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Topic: Bitcoin evangelist Michael Saylor says crypto regulations would speed adoption - page 3. (Read 570 times)

legendary
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Saylor is a genius. He's right. If you haven't watched "The Saylor Series" yet, you should now.

He is smart but if we believe in what he's saying he can wait years for this investment to bring profit, but can he really? He's just a human with all our vulnerabilities. Say he becomes sick, or his child, and money at hand won't be able to cover it, say there's a way and he has to do some cuts, or maybe he finds an even better investment, goes into debt, there's a lot of options. I tend not to put people on pedestals too fast. We had so many bitcoin lovers like McAfee or Musk, or more recently Trace Mayer, who turned to pumping shitcoins. I'd hate to see Saylor do the same.
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Depends on who you are asking and talking about adoption, for example for anyone who really cares about privacy and wants to have always anonymous transactions regulation won't be something favorite, surely. But for any government and big organization regulation can certainly speed up the adoption or better to say in their own ideas regulation is necessary for the next step on bitcoin adoption. However, even after these regulations and legalizations, there will be many people unhappy because of the regulations because of the possible limits.
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Despite some problem people may face, I would agree too that regulation would speed up the adoption. India has recently forced users to pay 30% taxes on their gain. I guess this is better for us though the taxes are quite high. There will be people who didn’t know/own cryptocurrency but now they know. Institutions now have some way to invest in cryptocurrency. I'm sure most institutional investors will look for diversity & cryptocurrency is definitely is better choice IMO. They wouldn’t invest in cryptocurrency ever, had the rules not applied in India. Well, for widely adopted, regulation is good.
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Is this starting to enter the concept of centralization that we are not aware of with the regulations on the exchange. If it fully impacts on massive adoption, then how will the impact of government control in controlling crypto exchanges will make it easier for institutions to dominate the market. Adoption is important, but setting policies that will only narrow down privacy is definitely not good for crypto users.
I do not know if what is the difference of this new regulation compare to what we have now on exchanges but let us hope that it was not too much that it can cause more harm than good.

There are countries and people that are waiting for bitcoin to be regulated first before they will use it but do we really need to sacrifice some important features just for their sake? But who are they, we do not even know them very well. They are the one's that needs to adjust and not us that are already here because they are new on this scene. The current state of adoption is doing fine with the current system that we have now. No need to rush and risk what we already have built.
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I agree with him, actually. Most of the mainstream public will want the safety of government regulations before it accepts Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. Said regulation will make the industry more popular. Whether the actual industry will remain the same, however, is another matter altogether.
legendary
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He somewhat has a point. I'm guessing that some institutional investors are very undecided with bitcoin/crypto is due to the regulatory uncertainty. Simply having clearer regulations regardless if positive or negative will give them a better assessment if bitcoin would be a "good" investment or not risk/reward-wise.

I'm afraid it is more complicated than that. Basically I'd say it depends on the regulations and how restrictive and terrible they are. For example Japan and El Salvador both regulated bitcoin and that led to an increase in the speed of adoption. But if we see restrictive regulations as US loves to implement and they end up with huge taxation, a lot of nonsense intrusive KYC and things like that, it could actually slow down adoption, at least in US.

But as I said things are a lot more complicated than that. The more restrictions could actually backfire and it could push more people towards bitcoin specially as US dollar keeps tanking and inflation soars. If we see another recession then bitcoin adoption could also go through the roof with US dollar value dumping harder than ever.

More regulation although I don't like it will allow certain people to invest who now cannot.
There are a lot of funds / brokers / banks / etc. that cannot invest at the moment due to the way their internal regulations are written.
It's a policy and risk management issue.
Before the XYZ retirement fund can invest in this or that, they have to have certain things in place. If not, they have to pass on the investment.
Nothing more then that.

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Saylor is a genius. He's right. If you haven't watched "The Saylor Series" yet, you should now.
hero member
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Am not surprised, it is bound to happen sooner or later, although doing this completely negate the narrative of privacy but it will gain widespread adoption according to Saylor.

Now the question is which one is most pressing! Remain in the original narrative without regulations and no adoption or change the narrative, give up privacy and gain adoption? Since we can't have it both ways, there is opportunity cost,

Adoption will be achieved but at the cost of something also valuable, and from the above posts, it seems the majority already agrees to regulations.
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Don’t know, I’m little skeptical about it. Many of fellow peeps here saying it’s positive thing to regulate the crypto but I don’t know I’m really against it. This is straight away failing the principle of Mr. Satoshi and his vision of freedom.

We have to come to terms with the fact that the old spirit that lived the first few years of Bitcoin's existence is increasingly fading and disappearing because people like Saylor have a completely different philosophy on how to use Bitcoin. Imagine a situation where the world's 100 largest companies buy 100 000 BTC and we have 10 million BTC locked as a store of value - for some it would probably be a dream come true because the price would surely skyrocket, but for small people who have not yet discovered Bitcoin, it meant they would pay a high price to get into that game.

If we want the crypto regulated then it would be just another payment system or stock or share market. It won’t benefit us. We can’t risk it with regulations. This will literally push the crypto currencies in the black hole and sucking all the good characteristics of bitcoin.

It is inevitable that if we want an adaptation that must happen in regulation, and the second option is to move underground and show the governments of the world the middle finger. However, there is a third option to consider, and in this scenario, Bitcoin may play the role of a Trojan horse that will cause significant changes within the existing financial system - but in order to do so, it must be positioned there. This would mean that some battles are fought and must be lost in order to win the war in the end.
hero member
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Don’t know, I’m little skeptical about it. Many of fellow peeps here saying it’s positive thing to regulate the crypto but I don’t know I’m really against it. This is straight away failing the principle of Mr. Satoshi and his vision of freedom.

If we want the crypto regulated then it would be just another payment system or stock or share market. It won’t benefit us. We can’t risk it with regulations. This will literally push the crypto currencies in the black hole and sucking all the good characteristics of bitcoin.
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Tighter government crypto regulations would actually be a positive catalyst for bitcoin, MicroStrategy co-founder and CEO Michael Saylor told CNBC on Wednesday.

"Additional regulatory clarity from the [Biden] administration is going to benefit bitcoin and accelerate institutional adoption of that asset," Saylor said on "Squawk on the Street," stressing as a major bitcoin believer and holder he's looking for "clear, bright line definitions of digital property versus a digital security versus a digital currency and the operating rules of the digital exchange."

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Gary Gensler said last month that the agency is planning to crack down on Wall Street, including by creating and enacting rules for cryptocurrency markets. Back in August, Gensler said Congress needs to grant the SEC additional powers to regulate crypto.

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Is this where we are heading! Without regulations from the government, btc will never be able to achieve the so desirable adoption, if people like Saylor is publicly calling for regulations it means soon we will witness it, what do you guys think would happen, and what about btc maxis who are strongly in support of decentralization and privacy, will they be willing to give that regulation in other to use btc?

Like it or not but in the end the world must accept that bitcoin is a form of progress, and in that case the countries of the world will not be able to refuse it, now we just need a real example of a complete bitcoin adoption like salvador did, in my opinion if later salvador decision to adopt bitcoin has a positive impact on the country's economy, of course many other countries will imitate and follow the steps taken by salvador today, so that in the end adopting bitcoin in the future will become a necessity for countries in the world .
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He's not wrong. More regulation means more adoption means more stability means more adoption and so on. BTC has surpassed it's inital concept and has become much more than it's fully autonomous decentralised self once was. That dosen't mean all of crypto needs to get on that path, but for BTC it seems there is no turning back. But regulation does not mean one side will inforce restrictions on the other. It just means that a common ground will need to be established.
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It's his opinion and I remember before the pandemic and the bull run came. Many have said that it's the institutions that will drive the prices up and it seems that they're correct on it.

There's nothing to worry about decentralization. It's still going to be remain and just as what they've said, the regulators are going to focus to the businesses mainly the exchanges which will give confidence to the other institutional investors that haven't invested yet.
legendary
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Tighter government crypto regulations would actually be a positive catalyst for bitcoin, MicroStrategy co-founder and CEO Michael Saylor told CNBC on Wednesday.

"Additional regulatory clarity from the [Biden] administration is going to benefit bitcoin and accelerate institutional adoption of that asset," Saylor said on "Squawk on the Street," stressing as a major bitcoin believer and holder he's looking for "clear, bright line definitions of digital property versus a digital security versus a digital currency and the operating rules of the digital exchange."

U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman Gary Gensler said last month that the agency is planning to crack down on Wall Street, including by creating and enacting rules for cryptocurrency markets. Back in August, Gensler said Congress needs to grant the SEC additional powers to regulate crypto.

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Is this where we are heading! Without regulations from the government, btc will never be able to achieve the so desirable adoption, if people like Saylor is publicly calling for regulations it means soon we will witness it, what do you guys think would happen, and what about btc maxis who are strongly in support of decentralization and privacy, will they be willing to give that regulation in other to use btc?

This is pretty true, because while Bitcoin is an excellent online currency it will never be accepted fully by governments (and thus seen as a dangerous threat by financial departments) until it is fully regulated. That is going to involve exchanges that share financial transaction information with the tax authorities and cooperate with police authorities. This is one way that people could avoid their country banning it outright, but it only works successfully in democratic countries, authoritarian governments tend to have ulterior motives when they are trying to control the financial abilities of their citizens. There will always be a possibility that criminals will adopt it heavily until this comes into place.
legendary
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They can only suppress the price & ignore bitcoin for a limited time. Bitcoin is the internet of the 90’s, in 10-15 years the majority of the civilised world will own or use bitcoin, even if not knowingly. Bitcoin is the future of money & there’s nothing anybody can do to stop it. 
hero member
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I agree with what Michael Saylor said. regulation can be a positive catalyst for adoption. without clear regulations, institutions will not want to adopt crypto especially bitcoin. that's why the role of government is needed for this. if regulations on crypto are released, institutions like the SEC will find it easier to regulate crypto projects. the impact will be favorable for the market.

But the majority of crypto community always frown against anything that has the slightest regulations to it, take centralized exchanges for example, many crypto users claim they don't use them because of the simple reason of going through kyc, then imagine a strict regulation from the government on btc, what will happen to these sets of people,

I don't think regulations are entirely bad especially when it can sanitize the crypto space with all the junk projects created on a daily basis, but it also means no room for privacy, and perhaps most of the privacy projects will be targeted.
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He somewhat has a point. I'm guessing that some institutional investors are very undecided with bitcoin/crypto is due to the regulatory uncertainty.
The regulatory uncertainty still make people skeptical about crypto, Michael Saylor has a point. If there is any possibility of cryptocurrency getting regulated, the regulatory body (an extension from the government) will ensure that the regulations made are at an advantage to them.
That is the whole idea behind regulation, for them to know just about everything that is going on there, so it is always to their advantage but that said, it might not totally mean it is bad just as you too have said, this could make undecided folks/institution have more conviction in a space that wasn't regulated if it does come thru.
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I agree with what Michael Saylor said. regulation can be a positive catalyst for adoption. without clear regulations, institutions will not want to adopt crypto especially bitcoin. that's why the role of government is needed for this. if regulations on crypto are released, institutions like the SEC will find it easier to regulate crypto projects. the impact will be favorable for the market.
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Is this starting to enter the concept of centralization that we are not aware of with the regulations on the exchange. If it fully impacts on massive adoption, then how will the impact of government control in controlling crypto exchanges will make it easier for institutions to dominate the market. Adoption is important, but setting policies that will only narrow down privacy is definitely not good for crypto users.
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what do you guys think would happen, and what about btc maxis who are strongly in support of decentralization and privacy, will they be willing to give that regulation in other to use btc?
I think Btc maximalist will not be bothered by regulation. Haven't they been managing their bitcoins in their privacy way for a long time? Meanwhile, if regulations try to centralize bitcoin as happened with Elsalvador, this is more intended for the benefit of prospective (or existing) service adopters, not individuals specifically because there is no need for adoption regulations to own it (silently).
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