Simple, yet brilliant!
Totally agree it looks awesome!
Topic: Bitcoin Firesafe - page 2. (Read 5650 times)
Totally agree it looks awesome!
It indeed is a great idea, but how do you come around giving the private key to someone else. Should be perfect when 3d printing comes available to the big crowd!
With the BIP38 standard, you don't have to give your private key to anyone... you encrypt it with a passphrase that you keep, and we embed the encrypted key in metal. 
Dude this slab reminded me of the movie Indiana Jones and the lost ark, i guess in 10-15 years we will be stealing such slabs of crypto keys from each other 
Nice innovative idea 
It indeed is a great idea, but how do you come around giving the private key to someone else. Should be perfect when 3d printing comes available to the big crowd!
What is the point of a QR code rather than an encrypted private key? Less likely for someone to memorize a QR code than a long private key?
The QR code IS the private key, just encoded in a visual format easy to parse by machines.It's also an option to put the 64 hex digits into a slab of metal, but to use it you'd have to type them or use (less reliable) OCR.
I figured it was the key or an encrypted version of the key, but it seemed like typing them in would be less error prone than a camera trying to read the dots on steel. Maybe I'm wrong that it's entirely readable with a camera now.
A bit above 1200F, Classic Safe 934 begins to melt. We're currently prototyping Classic Safe 1783 which doesn't melt until the temperature is above 2700F. The product pages have additional details.
Ok nice!What is the point of a QR code rather than an encrypted private key? Less likely for someone to memorize a QR code than a long private key?
The QR code IS the private key, just encoded in a visual format easy to parse by machines.It's also an option to put the 64 hex digits into a slab of metal, but to use it you'd have to type them or use (less reliable) OCR.
It's a great idea, I've been working on some similar products but in the end it always comes down to the fact that if you give someone the private key to etch/engrave/print, it's not secure. If you password protect it, it defeats the purpose somewhat of having a backup.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
You could write down the password in a way that only you would understand, then laminate that and stuff it in a magazine in your attic. Even if someone finds the password paper (which they won't) they won't understand it anyway. And as if a common street thug who breaks into your house is even going to care about stealing this thing that looks like a paperweight.
Yes, but a bulk of the reason behind these types of 'backups' is that in the event you're hit in the head, in a coma, or more realistically: forget your password (old age, not using the password for years, etc) you can still get your BTC. If you have to password protect it, you're still at risk for losing everything.
True. You could just write down a password clue for yourself that isn't too complicated, for example if your name is "joe miller" write down the clue "___ miller" (obviously this is a ridiculous example, but it's just an example). It would be almost impossible to not be able to crack the password yourself, but a common thief would be at a loss.
Now yeah, if you get hit in the head and have total amnesia for the rest of your life, then you would probably forget the answers to the password clues, but I think that's such a highly unlikely scenario that it's unnecessary to plan for it.
That is one cool wallet. I want one
It's a great idea, I've been working on some similar products but in the end it always comes down to the fact that if you give someone the private key to etch/engrave/print, it's not secure. If you password protect it, it defeats the purpose somewhat of having a backup.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
You could write down the password in a way that only you would understand, then laminate that and stuff it in a magazine in your attic. Even if someone finds the password paper (which they won't) they won't understand it anyway. And as if a common street thug who breaks into your house is even going to care about stealing this thing that looks like a paperweight.
Yes, but a bulk of the reason behind these types of 'backups' is that in the event you're hit in the head, in a coma, or more realistically: forget your password (old age, not using the password for years, etc) you can still get your BTC. If you have to password protect it, you're still at risk for losing everything.
Looking great now implant in inside of your wall and you're good to go. Best hiding place.
Unless you just want to display it with a small amount of BTC in it.
Unless you just want to display it with a small amount of BTC in it.
Cool, I hadn't thought of that.
I have a milling machine that could put a QR code on a ceramic tile, or with the right bit, even onto a plain brick. *Thats* firesafe to a huge temperature.
I have a milling machine that could put a QR code on a ceramic tile, or with the right bit, even onto a plain brick. *Thats* firesafe to a huge temperature.
Why not just distribute some encrypted backups to family and mail yourself a copy? Keeping your key in a safe doesn't seem... safe, comparatively.
I have access to laser cutters that can cut into aluminium and was thinking about making some private key sheets of aluminium to sell.
It's a great idea, I've been working on some similar products but in the end it always comes down to the fact that if you give someone the private key to etch/engrave/print, it's not secure. If you password protect it, it defeats the purpose somewhat of having a backup.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
You could write down the password in a way that only you would understand, then laminate that and stuff it in a magazine in your attic. Even if someone finds the password paper (which they won't) they won't understand it anyway. And as if a common street thug who breaks into your house is even going to care about stealing this thing that looks like a paperweight.
Been working on an idea for a little while, and I just published it... http://bitcoinfiresafe.com/
Basically, the idea is to make something much more secure against environmental damage than a paper wallet. I built some custom code and have made some prototypes, and at this point, I'm ready to offer some to the public. Given that Bitcoin Black Friday is kicking off, and we're launching at the same time, I'm offering it for a deep discount of 40% off the normal $50USD price.
If anyone has some suggestions or questions, please let me know!
Basically, the idea is to make something much more secure against environmental damage than a paper wallet. I built some custom code and have made some prototypes, and at this point, I'm ready to offer some to the public. Given that Bitcoin Black Friday is kicking off, and we're launching at the same time, I'm offering it for a deep discount of 40% off the normal $50USD price.
If anyone has some suggestions or questions, please let me know!
What is the point of a QR code rather than an encrypted private key? Less likely for someone to memorize a QR code than a long private key?
You could do a much better job with one of these.
http://www.us.trumpf.com/en/products/laser-technology/products/marking-lasers.html
http://www.us.trumpf.com/en/products/laser-technology/products/marking-lasers/workstations/trumark-station-1000.html
We have one in our lab at work and it makes perfect QR codes on everything from plastic to titanium.
http://www.us.trumpf.com/en/products/laser-technology/products/marking-lasers.html
http://www.us.trumpf.com/en/products/laser-technology/products/marking-lasers/workstations/trumark-station-1000.html
We have one in our lab at work and it makes perfect QR codes on everything from plastic to titanium.
It's a great idea, I've been working on some similar products but in the end it always comes down to the fact that if you give someone the private key to etch/engrave/print, it's not secure. If you password protect it, it defeats the purpose somewhat of having a backup.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
Hard to imagine a way around this before 3d printers take off.
This looks very nice.
Can you quantify the fire-safeness? At what temperature will it melt/deform?
A bit above 1200F, Classic Safe 934 begins to melt. We're currently prototyping Classic Safe 1783 which doesn't melt until the temperature is above 2700F. The product pages have additional details. Can you quantify the fire-safeness? At what temperature will it melt/deform?
This looks very nice.
Can you quantify the fire-safeness? At what temperature will it melt/deform?
Can you quantify the fire-safeness? At what temperature will it melt/deform?
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