paradigm shifting contribution to securing value in a way that is outside of centralized authorities that has never been available before it, and might not even have been possible until the internet had reached a certain level of maturity in recent years.

bitcoins dominance and inspiration of 2009-2011 WAS based on the above..    
so from 2009-2011 yes bitcoins blockchain vs price. bitcoin was winning based on blockchan features, because the price was low compared to other currencies/mediums of exchange in the world, and the features bitcoin offered were far more valuable than its price
but..

2011-2013
then came altcoins that also used thee same solution. thus other coins utility of a decentralised network meant bitcoin no longer had a unique feature that any other currencies couldnt offer.

bitcoins dominance then became price and merchant utility. merchants didnt use litecoin as their "we accept.." paymnt method. but while other coins were offering faster confirmation average times or more data per block or more/less coin reward per block.. bitcoin started losing the utility race.

2013-2015
with less unique codebases of differing node clients, and the war against other 'generals' had started to rip(REKT) apart the byzantiines solution, thus losing bitcoins uniquenase, features and benfits further

2015-2018
and now the reliance on one source of new rule/upgrade path (core roadmap/mandatory upgrades) the whole utility of consensus(bysantines solution) has nearly disapeared completely due to this whole drama of the last 2 years.
and now merchant service tools are now opening their gates to other coins. so bitcoin is now losing the merchant adoption race too.
soo.. now it seems bitcoins only promoted 'feature' is first to market (which didnt play well for myspace or napstre)
leaving people to now only prompt the price as the reason to try inticing new people

now with all that said.
market cap and price are both illusions.
if i called 1000 apples shares as a 'cookingapple' (large apple) then the price per unit would be bigger.
if i made an altcoin of 5 trillion coins and sold 1 coin for $5 the market cap would be $5trillion.

think of it this way. look passed the ilusion of the basket terms of measure.
many people say that bitcoin is $6500 per unit and gold is only $1800 per unit(btc vs oz)...
but what if i told you bitcoin was only $0.0065 a unit and gold was $38k a unit. (bits vs KG)

so with people starting to measure bitcoin as ubtc(bits(100sat)) the price per unit will drop from ~$6500 per unit(BTC) to ~$0.0065 per unit(bits)
thus in future bitcoin will show as a under penny per unit price and other altcoins will hav a higher price per unit. and alts will have a higher market cap.

p.s i love bitcoin. but im a realist not an ass kisser. its far better to reveal the issues and hope the community wake up and then help sort the issue, rather than kiss ass, hide the problem and let it continue/get worse.

..
summary.
watch trace mayors SEVEN network effects video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3n6lLeuPQA
then ask in 2018 do all these 7 network effects still apply to bitcoin uniquely
in my view the only one remaining is point 4 (mining hashrate). which the cost of mining upholds the price support (the low of a year) where people refuse to sell below their cost of obtaining bitcoin


I am totally lost in this one, I need to go make some research so that I may be able to have something to say, but in any case, I'm glad I even convinced myself to asked the question baceuse I almost considered it as irrelevant to bring it up here, but I managed to convince myself to ask the question and here are several detailed explanations that would move me to make more research to understand Bitcoin more and it's associated technologies. Thanks for sharing
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