Bitcoin, copyright, profit - page 2.

Kluge

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Quote from: schnell on March 04, 2012, 02:19:13 PM

You would still be charged with recieving stolen goods.
What is 'selling some IP'?
Not internet protocol address thingies?

I'm guessing he's talking about "Intellectual Property."

schnell

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You would still be charged with recieving stolen goods.
What is 'selling some IP'?
Not internet protocol address thingies?

kokjo

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: triplehelix on March 04, 2012, 01:40:11 PM

Quote from: nebulus on March 04, 2012, 11:59:48 AM

wow, so much for a productive discussion...

Bitcoin is outside of law, that's what makes it piracy currency... Not sure why people are even trying to argue this fact.
As far as my post goes, I was just trying to see if there were any intelligent people out there who would consider a thought experiment where bitcoin is involved in copyright infringement on multinational scale. Apparently not...

your basic and fundamental lack of understanding about what your trying to spark a discussion on, prevent any productive discussion, because you are offering nothing of value to discuss.

ARRRRRRR!!!

+1 ARRRRRR!!

Kluge

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I've made a good few purchases with BTC, but I'm not sure I've ever bought IP using BTC, though I've expressed interest in buying games from Steam. Arrr!

If the IP were stolen and then sold for BTC, damages would be sought in the FMV of BTC in USD (assuming you reside in the US). ARRR!

Just as if you bought something with gold, the IRS will still want their share based on the USD FMV value of that gold. IP owners would sue for damages just as if the transaction were done in USD. Arrr!

Bitcoins are a medium of exchange, and have a fair market value easily-calculable for almost every government currency. Arr.

Copyright law is still copyright law, and this thread is retarded. ARRRRR!

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Quote from: nebulus on March 04, 2012, 11:59:48 AM

wow, so much for a productive discussion...

Bitcoin is outside of law, that's what makes it piracy currency... Not sure why people are even trying to argue this fact.
As far as my post goes, I was just trying to see if there were any intelligent people out there who would consider a thought experiment where bitcoin is involved in copyright infringement on multinational scale. Apparently not...

your basic and fundamental lack of understanding about what your trying to spark a discussion on, prevent any productive discussion, because you are offering nothing of value to discuss.

ARRRRRRR!!!

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Quote from: nebulus on March 04, 2012, 11:59:48 AM

wow, so much for a productive discussion...

Bitcoin is outside of law, that's what makes it piracy currency... Not sure why people are even trying to argue this fact.
As far as my post goes, I was just trying to see if there were any intelligent people out there who would consider a thought experiment where bitcoin is involved in copyright infringement on multinational scale. Apparently not...

WTF?

Piracy currency? What's that?

nebulus

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... it only gets better...

wow, so much for a productive discussion...

Bitcoin is outside of law, that's what makes it piracy currency... Not sure why people are even trying to argue this fact.
As far as my post goes, I was just trying to see if there were any intelligent people out there who would consider a thought experiment where bitcoin is involved in copyright infringement on multinational scale. Apparently not...

triplehelix

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Quote from: kokjo on March 04, 2012, 11:45:13 AM

Quote from: triplehelix on March 03, 2012, 08:46:10 PM

Quote from: nebulus on March 03, 2012, 07:27:02 PM

Bitcoin is some kind of piracy currency

only if you wear an eye patch while you make the transaction, and say, "arrrrrr" after its sent.

I do that! Don't everyone not do that, arrr?

yeah, my wife looks at me funny when i slip into my peg leg, but she's a noob and doesn't understand the intricacies of high finance.

kokjo

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: triplehelix on March 03, 2012, 08:46:10 PM

Quote from: nebulus on March 03, 2012, 07:27:02 PM

Bitcoin is some kind of piracy currency

only if you wear an eye patch while you make the transaction, and say, "arrrrrr" after its sent.

I do that! Don't everyone not do that, arrr?

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Quote from: nebulus on March 03, 2012, 07:27:02 PM

Bitcoin is some kind of piracy currency

Wake up ! State currencies are being hijacked by banksters and you call bitcoin what ??

Dictators all over the world use the same reasoning: as long as they are in power, there is no chaos !
Oh really ..I do not want that kind of order. We have lived under the dictatorship of the "GNP" for too long.

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Quote from: nebulus on March 03, 2012, 07:27:02 PM

Bitcoin is some kind of piracy currency

only if you wear an eye patch while you make the transaction, and say, "arrrrrr" after its sent.

DeathAndTaxes

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Gerald Davis

If I buy stolen IP w/ gold coins is it legal?
What about purchasing drugs with guns? Is that legal?

You belief that something is only illegal if it involves legal tender is false and if you think about it absurd.

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... it only gets better...

Bitcoin is some kind of piracy currency

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So, you're outside radio shack, you see someone break the window and jump out with a stereo. You buy this immediately with bitcoins. Bitcoins are not recognized, so it's not a crime to buy that stereo, right ? (I'm not comparing the stereo with software, but just putting it here for sake of simplicity).

Hum.. do you even see how wrong your thinking is ? The last thing we want, is for bitcoin to become some kind of a piracy currency, that will only draw negative attention.

So if you think of starting a service offering copyrighted material for bitcoins, look at MegaUpload, the US govt. cracked down on them pretty hard. And they probably will once you're drawing sufficient attention..

nebulus

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I was thinking about a scenario where someone sells some IP for bitcoins. Is this still considered a legal offense if the IP is covered by trademark/copyright? Since countries do not recognize BTC as a currency, doesn't that make 'making profit from BTC' impossible? (considering relevant legal definitions). It seems to me like IP for BTC is a very exploitable area. Obviously, bitcoin is multinational and there is no unanimous copyright law for the world as well as some kind of enforcer. I have heard about some cases where China has "violated" a lot of US copyright laws and US can't do anything about it. Has anyone else ever thought of that? I am interested to hear from both fronts: pro and anti-copyright. Looking forward to your insight.

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