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legendary
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What BitTorrent did to movies and music is ILLEGAL.  Not as bad, but that example is like the "silk road" example we have to hear about over and over in the negative press.

Using the email/standard mail example is much more accurate although not as "sexy"

If BitTorrent is so illegal, why is the BitTorrent company still around? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BitTorrent_company - this is an argument like guns don't kill, people kill.

If you're trying to explain what a gun does to someone who has never heard of one, do you avoid telling them they are useful for killing people simply because that's illegal?  Or because you are afraid you'll be promoting murder?  No, not if your purpose is to convey an understanding of what makes a gun valuable.  Not all torrents are illegal either.



I didn't say bittorrent is Illegal. The service can and is used also for legal reasons. (just like guns, drugs and cash......)

But your movie/music sentence DOES imply the illegal uses of bittorrent.. 

I'm not a prude and I have seen movies from torrents as well (mostly junk that i would never see in the theaters...)
But i still don't go about promoting the use of bittorrent for such purposes.


legendary
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What BitTorrent did to movies and music is ILLEGAL.  Not as bad, but that example is like the "silk road" example we have to hear about over and over in the negative press.

Using the email/standard mail example is much more accurate although not as "sexy"

If BitTorrent is so illegal, why is the BitTorrent company still around? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BitTorrent_company - this is an argument like guns don't kill, people kill.

If you're trying to explain what a gun does to someone who has never heard of one, do you avoid telling them they are useful for killing people simply because that's illegal?  Or because you are afraid you'll be promoting murder?  No, not if your purpose is to convey an understanding of what makes a gun valuable.  Not all torrents are illegal either.
Yeah, but the vast majority of torrents are illegal, and they certainly have a negative connotation in the mind of most anyone who doesn't actively use it.  It's a correlation to be avoided.
hero member
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I still think we are marketing to the wrong types of people. Nerds use bitcoin, so we should market more to nerds.

specifically, we should market more to gamers.
they already use virtual currencies, half-finished software and buy stuff online.

vip
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What BitTorrent did to movies and music is ILLEGAL.  Not as bad, but that example is like the "silk road" example we have to hear about over and over in the negative press.

Using the email/standard mail example is much more accurate although not as "sexy"

If BitTorrent is so illegal, why is the BitTorrent company still around? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=BitTorrent_company - this is an argument like guns don't kill, people kill.

If you're trying to explain what a gun does to someone who has never heard of one, do you avoid telling them they are useful for killing people simply because that's illegal?  Or because you are afraid you'll be promoting murder?  No, not if your purpose is to convey an understanding of what makes a gun valuable.  Not all torrents are illegal either.

hero member
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I still think we are marketing to the wrong types of people. Nerds use bitcoin, so we should market more to nerds.

On that note: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.691128
legendary
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..........based on that observation, I am seriously considering a window sticker on my car: "Bitcoin will do to money and banking what BitTorrent did to music and movies.")



What BitTorrent did to movies and music is ILLEGAL.  Not as bad, but that example is like the "silk road" example we have to hear about over and over in the negative press.

Using the email/standard mail example is much more accurate although not as "sexy"
legendary
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That, in of itself, would lower costs for all products across the board--perhaps globally.
US-ians are funny people, just like in that sentence above. How about you guys upgrade your Constitution to allow uniform collection of per-state sales taxes? Large segment of the interstate transportation industry exists purely for tax-avoidance purposes by double-shipping. Why worry about a pittance of fuel-fee skimming?

[Citation Needed]

legendary
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That, in of itself, would lower costs for all products across the board--perhaps globally.
US-ians are funny people, just like in that sentence above. How about you guys upgrade your Constitution to allow uniform collection of per-state sales taxes? Large segment of the interstate transportation industry exists purely for tax-avoidance purposes by double-shipping. Why worry about a pittance of fuel-fee skimming?
legendary
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Speaking of truck stops....I hadn't even thought of the ComCheck aspect of Bitcoin.  That would be a market that has not been tapped yet.  Big issues come from all the truckers needing emergency cash...hence the ComCheck....Bitcoin could virtually replace/secure the whole process.

I worked in IT for a trucking company once.  ComChecks (ComData) and fuel cards were like fraud-magnets on the dispatch side.  Some drivers were paid almost entirely in advances via ComChecks.  Fees are outrageous on both sides of the transaction, and the truck stops even have to spend money to host the ComCheck / fuel card terminals.  I can't believe Visa/PayPal/Western Union hasn't broken into the ComCheck thing, as it'd have to be lucrative even at half the fees.

Bitcoin could easily be used to transfer value to a driver from their dispatcher, but the truck stop doesn't accept BTC for diesel.  Need to integrate a bit-pay type service into this equation.

Every truck driver has a cell phone, and almost all of them have a smart-phone (a backup-GPS+Inet+games is too high-utility to pass up, esp if you get stuck at a dock for hours waiting for load/unload).

Killing off ComChecks would kill off a seriously evil drain on the transportation industry.

Love this idea.

That, in of itself, would lower costs for all products across the board--perhaps globally. And that's only if the savings is passed down to the consumers, otherwise those at the top should see the beauty in its design and take full advantage of Bitcoin----and pocket the PROFITTTTTTTT!!!

~Bruno~


legendary
Activity: 1904
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Speaking of truck stops....I hadn't even thought of the ComCheck aspect of Bitcoin.  That would be a market that has not been tapped yet.  Big issues come from all the truckers needing emergency cash...hence the ComCheck....Bitcoin could virtually replace/secure the whole process.

I worked in IT for a trucking company once.  ComChecks (ComData) and fuel cards were like fraud-magnets on the dispatch side.  Some drivers were paid almost entirely in advances via ComChecks.  Fees are outrageous on both sides of the transaction, and the truck stops even have to spend money to host the ComCheck / fuel card terminals.  I can't believe Visa/PayPal/Western Union hasn't broken into the ComCheck thing, as it'd have to be lucrative even at half the fees.

Bitcoin could easily be used to transfer value to a driver from their dispatcher, but the truck stop doesn't accept BTC for diesel.  Need to integrate a bit-pay type service into this equation.

Every truck driver has a cell phone, and almost all of them have a smart-phone (a backup-GPS+Inet+games is too high-utility to pass up, esp if you get stuck at a dock for hours waiting for load/unload).

Killing off ComChecks would kill off a seriously evil drain on the transportation industry.

Love this idea.
newbie
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Speaking of truck stops....I hadn't even thought of the ComCheck aspect of Bitcoin.  That would be a market that has not been tapped yet.  Big issues come from all the truckers needing emergency cash...hence the ComCheck....Bitcoin could virtually replace/secure the whole process.

I worked in IT for a trucking company once.  ComChecks (ComData) and fuel cards were like fraud-magnets on the dispatch side.  Some drivers were paid almost entirely in advances via ComChecks.  Fees are outrageous on both sides of the transaction, and the truck stops even have to spend money to host the ComCheck / fuel card terminals.  I can't believe Visa/PayPal/Western Union hasn't broken into the ComCheck thing, as it'd have to be lucrative even at half the fees.

Bitcoin could easily be used to transfer value to a driver from their dispatcher, but the truck stop doesn't accept BTC for diesel.  Need to integrate a bit-pay type service into this equation.

Every truck driver has a cell phone, and almost all of them have a smart-phone (a backup-GPS+Inet+games is too high-utility to pass up, esp if you get stuck at a dock for hours waiting for load/unload).

Killing off ComChecks would kill off a seriously evil drain on the transportation industry.
full member
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Today is the last day of the show.  It's been a very busy and exhausting 4 days, but we have talked to alot of really big decision makers at some major companies.  These deals will take time to follow up on and complete. but look for an explosion of bitcoin in 2012, in ways you can't imagine.  some of these ideas we had not even thought of!

Grrr! You tease! Wink


I don't care how much you tease us, provided the big reveal isn't something along the lines of: We're all going to Pattaya!!!

Since I was there and went to dinner with these guys, I got to hear what some of these things were.  Some of them were not things we would want to post in the forums - about how X person at Y company was totally interested - as we anticipate that those very same people will be browsing these forums and aren't going to want to see their own name in our brags before they even get a chance to do their research and take the temperature of what people think of Bitcoin when they get back home.

For example, I understood that somebody responsible for managing the point-of-sale networks for large chain of truck stops had a lot to ask.  Do I dare say who in the forums?  Of course not, my interest in not alienating them by having them see their own company name in our forums exceeds my interest in satiating everyone's desire to know who it is.

I don't expect an influx of 4chan newbies suddenly dumping bazillions of dollars into Bitcoin just having heard of it for the first time due to their first encounter at CES.  If they had never heard of Bitcoin, their first impression from seeing a Bitcoin booth is that it's another company just trying to peddle a whiz bang product, and CES is overflowing with of those.  (I did notice though, that people who understood and used BitTorrent were much quicker at grasping the magic sight-unseen than those who did not - based on that observation, I am seriously considering a window sticker on my car: "Bitcoin will do to money and banking what BitTorrent did to music and movies.")

But on the other hand, what keeps me excited, is the people who came up to the booth and say things like "Hey! I've heard of Bitcoin. I don't yet know what it is, but I heard , and want to ask questions, because we do and , and I was wondering if Bitcoin could help us do a better job of ".  These are people who are already well-situated in a career where their buyoff on Bitcoin can be a major part of a big company's decision to take a real look at it.  Those are the ones who will make a serious difference when they get home.

Speaking of truck stops....I hadn't even thought of the ComCheck aspect of Bitcoin.  That would be a market that has not been tapped yet.  Big issues come from all the truckers needing emergency cash...hence the ComCheck....Bitcoin could virtually replace/secure the whole process.
vip
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I hate bumper stickers. That said, I would purchase a few of these and put them on each car I own, tastefully in the lower center of the rear window. So, I would prefer if the sticky part is on the same side as the message. I do see you said window sticker instead of bumper sticker!  Cheesy

These wouldn't be "bumper stickers".  They would be letter cutouts that go on the window.  Not printed.  Each letter is its own sticker of solid white color, applied from a backing sheet.

Same concept as this: but not quite the size. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?302547-My-new-ron-paul-window-sticker!
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Nice pictures, and well done.

vip
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I am seriously considering a window sticker on my car: "Bitcoin will do to money and banking what BitTorrent did to music and movies."

Know of anywhere I could buy this with my BTC? I'd love to have one.

My wife owns equipment that produces vinyl decals, we could probably swing a few if there's significant interest.  We can make them any width... assuming I can get her to not object to putting it on the back of my car. =)
legendary
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I am seriously considering a window sticker on my car: "Bitcoin will do to money and banking what BitTorrent did to music and movies."

Know of anywhere I could buy this with my BTC? I'd love to have one.
vip
Activity: 1386
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
Today is the last day of the show.  It's been a very busy and exhausting 4 days, but we have talked to alot of really big decision makers at some major companies.  These deals will take time to follow up on and complete. but look for an explosion of bitcoin in 2012, in ways you can't imagine.  some of these ideas we had not even thought of!

Grrr! You tease! Wink


I don't care how much you tease us, provided the big reveal isn't something along the lines of: We're all going to Pattaya!!!

Since I was there and went to dinner with these guys, I got to hear what some of these things were.  Some of them were not things we would want to post in the forums - about how X person at Y company was totally interested - as we anticipate that those very same people will be browsing these forums and aren't going to want to see their own name in our brags before they even get a chance to do their research and take the temperature of what people think of Bitcoin when they get back home.

For example, I understood that somebody responsible for managing the point-of-sale networks for large chain of truck stops had a lot to ask.  Do I dare say who in the forums?  Of course not, my interest in not alienating them by having them see their own company name in our forums exceeds my interest in satiating everyone's desire to know who it is.

I don't expect an influx of 4chan newbies suddenly dumping bazillions of dollars into Bitcoin just having heard of it for the first time due to their first encounter at CES.  If they had never heard of Bitcoin, their first impression from seeing a Bitcoin booth is that it's another company just trying to peddle a whiz bang product, and CES is overflowing with of those.  (I did notice though, that people who understood and used BitTorrent were much quicker at grasping the magic sight-unseen than those who did not - based on that observation, I am seriously considering a window sticker on my car: "Bitcoin will do to money and banking what BitTorrent did to music and movies.")

But on the other hand, what keeps me excited, is the people who came up to the booth and say things like "Hey! I've heard of Bitcoin. I don't yet know what it is, but I heard , and want to ask questions, because we do and , and I was wondering if Bitcoin could help us do a better job of ".  These are people who are already well-situated in a career where their buyoff on Bitcoin can be a major part of a big company's decision to take a real look at it.  Those are the ones who will make a serious difference when they get home.
legendary
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Today is the last day of the show.  It's been a very busy and exhausting 4 days, but we have talked to alot of really big decision makers at some major companies.  These deals will take time to follow up on and complete. but look for an explosion of bitcoin in 2012, in ways you can't imagine.  some of these ideas we had not even thought of!

Grrr! You tease! Wink


I don't care how much you tease us, provided the big reveal isn't something along the lines of: We're all going to Pattaya!!!
legendary
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Firstbits: Compromised. Thanks, Android!
Today is the last day of the show.  It's been a very busy and exhausting 4 days, but we have talked to alot of really big decision makers at some major companies.  These deals will take time to follow up on and complete. but look for an explosion of bitcoin in 2012, in ways you can't imagine.  some of these ideas we had not even thought of!

Grrr! You tease! Wink
hero member
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Today is the last day of the show.  It's been a very busy and exhausting 4 days, but we have talked to alot of really big decision makers at some major companies.  These deals will take time to follow up on and complete. but look for an explosion of bitcoin in 2012, in ways you can't imagine.  some of these ideas we had not even thought of!
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