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Topic: Bitcoin Express -- an iOS thin client for bitcoin (Read 11616 times)

legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
www.bitcointrading.com
No longer working?  This project could revolutionize the bitcoin world forever, someone plz continue this and make it Android compatible!

edit: commented before reading Apple's rejection.  I think the big companies are truly afraid of bitcoin if they are calling it "illegal"!
legendary
Activity: 1878
Merit: 1038
Telegram: https://t.me/eckmar
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I changed the app available location to Japan, and sent an appeal request to App Review Board.
If Bitcoin Express can't win this "legal or not" argument, it will be ported to Macs and PCs and open-sourced on git-hub.


So is it now at git-hub available?
Could you post a link here?
Is it open source now and somebody could pick up this great project?

Sunny regards from Koh Samui,
 Eckmar Eckel
sr. member
Activity: 369
Merit: 250
Looks like the relay server for this is no longer accessible.

App no longer works.
hero member
Activity: 585
Merit: 501
thanks for the awesome peace of work !!
i like the way how the Bitcoin Address is shared, is it possible to build in a QR-Code Generator for the Bitcoin Address ?

newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
This truly sucks, and highlights the major problem with the Apple ecosystem.

Whats your plan for BTC Express? Will we see updates on git-hub for those who run it jailbroken?

Do you have any other options for getting it in the app store?

I changed the app available location to Japan, and sent an appeal request to App Review Board.
If Bitcoin Express can't win this "legal or not" argument, it will be ported to Macs and PCs and open-sourced on git-hub.
sr. member
Activity: 369
Merit: 250
This truly sucks, and highlights the major problem with the Apple ecosystem.

Whats your plan for BTC Express? Will we see updates on git-hub for those who run it jailbroken?

Do you have any other options for getting it in the app store?
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
Apple rejected it again for the same reason, law issue.

Binary Rejected Aug 25, 2011 04:58 PM
Reasons for Rejection:
22.1: Apps must comply with all legal requirements in any location where they are made available to users. It is the developer's obligation to understand and conform to all local laws
Aug 25, 2011 04:58 PM. From Apple.
22.1

We found that your app contains content related to bitcoins - or facilitates, enables, or encourages an activity - that is not legal in all the locations in which the app is available, which is not in compliance with the App Store Review Guidelines.

We encourage you to review your app concept and evaluate whether you can incorporate different content and features that are in compliance with the Guidelines.

To appeal this review, please submit a request to the App Review Board.
sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 250
I really thought about it and there is nothing coming to my mind why clearly to reject such an app regarding the idea and the common known objections of apple.

There should not be any money without fee for apple in apps. Ok, but the txfee in BTC is first optional and secondly not "money" but product. Or does the definition of money not affect apple :\

After all it might be that they doan need a reason to reject  Embarrassed

If they reject it, are you gonna publish elsewhere?


But we all hope und root for you and your app.
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
It's been many days for "In review" status...

DateStatus
August 22, 2011 16:26In Review
August 22, 2011 16:24Waiting For Review
August 22, 2011 16:24Upload Received
August 22, 2011 16:21Waiting For Upload
August 22, 2011 14:11 Rejected
August 22, 2011 09:20In Review
August 15, 2011 23:47Waiting For Review

 Huh Huh Huh
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
Thanks for all your encouragement and advice.

The App Store's reviewer didn't know much about how to get bitcoins. So I re-submitted btc express app with some detailed instructions. Now, waiting for review, again.

'A bump feature' seems more interesting and convenient than QR code. Both are on the way Wink
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100
This gonna be available on Android Market?
sr. member
Activity: 369
Merit: 250
This is a great step towards using bitcoin on the iPhone.  I have tested putting coins on the phone and that worked great, havent tried sending them yet, hopefully that is working ok.

Have you got any feedback from Apple re approval for the App Store?

Any chance of implementing some QR code scanning? Smiley
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Is the connection between you (the server) and the client SSL-secured with static cert to prevent MITM attacks? I don't want anyone to find out which addresses I own...
vip
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1140
The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
Why am I paying two fees? What is the relay fee?

The relay fee is ostensibly a fee being charged by the maker of the app who is running a "relay server" to do the work of actually communicating with other bitcoin nodes and holding a copy of the full block chain, and perhaps digesting and filtering the block chain so that the client can download only the transactions it cares about, rather than downloading everything and throwing the unwanted portion out.

full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Brad Willman, SSCP, LTCP, MCTS,SCE,BCE
this looks wonderful. I'll beg for you to add a bump feature!
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
So cool  Cool
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
I like the ideas behind the client, and I hope this app gets certified.

But please, PLEASE, fix the hideous UI. Those backgrounds have to go, at the very least because they make the icon text hard to read. The color scheme looks dirty and sickly. iOS apps typically don't have Springboard-style layouts, i.e. a "home screen" and several icons to click, they have one visible screen that can be switched to different tabs (facebook is a notable exception to this).

These are just off the top of my head. I'm sure others could supply more suggestions.

But, again, good luck. I wish you the very best with this project.

I use the Three20 framework to implement UI, so the App is fb-style like.
I will re-design the UI as soon as possible.
Thank you!
newbie
Activity: 20
Merit: 0
I installed the app and now i'll review it Cheesy

the app itself is awesome! pay with btc from my iphone is great!

this is the test I made to see if it works fine:
1. sent 0.01 BTC from my windows client to my iphone
2. the 0.01 were received after the 1st confirmation
3. i'm trying to send the 0.01 BTC back to my client but i cant

The first problem is when i'm typing the amount of BTC, I don't have the dot . as decimal separator because in my country we use , as decimal separator. Using , the app tells me the amount is invalid.

The second problem is after the correct amount is input in the field (0.01), i cant send back the payment because it says Insufficient funds. My iphone account balance is 0.01 by checking Balance section.

I get something different when i input 0.0090 as amount. i get: "Error: this transaction requires a tx fee of at least 0.0005 and a relay fee of 0.001, because of its amount, complexity....."

I can only send the funds when i set the amount as 0.0085.

Why am I paying two fees? What is the relay fee?

Suggestion: When sending funds, if I set the amount to send and that amount is the total BTC I have in iphone wallet, it should accept my 0.01 as input and deduct the fees after sending. People dont want to be testing values like myself. I input 0.01 and got error, then input 0.0095 and same error, then 0.009 and different error, and finally 0.0085 and it was accepted. The app itself should calculate the fees at the end and whe dont have to be testing amounts

Thank you very much for your suggestion!
I'd work on it to calculate the max btc a client could send and give a useful tip on the max value to user.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
I like the ideas behind the client, and I hope this app gets certified.

But please, PLEASE, fix the hideous UI. Those backgrounds have to go, at the very least because they make the icon text hard to read. The color scheme looks dirty and sickly. iOS apps typically don't have Springboard-style layouts, i.e. a "home screen" and several icons to click, they have one visible screen that can be switched to different tabs (facebook is a notable exception to this).

These are just off the top of my head. I'm sure others could supply more suggestions.

But, again, good luck. I wish you the very best with this project.
full member
Activity: 230
Merit: 100
I installed the app and now i'll review it Cheesy

the app itself is awesome! pay with btc from my iphone is great!

this is the test I made to see if it works fine:
1. sent 0.01 BTC from my windows client to my iphone
2. the 0.01 were received after the 1st confirmation
3. i'm trying to send the 0.01 BTC back to my client but i cant

The first problem is when i'm typing the amount of BTC, I don't have the dot . as decimal separator because in my country we use , as decimal separator. Using , the app tells me the amount is invalid.

The second problem is after the correct amount is input in the field (0.01), i cant send back the payment because it says Insufficient funds. My iphone account balance is 0.01 by checking Balance section.

I get something different when i input 0.0090 as amount. i get: "Error: this transaction requires a tx fee of at least 0.0005 and a relay fee of 0.001, because of its amount, complexity....."

I can only send the funds when i set the amount as 0.0085.

Why am I paying two fees? What is the relay fee?

Suggestion: When sending funds, if I set the amount to send and that amount is the total BTC I have in iphone wallet, it should accept my 0.01 as input and deduct the fees after sending. People dont want to be testing values like myself. I input 0.01 and got error, then input 0.0095 and same error, then 0.009 and different error, and finally 0.0085 and it was accepted. The app itself should calculate the fees at the end and whe dont have to be testing amounts
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