Bitcoin core is only programmed by satoshi?

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Quote from: bravehearth0319 on February 23, 2017, 09:01:01 AM

In my opinion, Bitcoin is the first decentralized digital currency, and it is a kind of payment in different aspects of business. According to the bitcoin experts here bitcoin also was invented by the group of programmers under the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. Correct me if I'm wrong.

no satoshi was one person. but satoshi didnt work alone.
only one person used the satoshi pseudonym. but that does not mean that he wrote every line of code and invented all the concepts that built bitcoin

it was a patchwork of many concepts from many people. but satoshi as one person pieced it together. he then got other people like hal finney, sirius etc to help him refine it. but hal and sirius and others did not use the satoshi pseudonym

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Quote from: coin revolution on February 17, 2017, 06:29:36 PM

Did Satoshi develop the bitcoin system alone? There are now more than one person on the Bitcoin core developer team. Did Satoshi get help or support from someone while developing this system? Did Bitcoin core software write alone?

In my opinion, Bitcoin is the first decentralized digital currency, and it is a kind of payment in different aspects of business. According to the bitcoin experts here bitcoin also was invented by the group of programmers under the name of Satoshi Nakamoto. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 08:17:48 PM

Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).*
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).**
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

Satoshi never contributed to Core (that we are aware of).
1st Client: Bitcoin-Satoshi
2nd Client: Bitcoin QT
3rd Client: Bitcoin Core
Satoshi may not have contributed to QT either.

The following should help answer some questions:
https://bitcoin.org/en/version-history

^ this is the most factually accurate.
just to add a few clarifications
*satoshi did inform his 'references' that he was developing something that used parts of their concepts, though they did not really get back to him.

**by February 2009 there were a handfull of devs helping out. (hal finney was there within the first week of bitcoins public release in January)
by the end of 2009 there were over a dozen+

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may be the logic and algorithm behind the core bitcoin is developed by satoshi because ideas and logics are generally invented by a single person and might be later on discussed with his fellow mates and further developed the system. and writing of the program is not a very big task as algorithm only matter more for programmers.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others)

Don't think so. Satoshi cited prior work that he used, but I'm not aware there was direct contact/input from those people.

Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).

Quote from: coin revolution on February 23, 2017, 06:22:02 AM

So Satoshi did not code. The existing pieces wisely joined together. Satoshi said what he had to do and put out the idea. Later, programmers adopting this idea undertook the task of coding. Is it correct?

Not what I remember about this. The code for the original Bitcoin 0.1 prototype was structured in a way that made certain modifications to the code more difficult, and this has always been attributed to Satoshi's programming inexperience. Satoshi got coding help for version 0.2, but not for the 0.1 original AFAIK

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

So Satoshi did not code. The existing pieces wisely joined together. Satoshi said what he had to do and put out the idea. Later, programmers adopting this idea undertook the task of coding. Is it correct?

Is it possible for a single person to combine all the pieces? Does not the Bitcoin system require expertise in different areas?

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Quote from: coin revolution on February 17, 2017, 06:29:36 PM

Did Satoshi develop the bitcoin system alone? There are now more than one person on the Bitcoin core developer team. Did Satoshi get help or support from someone while developing this system? Did Bitcoin core software write alone?

I believe that Satoshi is not a single individual but a group of individuals. The reason they hide their identity at first is they are in fear of what will be the outcome of their project and what will be the reaction of the government and state upon facing their currency. They are afraid to get into jail for creating this kind of currency. But until now they did not expose themselves for unknown reasons even though bitcoin is being accepted by people. Though there are others who join the fray but the original group of bitcoin core developers are still hiding.

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For bitcoin to advance there should be continous development,so far bitcoin have achieved this goal because of the many people coming in to contribute to it's evolvement,I think Bitcoin is still in good hands,with so many people coming in and many organization adopting Bitcoin.

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Quote from: coin revolution on February 17, 2017, 06:29:36 PM

Did Satoshi develop the bitcoin system alone? There are now more than one person on the Bitcoin core developer team. Did Satoshi get help or support from someone while developing this system? Did Bitcoin core software write alone?

We don't know if Satoshi worked on the first release of the Bitcoin software and white paper alone. We do know he was inspired by other similar ideas to Bitcoin, like Dr. Adam Back's hashcash. Shortly after releasing the white paper and software other developers began to help. Gavin Andresen was the first really significant contributor to work alongside Satoshi. After Satoshi left the scene Gavin essentially took over a technical leadership role, which Satoshi had already asked him to do more of. Eventually Gavin stepped back from full-time development and Core, which was based on the earliest software releases, became the most dominant full-node software.

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Quote from: arcanaaerobics on February 17, 2017, 08:25:37 PM

Quote from: CryptoDatabase on February 17, 2017, 07:16:41 PM

More than likely Satoshi obtained the source code for E-Cash and then 'created' Bitcoin.

Bitcoin was not the first cryptocurrency as so many falsely believe so the odds of him writing this program all by himself is slim.

It was not the first cryptocurrency but it certainly was and still is the most successful one while all it's predecessors have failed.
All the ones after it's creation should dedicate themselves to bitcoin for their own success.

BTC is getting more and more centralized. Only the rich can afford to mine it effectively and before long only those with massive storage capabilities will be able to hold a copy of its blockchain as its already 100GB+ in size.

I predict that within the next 10 years there will only be a very small portion of people still using BTC Core as most will be using web wallets or electrum to hold their coins.

The last thing coins need to do is model themselves after BTC.

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Quote from: CryptoDatabase on February 17, 2017, 07:16:41 PM

More than likely Satoshi obtained the source code for E-Cash and then 'created' Bitcoin.

Bitcoin was not the first cryptocurrency as so many falsely believe so the odds of him writing this program all by himself is slim.

It was not the first cryptocurrency but it certainly was and still is the most successful one while all it's predecessors have failed.
All the ones after it's creation should dedicate themselves to bitcoin for their own success.

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Quote from: jackg on February 17, 2017, 07:26:59 PM

Quote from: bamboylee on February 17, 2017, 07:14:06 PM

Afaik we cannot still confirm if satoshi is a single person or an entity for a group of person. So we cannot categorically answer your questions. But I think to create a software this complex, you will need some help either on coding, math, or implementation.

The current belief is that satoshi nakamoto is a university researcher Dr Craig Wright. This means that he would have recieved help from fellow professors and could always have done it without them noticing if he needed to

Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

That's quite interesting that there was something used before Bitcoin Core. Do we know the name of that software or have archives of it anywhere?
Also, I don't think satoshi is contributing on the core anymore.

Satoshi never contributed to Core (that we are aware of).
1st Client: Bitcoin-Satoshi
2nd Client: Bitcoin QT
3rd Client: Bitcoin Core
Satoshi may not have contributed to QT either.

What were the release dates of these (if they are accessible)?
As this was released as open-source software, it is uncertain who has control of it and at what point due to quite a few developers working on this software in total over the time of bitcoin's lifetime.

The following should help answer some questions:
https://bitcoin.org/en/version-history

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Quote from: bamboylee on February 17, 2017, 07:14:06 PM

Afaik we cannot still confirm if satoshi is a single person or an entity for a group of person. So we cannot categorically answer your questions. But I think to create a software this complex, you will need some help either on coding, math, or implementation.

The current belief is that satoshi nakamoto is a university researcher Dr Craig Wright. This means that he would have recieved help from fellow professors and could always have done it without them noticing if he needed to

Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 07:01:32 PM

Quote from: jackg on February 17, 2017, 06:52:39 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

That's quite interesting that there was something used before Bitcoin Core. Do we know the name of that software or have archives of it anywhere?

Also, I don't think satoshi is contributing on the core anymore.

Satoshi never contributed to Core (that we are aware of).
1st Client: Bitcoin-Satoshi
2nd Client: Bitcoin QT
3rd Client: Bitcoin Core

Satoshi may not have contributed to QT either.

What were the release dates of these (if they are accessible)?
As this was released as open-source software, it is uncertain who has control of it and at what point due to quite a few developers working on this software in total over the time of bitcoin's lifetime.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

That is quite accurate enough. I support this version, so bitcoin core was create by satoshi, but very primitive version of it. Like alpha version.
True development beign done by many talented programmers (bitcoin code is really complicated).

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More than likely Satoshi obtained the source code for E-Cash and then 'created' Bitcoin.

Bitcoin was not the first cryptocurrency as so many falsely believe so the odds of him writing this program all by himself is slim.

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Afaik we cannot still confirm if satoshi is a single person or an entity for a group of person. So we cannot categorically answer your questions. But I think to create a software this complex, you will need some help either on coding, math, or implementation.

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Quote from: jackg on February 17, 2017, 06:52:39 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

That's quite interesting that there was something used before Bitcoin Core. Do we know the name of that software or have archives of it anywhere?

Also, I don't think satoshi is contributing on the core anymore.

Satoshi never contributed to Core (that we are aware of).
1st Client: Bitcoin-Satoshi
2nd Client: Bitcoin QT
3rd Client: Bitcoin Core

Satoshi may not have contributed to QT either.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on February 17, 2017, 06:46:58 PM

Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

That's quite interesting that there was something used before Bitcoin Core. Do we know the name of that software or have archives of it anywhere?

Also, I don't think satoshi is contributing on the core anymore.

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Legend is that Satoshi worked on the puzzle alone.
Then later, Satoshi contacted others for input that contributed to the whitepaper (Wai and others).
After the whitepaper was released, one other individual came along to help Satoshi build the software (Sirius).
After the foundation was established around mid 2010, many others appeared to help contribute (Gavin and others).

Bitcoin Core is the most recent version of the software, starting around 2013.

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He first published the Bitcoin whitepaper ( https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf ) via the cryptography mailing list, back in 2008.
Then he released the first version of the Bitcoin client himself (2009) and after that other people started joining in.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I've got the gist of it.

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