Topic: BitCoin Cash (Read 345 times)

Bitcoin cash is indeed a copycat but then again, we cannot blame the poor guy for being like this as there is no other way to survive in the digital coin market. Bitcoin cash must follow the footsteps of the leader, bitcoin. I still remember how much chaos it caused when it was released and people really believed it could takeover the king. Also, the holder must Google about the address before proceeding.

After the hard fork it is not BCH you can either get BSV or BCHABC. So, even if insert the private key to any BCH wallet you need receive both BSV and BCHABC.

The first mistake OP did was to have bitcoin cash to begin with. It is a fake currency created by miners to make sure they can scam the traders as much as they can and scam the people who send and receive bitcoin (or btc cash) in order to profit even more.

These are corporations that only cares about how much money they make and they do not care about anything else, that is why they can't be really responsible if they end up scamming you and you end up with a lot less money than you started with, why would they be responsible for stealing from you, it is obvious and they are practically yelling it and you are still dealing with bitcoin cash which is close to a consent of your money being stolen and you being fine with it. Second part was just him sending it to wrong place.

i don't know where you are getting these number of characters from! bitcoin's mainnet addresses are between 25 and 34 characters long for version 1 base58 and they are 42 character long for bech32 SegWit addresses! Electrum can create both.

and like all the shitcoins that copied bitcoin, bcash is also copying everything so a bitcoin base58 address is a valid bcash address and if someone weren't careful they can make mistakes like OP

Would I say BCH is one of the coins I so much appreciate its move once market resuscitate, bitcoincash usually increase together with BTC and ETH and it moves almost faster than others...even if you buy it at low once market moves BCH will likely move, from experience it's one of the coins I love many things about it.

You are strange, making writing that is hard to believe. How could anyone send a BCH to the Electrum wallet. From the number of characters the wallet address is different.
Electrum wallet address is 98 characters.
The BCH wallet address is 42 characters.

So do not cheat with things that are not possible.

It's fine, thanks for the reply.

Yeah, it's a legit concern and should clear all the ambiguity from your previous answer, or in other words, it's about Electron Cash "security."
(Not about Electrum export/sweep, assumed that the environment is safe).

It's good to be skeptical in this space.

Electrum addresses are only specific to Bitcoin and not other coins.

But there are ways you can take to recover your Bitcoin Cash.

You only need to Export Private Key to the Electrum wallet, then download the Electroncash Wallet specifically for Bitcoin Cash (BCH).

You can import the private key that you exported earlier to electroncash. then you can get your bitcoin cash back and can move it to another wallet or exchange.

Sorry for the late reply: I have a week off work this week, so I'm afk most of the time.
To answer your question: it's about me not completely trusting electron cash's Dev team. Electrum is written by Thomasv, it has been community vetted so many times... Electron cash is a fork of electrum that has been modified. After these modifications, I don't feel it has been reviewed quite that much, so I don't feel secure importing keys or seeds into a wallet I don't fully trust, and keep on using said keys or seeds afterwards.

This is not an accusation tough...

This is new to me. Is it applied also for Electrum (BTC) to Electrum (BTC) export/import function?
Or is it about Electron Cash (BCH) security?

Thanks.

Excellent explanation, thank you.  I've done the same thing before, sending bitcoin to a BCH wallet by accident and I never bothered to try to recover it (it was a small amount).  Now I can't even remember which transaction it was or which wallet I sent it from, but I'm almost certain it was my electrum wallet. 

You might have been addressing op here, but you helped me out a lot.  Wish I had a merit to give you.

OK I THINK I GOT IT.
THANKS THANKS THANK.
I sent bch on coinbase (i hope, nothing is arriving yet)....  

Be careful with support groups. Always keep in mind your private key and seed phrases must remain private at all times. Never ever share them....

i'm comfused, that's sure! but i'm more calm 'cause anyway i saw my BCH in BCH wallet. so, they exist yet. Now, i'd like to be able to move the BCH again on CoinBase 'cause CoinBase is really semple to use.
in my BCH wallet i can read "this wallet can be only consult". Now i think that this is the moment that i have to import the key. but i found a support group on telegram of that wallet and maybe someone can help me in this way. i hope you'll stay tuned

bread_soul, did you ever send any Bitcoin to Electrum wallet where you send BitcoinCash? The easiest way to check if there's anything in your wallet is to check balance, and for that, your wallet needs to be sync (green orb bottom right).

But let's just say you never sent anything else then this BitcoinCash to that Electrum wallet, then just download ElectronCash from link mocacinno is posted and import private key from the address where you send BitcoinCash (in Electrum).

You can get private key if you click on Address -> Pick one where you send BitcoinCash -> Right-click on that address -> Click private key -> Copy/Paste that key in ElectronCash in process of creating a new wallet: Standard wallet -> Import private key or address.

1) In your case, it should be fairly trivial, since you already indicated you were a new user... If you've never purchased btc, and nobody every gave you any btc, your btc wallet should be empty.
Moreover, if you open your electrum wallet, the wallet used to generate the address you wrongfully funded, and you see no balance while still seeing a green button at the right bottom corner, the odds of a btc address in this wallet being funded are small.

2) if your btc wallet is empty, you don't need to create a new wallet

3) same answer, if you don't own any unspent outputs on the btc network, you don't need to sweep funds...

I think the main problem here is the confusion... You bought BCH, BCH is not the same as BTC. Both are forms of crypto currency, both use the same private key format, both share the same history,... But after BCH forked from BTC, both coins became seperate coins, with seperate networks and seperate wallet software.

Electrum is wallet software written to connect to BTC nodes. The BCH you purchased was used to fund an address on the BCH network. The thing is: if you used a BTC wallet to create a BTC address, you can still export the private key from this BTC wallet and import it in a BCH wallet.... That's all... Both networks are completely seperated. Spending unspent outputs on the BCH network will have no effect on the BTC network and vice versa.

I'm leaving the office now, if you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask them here... Either somebody else will try to answer them, or i'll answer them when i have some spare time during the weekend.

ehm, i'm stopping here already: "if your btc electrum wallet has funded addresses, make sure you create a new (empty) wallet and sweep all funds from your old wallet to the new wallet"
1. how can i know if my btc electrum wallet has funded addresses? i think yes, but how can i be sure? ===> OK IF IN BCH WALLET I PUT THE BTC ADRESS WALLET, I SEE MY BCH. SO, I DON'T LOSE IT, I THINK. GOOD. THIS IS A GOOD NEWS.
2. new empty wallet in electrum or in BCH's wallet?
3. the question is how can i sweep all funds if i don't see the funds?  

It's seem to hard. now i'm trying but you know, i got my first wallet yesterday... everything is new and avery words i hear is like arabic.

That's actually what i assumed  
don't be to hard on yourself tough... You're not the first one that buys the "wrong" coin, and you probably won't be the last one either...
That being said, BCH might have as much potential for increasing/decreasing in value as BTC... Personally i think BTC would be the safer bet, but that's just my gut feeling. It's perfectly possible that in a couple of months/years it becomes clear that holding on the BCH gave you more profit/less loss than holding on to BTC (i personally doubt this, but it's certainly possible).

As for your initial question: like i said: if your btc electrum wallet has funded addresses, make sure you create a new (empty) wallet and sweep all funds from your old wallet to the new wallet. Afterwards export the private key(s) from the addresses you mistakingly funded (electrum's gui should have an easy to use wizard to export the first 100? private key(s)) . Then use a BCH wallet and import the private key(s) belonging to the wrongfully funded address(es) and you should be able to spend your BCH.

I haven't tested this in a long time, but to the best of my knowledge, this should still be possible.

Clear. after all i am a member of "some newbies were more or less "lured" into buying BCH" 
Really thanks for your explanation! 
Now, i'll search the famous wallet, then maybe i'll change my BCH in BTC. if i'll find my BCH...

M.