Bitcoin bulls vs bears... what side are you on? - page 2.

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Quote from: Pursuer on March 02, 2019, 06:12:27 AM

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Quote from: Pursuer on March 02, 2019, 03:40:00 AM

first of all the people you named are neither bulls nor bears. most of them are idiots and assholes on the internet trying to achieve their own goals by using bitcoin and its name. for example McAfee is just making money from the publicity he gains, Dimon is advertising his bank and their centralized shitcoin,...

If no one else, Jack Dorsey is definitely a bull. He's on the record as believing Bitcoin will be "the internet's native currency." He's the founder/CEO of Square, which was already a booming peer-to-peer cash app when it added the ability to buy BTC. It's pretty much the easiest and most accessible way for retail investors in the US to buy BTC now.

that was somewhat my point. most of these people are advertising their own business whether they are for bitcoin or against it. so when that CEO is hyping bitcoin up, he is in fact advertising his own business so that he can earn more.

You could say that about any Bitcoin business in existence. You could even say that about any Bitcoin owner in existence. Don't we all want higher prices? Even margin platforms want the bull market to return because bear markets = low volumes.

The question wasn't whether Jack Dorsey wants to make money though. The question was whether Jack Dorsey is a Bitcoin bull. If he was a Bitcoin bear, there's no way in hell Square would have integrated Bitcoin.

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on March 03, 2019, 11:18:34 AM

I think the real investors don't think too much about entering at any price, it doesn't matter to them, the most important thing is how to be able to get profits and be able to influence prices in exchange.

Getting profits largely depends on your entry price, lol.

Investors aren't the same, they have different targets, risk management and different motives. I would say that most investors aren't as emotionally connected with crypto as most of us here are, which actually is a good thing. People valuing the fundamentals tend to hold on to their coins longer than those who don't, which especially during bear markets results in a wasted opportunity.

I could have gained way more by showing less attachment to whatever I hold in order to end up with more coins right now, but it's very easy to speak out like this afterwards.

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Quote from: madrogue on March 03, 2019, 03:44:57 AM

Investors choose Bear market and then they become Holders.
Holders choose Bull market to sell their assets for profit.

I think the real investors don't think too much about entering at any price, it doesn't matter to them, the most important thing is how to be able to get profits and be able to influence prices in exchange.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on March 03, 2019, 09:59:36 AM

At this moment I can clearly say I am long on bull, I had enough time to collect as much bitcoin as I can and I continue to get more every week but at this point I am ready for a bull run.

Bear has been a bit good because thanks to the bear I have managed to drop the average buy price low enough to say I am fine with it, if the price went down a bit and went up again that would have been profit too but if it didn't give me enough time I wouldn't be capable of collecting this much bitcoin at these low amounts so I am grateful to bear market, yet no matter how much bear market worked out for me, I am always looking out for a bull for a quick get out.

If we can reach above $6k one day I will probably put a sell order and stop loss just so I can get out before it goes down again, however I need above $6k for that which is fairly bull. After going above $6k and I sell, than it can go back down so I can start to collect again.

But it is not too late, we are in a phase of accumulation, even so, this stage is where the price is very cheap, we also do not know when the bitcoin goes up, but it is getting longer, it may increase in this phase, but correct, perhaps in those corrections nearby should take advantage of the purchase of bitcoin a little cheaper.

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At this moment I can clearly say I am long on bull, I had enough time to collect as much bitcoin as I can and I continue to get more every week but at this point I am ready for a bull run.

Bear has been a bit good because thanks to the bear I have managed to drop the average buy price low enough to say I am fine with it, if the price went down a bit and went up again that would have been profit too but if it didn't give me enough time I wouldn't be capable of collecting this much bitcoin at these low amounts so I am grateful to bear market, yet no matter how much bear market worked out for me, I am always looking out for a bull for a quick get out.

If we can reach above $6k one day I will probably put a sell order and stop loss just so I can get out before it goes down again, however I need above $6k for that which is fairly bull. After going above $6k and I sell, than it can go back down so I can start to collect again.

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Quote from: davis196 on March 01, 2019, 07:45:49 AM

The people in your list aren't bitcoin "bears".They are anti-bitcoin haters.
A bitcoin bear,is a trader that expects that the bitcoin price will go down,so he sells now and buys later at a cheaper price,which means he gets profits.The people in your list are saying that bitcoin is bullshit and will die sooner or later.

Anti bitcoin people cannot be consider as Bitcoin Bearish right?They shouldn’t be on the list because they dont even belong here so who will support them?the FUD creators?or those anti bitcoin here but still staying inside the cryptospace?

Well obviously the majority of answers will favor the bitcoin bullish because pople here wants positive feeds and don’t even have care for those puppets that hates bitcoin and wanted this to die

Most of the people who listened to negative propaganda became panicked, and failed to manage their asset which resulted to selling even though profit wasn't reached. However most certain cases became so drastic previous weeks ago, haters seem to influence more panic investors that's why we seen price was struggling to increase at better price surges. Bear market became so rampant, and that's not the side which I am looking for. Bull run must be established in order for cryptocurrency to become great again.

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Quote from: madrogue on March 03, 2019, 03:44:57 AM

Investors choose Bear market and then they become Holders.
Holders choose Bull market to sell their assets for profit.

maybe these people who you are talking about don't yet know what being bullish and bearish means!
sitting around and hoping for the market to move in a direction after you are done with it does't matter at all because you are already out of it and your thoughts don't matter.
what matters is when people are still in the market and are bullish meaning they buy more because they think price is going up or are bearish and think the opposite.

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Quote from: davis196 on March 01, 2019, 07:45:49 AM

The people in your list aren't bitcoin "bears".They are anti-bitcoin haters.
A bitcoin bear,is a trader that expects that the bitcoin price will go down,so he sells now and buys later at a cheaper price,which means he gets profits.The people in your list are saying that bitcoin is bullshit and will die sooner or later.

Anti bitcoin people cannot be consider as Bitcoin Bearish right?They shouldn’t be on the list because they dont even belong here so who will support them?the FUD creators?or those anti bitcoin here but still staying inside the cryptospace?

Well obviously the majority of answers will favor the bitcoin bullish because pople here wants positive feeds and don’t even have care for those puppets that hates bitcoin and wanted this to die

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Investors choose Bear market and then they become Holders.
Holders choose Bull market to sell their assets for profit.

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It is not a surprise that I haven't decided yet because we are in neither of those things just yet, yes it looks like bitcoin has a lot of great things going for it but when are we going to learn that just because there are technological great things ahead of us will mean nothing compared to bad news.

You can have halving which is awesome and should increase the price of bitcoin but also one bad thing like craig wright selling thousands of bitcoin could demolish any positive halving could bring.

Look at couple months ago when cost of bitcoin mining was about 5 thousand dollars or so, it was the backbone of why we believed price wouldn't fall, as soon as he sold thousands of coins many miners closed their machines and difficulty dropped and we had bitcoin at a lower price with lower cost. Yes bitcoin could go up and everything looks to back that up but it all depends on one big bad thing and all can go to waste.

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Quote from: Question123 on March 02, 2019, 11:09:53 AM

Of course I want bitcoin bull or the bull run. I will support to the people who are believe that there still bull run happen this year even this month of March will not start still maybe in the next few months we will fell that and I hope that really happen. I will wait for the bull run and I hope bear market will stop and done so we can see the market see green again and not to lose more anymore of our money.

All the crypto lovers or investors would only want it to be bull market in coming time and not the bear market. 2018 we had enough of the down market due to which people had lost millions of dollars overall as many had to sell in panic mode.

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Of course I want bitcoin bull or the bull run. I will support to the people who are believe that there still bull run happen this year even this month of March will not start still maybe in the next few months we will fell that and I hope that really happen. I will wait for the bull run and I hope bear market will stop and done so we can see the market see green again and not to lose more anymore of our money.

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We can discuss or argue who is bull and who is bear on that list, but it is hard fact that some of them support cryptocurrency and give some contribution in terms of promotion and adaptation, and others are completely negative towards bitcoin or cryptocurrency in general. I'm surprised to not see one of the biggest supporter of crypto on bull list, Tim Draper is certainly one who deserves to be there, but not according to opinion of Mr. Barry.

I am of course on the side of those who think positively and doing good things for crypto community. Though some say that they do it from their personal interests, and this can be true - but it is not secret that this world turns around money&profit.

I find one interesting reply on tweet from OP :

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Aproximation to natural death: Jamie Dimon - 10 years Warren Buffet - 1-2 years/critical Ben Benrake - 10 years Larry Fink - 8 years Nouriel Roubini - 15 years (10 last years in mental hospital) Joseph Stiglitz - 4 years I don't trust people who will be dead in 5 Y average

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/1101104336615194625

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Quote from: slaman29 on March 02, 2019, 03:50:10 AM

I want the bear market to last for years so I can continue growing and when ATH comes again in a few years, I'll be fine.

Wishful thinking I know.

well at least you are honest about it! most people that you see these days are pushing for bear market with all kinds of trickery and FUD while hiding their true intentions of wanting to buy more bitcoin because they don't really believe in bear market themselves.

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Quote from: exstasie on March 02, 2019, 04:07:14 AM

Quote from: Pursuer on March 02, 2019, 03:40:00 AM

first of all the people you named are neither bulls nor bears. most of them are idiots and assholes on the internet trying to achieve their own goals by using bitcoin and its name. for example McAfee is just making money from the publicity he gains, Dimon is advertising his bank and their centralized shitcoin,...

If no one else, Jack Dorsey is definitely a bull. He's on the record as believing Bitcoin will be "the internet's native currency." He's the founder/CEO of Square, which was already a booming peer-to-peer cash app when it added the ability to buy BTC. It's pretty much the easiest and most accessible way for retail investors in the US to buy BTC now.

that was somewhat my point. most of these people are advertising their own business whether they are for bitcoin or against it. so when that CEO is hyping bitcoin up, he is in fact advertising his own business so that he can earn more.
I have to also mention that in some rare cases this is not a bad thing. some people both believe in bitcoin and have a business. I am not familiar with Square CEO that you mentioned, so maybe he is of this later group.

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For me i will choose bulls even though previously the price fluctuate again . Because to be honest i don't want become or to join as a Fud's on this situation. Lol all i want is a another bump of price and stable growth rate and probably it will happen now after this correction. because it's very unfair if this market will always follow the bearish after small pump.

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Jamie Dimon regret that bitcoin is a fraud and launched his JPM coin right? so I think he should belong to the bulls side. I'll go with the bullish to be honest, I want to see the technology be recognize all over the world and see it's value rise.

Looking at the positive side which can be seen on both ends, be it bears or bulls. But I'd love to stick with those people who have been telling positive things about bitcoin and those negatives will always exist regardless of what they are fighting for.

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Quote from: michellee on March 02, 2019, 02:12:58 AM

I will be on the neutral side because with the stay in the middle of them,

In short you want the price to go stable ? Well good for you because you are already happy and contented on what you are feeling with bitcoin .

@op Both have pro's and con's . i love the bear because i can buy coins at a bargain cost but i do also love the bull because my assets will be useless if i cannot sell them at a higher price . thats it i go for both sides Wink

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generally speaking i tend to look at bitcoin in long term while zooming out of the charts and looking at the bigger picture so i am always a bull because no matter what happens in the short term, price is going to rise up without exceptions. and that will continue until mass adoption is reached which warrants a price above $1 million at the very least.

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I'm definitely in the long term bull camp myself.

Quote from: Pursuer on March 02, 2019, 03:40:00 AM

first of all the people you named are neither bulls nor bears. most of them are idiots and assholes on the internet trying to achieve their own goals by using bitcoin and its name. for example McAfee is just making money from the publicity he gains, Dimon is advertising his bank and their centralized shitcoin,...

If no one else, Jack Dorsey is definitely a bull. He's on the record as believing Bitcoin will be "the internet's native currency." He's the founder/CEO of Square, which was already a booming peer-to-peer cash app when it added the ability to buy BTC. It's pretty much the easiest and most accessible way for retail investors in the US to buy BTC now.

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