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March 11, 2021, 12:27:56 AM
My only regret with btc is I am now 64. Would love to be 26 right now.

At 26 I would be 50-70% BTC the rest in cash. As I would have a different investment setup.

that mean you just buy btc and hold it, not looking for some altcoin that has potential to grow more than x200 in few year ?
or invest on new ico or buying top altcoin in marketcap ?

Remember that age is just a number, 64 years old has a long life ahead of him, if you have a young mind you will not have problems, as long as you are in the Bitcoin market you will be able to learn much more, the wisdom you have now is not the same I was 26 years old, and if you are a hodler you have a good chance of seeing Bitcoin with a high price.

$ 54k has already been reached, we could see an advance to a new ATH tomorrow, why not? everything is possible in Crypto.

yes I understand I also still listen to a lot of advice from people who have been in the market for a long time, that's why I asked why but I wonder why everyone who is old prefers to invest in bitcoin, I mean in altcoin you can also make high increases, and also when btc reached ath some altcoins also reached new ath.
well i am asking you, did you hold some altcoin for longterm ?
legendary
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March 09, 2021, 08:52:16 PM
My only regret with btc is I am now 64. Would love to be 26 right now.

At 26 I would be 50-70% BTC the rest in cash. As I would have a different investment setup.

that mean you just buy btc and hold it, not looking for some altcoin that has potential to grow more than x200 in few year ?
or invest on new ico or buying top altcoin in marketcap ?

Remember that age is just a number, 64 years old has a long life ahead of him, if you have a young mind you will not have problems, as long as you are in the Bitcoin market you will be able to learn much more, the wisdom you have now is not the same I was 26 years old, and if you are a hodler you have a good chance of seeing Bitcoin with a high price.

$ 54k has already been reached, we could see an advance to a new ATH tomorrow, why not? everything is possible in Crypto.
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March 09, 2021, 11:01:59 AM
My only regret with btc is I am now 64. Would love to be 26 right now.

At 26 I would be 50-70% BTC the rest in cash. As I would have a different investment setup.

that mean you just buy btc and hold it, not looking for some altcoin that has potential to grow more than x200 in few year ?
or invest on new ico or buying top altcoin in marketcap ?
sr. member
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March 09, 2021, 10:36:43 AM
Exactly, your investments should be directly related to your age for risk management.  Recovery time is much easier for the under 30 group vs over 50 group.
I liked your BTC to Gold comparison too btw. Silver the next ten years I believe will outperform Gold however as the demand from electric car industry continues.  
I believe recovery time is not important considering it is very difficult for people to find money twice. If I ever end up with 500k dollars today, and I spend it on something that is idiotic and lose it, there is a big chance I may never find that kind of money ever again. I am not under 30 but I am just 30, so I can say that I could be in the group that suppose to recover faster, and I can say that it is not that simple.

Specially in the current world we live in, people who have money can make more easily while people who do not have money could end up with nothing because the system is built to make poor people keep being poor whereas rich people stay rich. This is why if you ever end up with money, no matter what age you are in, just keep it safe and never let it go because that is the money that you might have to look at for the rest of your life.

Risk is fine.

But it varies person to person.

A single 25 year man has 40 to 60 years to revcover his losses.
This person could be 25k safe 75k risky I used  100 total as he has had not the time to make a lot to invest.



I am 63 I have 7 to 25 years to gain back my losses. so for me to be 300k safe and 50k risky works.

Other factors wife and kids.

My kids are dead so I do not need to save for them. I am looking to cash out down the road at 70 years old or 7 years from now.

But as I said I have 300k safe and 50k at risk.

I would hope the risk money grows to 150k-200k in 7 years. Gives me 450-500k for my older years

If all coins die I still have the 300k safe money.

BTW I do not have 300k safe and 50k at risk but my safe to risk is 6 to 1 ratio.

im sorry for your kid. but i will asking if you are 26 now are you still put 6:1 ratio for risk investment or you will give more chance to grow as much as you can for your portfolio?

because you know if i have 1000$ i will just save 100 or 200 and use the rest at the risk as a investment.
but its not like im buying some coin and hold it for long time,its more like i find info about anything than can give opportunity to me,like follow IEO/IDO/IFO, or somenew altcoin that will increase likex10,x20 or more, because holding and just watch it for long time its hard to do, i will get tempted and panic when market rise or fall more than 40%, and from correction few day ago when market drop more than 30%, i lose my 50% portfolio Cry.
most i am lose because use swap from dex bsc in pancakeswap,julswap,and other.
that why i am asking you, hope you can give me some advice  Cheesy
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March 09, 2021, 10:43:29 AM
My only regret with btc is I am now 64. Would love to be 26 right now.

At 26 I would be 50-70% BTC the rest in cash. As I would have a different investment setup.
legendary
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February 27, 2021, 01:55:53 PM
Exactly, your investments should be directly related to your age for risk management.  Recovery time is much easier for the under 30 group vs over 50 group.
I liked your BTC to Gold comparison too btw. Silver the next ten years I believe will outperform Gold however as the demand from electric car industry continues. 
I believe recovery time is not important considering it is very difficult for people to find money twice. If I ever end up with 500k dollars today, and I spend it on something that is idiotic and lose it, there is a big chance I may never find that kind of money ever again. I am not under 30 but I am just 30, so I can say that I could be in the group that suppose to recover faster, and I can say that it is not that simple.

Specially in the current world we live in, people who have money can make more easily while people who do not have money could end up with nothing because the system is built to make poor people keep being poor whereas rich people stay rich. This is why if you ever end up with money, no matter what age you are in, just keep it safe and never let it go because that is the money that you might have to look at for the rest of your life.

Risk is fine.

But it varies person to person.

A single 25 year man has 40 to 60 years to revcover his losses.
This person could be 25k safe 75k risky I used  100 total as he has had not the time to make a lot to invest.



I am 63 I have 7 to 25 years to gain back my losses. so for me to be 300k safe and 50k risky works.

Other factors wife and kids.

My kids are dead so I do not need to save for them. I am looking to cash out down the road at 70 years old or 7 years from now.

But as I said I have 300k safe and 50k at risk.

I would hope the risk money grows to 150k-200k in 7 years. Gives me 450-500k for my older years

If all coins die I still have the 300k safe money.

BTW I do not have 300k safe and 50k at risk but my safe to risk is 6 to 1 ratio.
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February 27, 2021, 01:34:17 PM
Exactly, your investments should be directly related to your age for risk management.  Recovery time is much easier for the under 30 group vs over 50 group.
I liked your BTC to Gold comparison too btw. Silver the next ten years I believe will outperform Gold however as the demand from electric car industry continues. 
I believe recovery time is not important considering it is very difficult for people to find money twice. If I ever end up with 500k dollars today, and I spend it on something that is idiotic and lose it, there is a big chance I may never find that kind of money ever again. I am not under 30 but I am just 30, so I can say that I could be in the group that suppose to recover faster, and I can say that it is not that simple.

Specially in the current world we live in, people who have money can make more easily while people who do not have money could end up with nothing because the system is built to make poor people keep being poor whereas rich people stay rich. This is why if you ever end up with money, no matter what age you are in, just keep it safe and never let it go because that is the money that you might have to look at for the rest of your life.
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February 25, 2021, 04:40:08 AM
#99


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When married for 35 years and the 'safe' money is all in my wife's name I am perfectly happy with 300 k in fed bonds at 1.1% interest.

As I can easily justify holding 1 btc and stacking to it via mining.



 Exactly, your investments should be directly related to your age for risk management.  Recovery time is much easier for the under 30 group vs over 50 group.
I liked your BTC to Gold comparison too btw. Silver the next ten years I believe will outperform Gold however as the demand from electric car industry continues. 
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February 24, 2021, 04:43:42 AM
#98
Well , we know  how stupid many of accounts here , they don't even think before posting instead they are just relying on their
own understanding on the matter.

dear smart reatim Thank you for the words, I take it as a compliment but have you read it at the beginning and immediately claim other people are stupid? Unfortunately you are far away if there is beside me I will definitely punch your face.
he said that he will reach 70 years old when 2030 so I assumed his age this year and saw his account named philipma1957, so I thought that he was born in 1957 and that's true I calculated his age in 2030 will be over 70 years.
have you seen that?
Of course not because you are busy telling other people to be stupid without reading the beginning of this post.
STT
legendary
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February 23, 2021, 07:40:47 AM
#97
When one thing is sold you must also question what is being bought, there is no simple state where you only sell something.    Thats only the point I'd try to make to avoid being too biased especially now with some panic for the longs.  Dollar index isnt rising today, mostly BTC is priced in dollars though also various FIAT etc.
  We dont yet have a harsh pullback environment imo, we have profit taking and a big frothy price is going to sell off sometimes and I dont call it a crash tbh.   Im really not thinking this is whats happening, someone else will have to explain that to me.



A larger move forces me to post the wider context.   Last trader I watched mentioned 48.5k but we are below that;  also remember 4hr daily and weekly bars can trade below then recover and we may yet to recover is a scenario to consider on 4hr daily and weekly time frames.
  So 42k area is weekly average I think its quite reasonable as a target downside, i.e. possible bottom
legendary
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February 23, 2021, 05:00:05 AM
#96
If you like bitcoin just buy it or do whatever with it, if you dislike it, all you have to do is not buying it

True. No one if forces anyone to buy or sell anything. I think this is just a state of mind. These kind of people will always complain how something is not worth buying because it is too expensive, or not worth doing something. They see only negative in everything and poison everything around their negative.

what does anyone gain from saying "bitcoin will be zero one day", so? Like what do they think we should do with that info?

I would understand if someone famous and reputed would say that Bitcoin is a bubble and gives some explanations why. That person could speculate with such announcement. But reading from a newbie or no name that Bitcoin is a bubble does not make sense.
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February 23, 2021, 02:13:41 AM
#95
I also doubt. Not everyone can survive the age above 70 year, i hope you still alive until 2030 sir, and comeback here to see what will happen Smiley
You arent God to give out those lifespan yet we can still really get over 70 depending on how we do handle out our body well while we are still young.
and that's only 9 years from now as years are passing so fast now
and i believe that Yeah He'll be here upto that time comes

You dont even know on whats his/her age at the moment.  Cheesy
Well , we know  how stupid many of accounts here , they don't even think before posting instead they are just relying on their
own understanding on the matter.
When it comes to crash then its not really that impossible.We have seen worst in the past and doesnt mean that we wont be seeing it again.
Somehow if we do base up on the current condition in the market in terms of adoption then its on a different level but doesnt mean it
will give out guarantee.
We have seen so many of that so what does it matter if we will be having another one ? crash will happen but increase will come after , lets take this as in positive way.
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February 23, 2021, 12:56:46 AM
#94
You arent God to give out those lifespan yet we can still really get over 70 depending on how we do handle out our body well while we are still young.
yes i know but seen from the current condition of the earth maybe only about 25% of the total population can survive over 70 years.

You dont even know on whats his/her age at the moment.  Cheesy
his age now is 63years, he born in 1957 and if wait until 2030 he will 73years old Cheesy

When it comes to crash then its not really that impossible.We have seen worst in the past and doesnt mean that we wont be seeing it again.
Somehow if we do base up on the current condition in the market in terms of adoption then its on a different level but doesnt mean it
will give out guarantee.

I know that's likely what he said crashes and inflation will always happen.
MiF
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February 22, 2021, 05:19:05 PM
#93
Just like the subject says, the more Bitcoin goes up this bull run, the most correction it will have, people who thinks this will go up without stopping are very naive.
This is not the time to buy, don't be a fool to buy at 50K.


That doesn't sound fool for those wealthy people who has nothing to do about their money. They think of buying while hype continues to become trending and popularity of bitcoin also grows higher. Whales barely see a good future, even if $50k is somehow expensive, that's not even a problem because they had a lot of money to risk.
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February 22, 2021, 03:00:02 PM
#92
I also doubt. Not everyone can survive the age above 70 year, i hope you still alive until 2030 sir, and comeback here to see what will happen Smiley
You arent God to give out those lifespan yet we can still really get over 70 depending on how we do handle out our body well while we are still young.

You dont even know on whats his/her age at the moment.  Cheesy

When it comes to crash then its not really that impossible.We have seen worst in the past and doesnt mean that we wont be seeing it again.
Somehow if we do base up on the current condition in the market in terms of adoption then its on a different level but doesnt mean it
will give out guarantee.
legendary
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February 22, 2021, 01:00:20 PM
#91
Strange to read that topic started speak about correction, but named his topic name as "bitcoin crash". Also I've noticed that he is quite negative to bitcoin in his posts. According to him, bitcoin is a bubble it will crash and we are all fools if we buy right now.

Under the word "crash" I understand bitcoin price dropping to 0, or people creates a replacement for bitcoin. So far there no signs of any of that. Why nobody compares bitcoin to a spring, instead of bubble? Why no one thinks that the spring squeezes just to shot up ? 
Unfortunately there are tons of people like that, even peter schiff who is a very famous gold bull keeps saying "yes bitcoin reached 50k, who knows maybe it will do 100k but eventually it will be zero whereas gold will always go up" like even when they are saying something "nice" they have to say it will never be something good, there are tons of people like that. Obviously speaking we can't always have people who are bull about bitcoin, I am not expecting the whole world to get into bitcoin and buy some, but I also do not understand why they are spending time being bearish on bitcoin neither.

If you like bitcoin just buy it or do whatever with it, if you dislike it, all you have to do is not buying it, but to talk about how bad it is doesn't make sense to me at all, what does anyone gain from saying "bitcoin will be zero one day", so? Like what do they think we should do with that info?
STT
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February 22, 2021, 06:58:35 AM
#90
You've got to look at both sides not just an opinion of crypto but the larger market of dollar, the denominator in this market.   So the OP sentence of must crash is the exact words of what occurs with dollar, excessive debt and the fact the world can use any FIAT not just one countries hence a large alteration to supply and demand.   That's quite likely, I don't know its inevitable and because we have that background it means crypto is considered opposite and unlikely to crash as its an alternative.   I consider the whole situation volatile but also unpredictable and few saw this rise as certain, I mostly expect a repeat of previous waves in price action.
legendary
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February 22, 2021, 03:02:25 AM
#89
Strange to read that topic started speak about correction, but named his topic name as "bitcoin crash". Also I've noticed that he is quite negative to bitcoin in his posts. According to him, bitcoin is a bubble it will crash and we are all fools if we buy right now.

Under the word "crash" I understand bitcoin price dropping to 0, or people creates a replacement for bitcoin. So far there no signs of any of that. Why nobody compares bitcoin to a spring, instead of bubble? Why no one thinks that the spring squeezes just to shot up ? 
hero member
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February 22, 2021, 03:00:29 AM
#88
It looks like this is not a bull's peak yet because the peak will go up many times over from history.
at the beginning of 2017 bitcoin was only worth 1000 $ then at the end of the year it rose to 19200 $.
so earlier this year just be opener maybe at its peak will be 300k $ or more,
this is just my prediction.
2018-early 2020 that market is in dip, most crypto holders are expecting the worse but as the halving takes place, it gives big hopes for everyone and we have this unexpected moment in crypto.
I believe that a market crash is inevitable but the same as the bullish can do. if we think that this year 2021 is just like a thing we experience last 2017, I don't think so. I see the sustainable growing market this year but that was too far hitting $300k, honestly. $100k is close to possible.
legendary
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February 22, 2021, 02:40:57 AM
#87
It is not "inevitable", that is not something we should be informing people with all the time. I have seen "crash incoming" things since price was 20k, it hasn't come and it may never come. I am not saying there will never be a crash neither, I can't know that but I (and you and anyone else) can't know if there is a guaranteed crash coming neither, it is not going to be guaranteed. So that means is that crash may or may not happen, that is the true situation, that "inevitable" makes people scared to go into bitcoin and buy more crypto with their fiat and when they are scared to buy more crypto that makes crypto not go up and the price of course crashes when people do not go into crypto, so by saying it will crash, you make it crash.

However if these huge companies keep pumping up money into bitcoin, there may not be a crash for a long long time, maybe ever, small corrections at 20-30% drop levels but that's about it.
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