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December 07, 2017, 10:44:05 PM
#28
I also agree that BCH could be the coin they pump after shorting BTC.

They'll probably screw with Bitcoin's transactions while they short.

I’m NOT saying you are correct in your analysis. Perhaps today’s astronomical pump, was just a test not so much for the small’s buying during the run up, but a test to see what the capabilities were of the Exchanges in handling the massive buying pump. If it was a giant pump to test those uncharted water, the Exchanges failed miserably. I woke up this early :am (4:00am) and was online and watched it unfold 16k 17k 18k 19k in less than three hrs. I admit I was starting to panic at 18k, as I began to see my Exchange lagging and a few minutes later, it went off line. Nothing I could as I had not moved my total investment to my KeepKey. Granted I had move a substation amount this past Monday, but I had not moved another substantial amount.

So am I wrong in thinking today’s test, was a test of capability. Today’s run up cost some serious dollars, are they now rounding up for another run, for when the CME is Launched.

Maybe, and maybe the BCH pump that crippled Bitcoin with unconfirmed transactions a while back was also part of this test.

My prediction is; there's a huge BTC pump underway, Bitcoin shorts will be taken out, Bitcoin will have hundreds of thousands of unconfirmed transactions during a monumental dump. The short sellers will make big on the BTC pump and on shorting. The amounts traded on exchanges currently is pocket money to these guys, the market's so easy for them to manipulate.

On a microscopic scale day2day there will be huge movement, but over-all every war, every currency failure on earth will take BTC to a new high,

Biggest problem for criminal minded is to keep idiots churning their BTC's so they can be stolen on exchanges, pools, or forks.

BTC will go to $1M USD, but the ride will be bumpy, you can watch, or ignore, the outcome will be the same.

Those that HODL will end up RICH, those that churn and day-trade will end up POOR.
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December 07, 2017, 10:43:08 PM
#27
Seeing the current bull trend of bitcoin, it makes me nervous each time it surge because I am thinking how low will it be when it makes the correction and besides that, it seems this signs are showing to what is happening right now. Maybe it will happen sooner or later or maybe it will be different this time around. Whatever happens, we should always be ready when the storm comes.

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I'd like to present the works on major bull trends by H.M Gartley who wrote Profits in the Stock Market (1935).

How to recognise a bull market ending.

1. The daily volume has risen to an all time high.
2. Wide daily fluctuations are a regular occurrence.
3. Nearly everyone you meet appears to be in some way interested in the market.
4. Most financial news writers and financial commentators can see no reasons for any important decline.

"The thought of a bear market being around the corner is not seriously considered".

"A bear who presents what appear to be sound and logical reasons why a collapse is imminent, is considered to be either an out-and-out dyspeptic, or at least a very unpatriotic citizen."

"He can count on being very unpopular".

"Each bull market breeds a crop of traders who fail to recognise the unmistakable signs of a storm."

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December 07, 2017, 10:42:52 PM
#26
This is NOT about logic, or trading,


The WAR is coming, and the PPL in ASIA traditionally held GOLD and fled during war.

Now GOLD is too hard to carry, and too many airports and bus stations and trains stations have metal detectors where ppl can & will steal your wealth.

Thus this will be the FIRST "WORLD WAR" in history that little people use crypto-currency to flee the 'banker wars'

Interesting thought, all wars are bank wars since 1000 AD, but bankers don't control BTC, so the coming WAR, where does it leave the ppl who make these wars?

It's only can be assumed that they plan to bring the INTERNET down, and make their own crypto on restart.

 Roll Eyes
There's not going to be a world war calm down.

I'm literally laughing out loud when I read this. Yes calm down there won't be a world war. LOL
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December 07, 2017, 10:40:30 PM
#25
That might happen. World war vs Bitcoin. We cannot set aside that these Bankers is attacking Bitcoin without ceasing and that's the fact that we should understand, they will not let Bitcoin to take over the Fiat that they worked hard to earn up to this day. As of now a lot of people have been giving too much attention to Bitcoin, as we can see the price changes for the last 24 hours, we can now consider that there is a legit FOMO here and with that being said, correction and dip is really possible.

The average life of all FIAT in history is 45 years, bankers know this, men of means know this only IDIOTS think that the USD is 'forever'

BITCOIN will replace the notion of the SDR, it will go to $1M USD

Country's will have their own alt-currency's

Time will come that GOV's will collude to BAN the little guy from creating his own crypto, or even mining without a GOV license,

Knowledgeable ppl need to be thinking about privacy, and keeping the current system out of the hands of government centralization.

Bankers KNOW that the era of PAPER-MONEY is over the Era of Crypto-Money has begun.
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December 07, 2017, 10:34:51 PM
#24
I also agree that BCH could be the coin they pump after shorting BTC.

They'll probably screw with Bitcoin's transactions while they short.

I’m NOT saying you are correct in your analysis. Perhaps today’s astronomical pump, was just a test not so much for the small’s buying during the run up, but a test to see what the capabilities were of the Exchanges in handling the massive buying pump. If it was a giant pump to test those uncharted water, the Exchanges failed miserably. I woke up this early :am (4:00am) and was online and watched it unfold 16k 17k 18k 19k in less than three hrs. I admit I was starting to panic at 18k, as I began to see my Exchange lagging and a few minutes later, it went off line. Nothing I could as I had not moved my total investment to my KeepKey. Granted I had move a substation amount this past Monday, but I had not moved another substantial amount.

So am I wrong in thinking today’s test, was a test of capability. Today’s run up cost some serious dollars, are they now rounding up for another run, for when the CME is Launched.

Maybe, and maybe the BCH pump that crippled Bitcoin with unconfirmed transactions a while back was also part of this test.

My prediction is; there's a huge BTC pump underway, Bitcoin shorts will be taken out, Bitcoin will have hundreds of thousands of unconfirmed transactions during a monumental dump. The short sellers will make big on the BTC pump and on shorting. The amounts traded on exchanges currently is pocket money to these guys, the market's so easy for them to manipulate.
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December 07, 2017, 10:32:21 PM
#23
This is all unchartered territory. Anyone who claims to know what's happening, what's going to happen, or why it's happening is guessing. Some more educated than others, but still guessing.
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December 07, 2017, 10:30:29 PM
#22
Really, I don’t see things negatively with it. Bitcoin price now only represents the increasing speed of new investors and user that is joining because of its popularity and price. But I don’t also assume that pump group is not doing anything with it but for a minimun effect only. FUD are present everytime the price is widely and rapidly on the bullish run that is more of what i know.
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December 07, 2017, 10:23:56 PM
#21
I also agree that BCH could be the coin they pump after shorting BTC.

They'll probably screw with Bitcoin's transactions while they short.

I’m NOT saying you are correct in your analysis. Perhaps today’s astronomical pump, was just a test not so much for the small’s buying during the run up, but a test to see what the capabilities were of the Exchanges in handling the massive buying pump. If it was a giant pump to test those uncharted water, the Exchanges failed miserably. I woke up this early :am (4:00am) and was online and watched it unfold 16k 17k 18k 19k in less than three hrs. I admit I was starting to panic at 18k, as I began to see my Exchange lagging and a few minutes later, it went off line. Nothing I could as I had not moved my total investment to my KeepKey. Granted I had move a substation amount this past Monday, but I had not moved another substantial amount.

So am I wrong in thinking today’s test, was a test of capability. Today’s run up cost some serious dollars, are they now rounding up for another run, for when the CME is Launched.
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December 07, 2017, 10:21:40 PM
#20
I actually think that we will continue to see a rise in bitcoin FOMO. Many people have now heard of it, but only a small fraction have bought. I think we will continue to see a rise. Hold on!
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December 07, 2017, 10:19:00 PM
#19
Bankers Vs bitcoins

Well thats happening Even right now when we are talking about it thus there is for sure no need to panic.

Also not all banks are looking forward to start a war with bitcoins, luckily some are supporting bitcoins too , besides this many banks are launching cryptocurrencies, means they are seeing the potential the bitcoins has.

When a change comes everyone is for sure skeptical at start thus this is what the banks are facing right now, eventually its going to get accepted because of this large public support thus I don't think there is going to be any war.

If cryptos succeed they will kill central banks, commercial banks and investment banks will go the way of Blockbuster and Kodak, there's no incentive for them to work with and encourage cryptos, and every incentive to work against them. Central banks would literally have no reason to exist.

That's not to say all bankers are this way, but the actual institutions themselves are shitting themselves and they should.

Don't make the mistake of thinking banks will ever be on our side, they'll smile and shake your hand while slipping the knife in your back.
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December 07, 2017, 10:11:59 PM
#18
I am not so sure.  I think we may be seeing the beginning of wide spread adoption.  I noticed that Coinbase had a much higher price than other exchanges today.  This indicates to me that the average Joe is buying on there with credit cards.

The price rise this year is from institutional investors.  Keep in mind that most assets such as stocks are constantly being diluted.  Shares are issued to employees as part of a salary and also can be issued for various other purposes.  So when investigating a stock you need to look at the diluted value.  But bitcoin can not be diluted this way so when new money enters scarcity goes up.

At the beginning of 2017 the market cap of bitcoin was something like 30 billion.  That sounds like a lot, but its peanuts in the grand scheme of things.  A single private hedge fund can be worth 30 B, and there are many many funds.  I am not convinced that this is a pump and dump.  I think this is what should happen when big money comes in.  According to a quick google search the largest hedge fund is worth 122 billion.  That is just one fund.

Look at it this way.  BTC has been compared to gold.  The gold markets have Trillions of dollars moving around.  If even a fraction of that comes to BTC then price will have to skyrocket because of the nature of limited supply.  

If BTC hits 50k, then with 21 million BTC in circulation (there are less, but for the sake of argument), the market cap is somewhere around a trillion.  So does it seem reasonable that this much money will come in to the BTC market?  Take a look at the size of other markets and decide for yourself.

If the average JOE is buying, then U know its game over,

Let's see average joe is paying 20% on credit card, to get BITCOIN? and what? average joe is buyin $100 and paying $20 for fee's to get $80 of bitcoin, of which 90% will sell within 6 months and pay another 20% on exit in 'fees'.

BITCOIN is for rich people to buy a bucket full and have a safe place for their wealth, average joe has $500 cash in bank, and sure as hell, he'll use his credit card to 'get rich',

Just like all the MINERS who use their credit cards to buy graphics boards, and then find out they don't make $10/day before they pay for electricity.

I think most morons are trading alt-btc token, like penny stocks, and trying to get rich there, nobody who buys $100 in BTC is going to get rich, and not even stupid people think this,

The problem here is that ALL want everyone aboard, its not going to happen,

BITCOIN is just a place for the rich to park there money, its not even good for day2day transactions

Most ppl in USA don't have enough money to invest, most can't even pay their bills, most don't even have jobs,

Abroad say in ASIA priority is still to BUY GOLD, that is where the movement will be in BTC, as the chinese have the money

all these pathetic new conduits for idiots to buy/sell BTC is just about transaction fee's for houses that sold tradition stock market SHIT

Certainly obvious that MOST here are day-traders and NOT programmers, the mindset of an idiot is prevalent


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December 07, 2017, 10:05:23 PM
#17
Bankers Vs bitcoins

Well thats happening Even right now when we are talking about it thus there is for sure no need to panic.

Also not all banks are looking forward to start a war with bitcoins, luckily some are supporting bitcoins too , besides this many banks are launching cryptocurrencies, means they are seeing the potential the bitcoins has.

When a change comes everyone is for sure skeptical at start thus this is what the banks are facing right now, eventually its going to get accepted because of this large public support thus I don't think there is going to be any war.
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December 07, 2017, 09:59:04 PM
#16
That might happen. World war vs Bitcoin. We cannot set aside that these Bankers is attacking Bitcoin without ceasing and that's the fact that we should understand, they will not let Bitcoin to take over the Fiat that they worked hard to earn up to this day. As of now a lot of people have been giving too much attention to Bitcoin, as we can see the price changes for the last 24 hours, we can now consider that there is a legit FOMO here and with that being said, correction and dip is really possible.
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December 07, 2017, 09:57:28 PM
#15
My thoughts exactly, but if you're on the ride then you'll very much walk away with a big payday.
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December 07, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
#14
I am not so sure.  I think we may be seeing the beginning of wide spread adoption.  I noticed that Coinbase had a much higher price than other exchanges today.  This indicates to me that the average Joe is buying on there with credit cards.

The price rise this year is from institutional investors.  Keep in mind that most assets such as stocks are constantly being diluted.  Shares are issued to employees as part of a salary and also can be issued for various other purposes.  So when investigating a stock you need to look at the diluted value.  But bitcoin can not be diluted this way so when new money enters scarcity goes up.

At the beginning of 2017 the market cap of bitcoin was something like 30 billion.  That sounds like a lot, but its peanuts in the grand scheme of things.  A single private hedge fund can be worth 30 B, and there are many many funds.  I am not convinced that this is a pump and dump.  I think this is what should happen when big money comes in.  According to a quick google search the largest hedge fund is worth 122 billion.  That is just one fund.

Look at it this way.  BTC has been compared to gold.  The gold markets have Trillions of dollars moving around.  If even a fraction of that comes to BTC then price will have to skyrocket because of the nature of limited supply.  

If BTC hits 50k, then with 21 million BTC in circulation (there are less, but for the sake of argument), the market cap is somewhere around a trillion.  So does it seem reasonable that this much money will come in to the BTC market?  Take a look at the size of other markets and decide for yourself.

Interesting perspective my friend and some of it will be from your average Joe seeing the price and thinking "I'll have some of that".

My issue is not growth, I think BTC could be $100k by the end of 2019, my issue is this current growth spurt and the shear rate of it.

With any financial instrument that rises this sharply there's always solid, perfectly reasonable sounding arguments that this time it's different, that the sharp rise can be explained by XYZ, but there's always a downside to a rise that sharp. The only question for me is where the pump stops and how low will the other side of that peak be.
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December 07, 2017, 09:39:09 PM
#13
I am not so sure.  I think we may be seeing the beginning of wide spread adoption.  I noticed that Coinbase had a much higher price than other exchanges today.  This indicates to me that the average Joe is buying on there with credit cards.

The price rise this year is from institutional investors.  Keep in mind that most assets such as stocks are constantly being diluted.  Shares are issued to employees as part of a salary and also can be issued for various other purposes.  So when investigating a stock you need to look at the diluted value.  But bitcoin can not be diluted this way so when new money enters scarcity goes up.

At the beginning of 2017 the market cap of bitcoin was something like 30 billion.  That sounds like a lot, but its peanuts in the grand scheme of things.  A single private hedge fund can be worth 30 B, and there are many many funds.  I am not convinced that this is a pump and dump.  I think this is what should happen when big money comes in.  According to a quick google search the largest hedge fund is worth 122 billion.  That is just one fund.

Look at it this way.  BTC has been compared to gold.  The gold markets have Trillions of dollars moving around.  If even a fraction of that comes to BTC then price will have to skyrocket because of the nature of limited supply.  

If BTC hits 50k, then with 21 million BTC in circulation (there are less, but for the sake of argument), the market cap is somewhere around a trillion.  So does it seem reasonable that this much money will come in to the BTC market?  Take a look at the size of other markets and decide for yourself.

Well said, I like your perspective.
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December 07, 2017, 09:31:31 PM
#12
I am not so sure.  I think we may be seeing the beginning of wide spread adoption.  I noticed that Coinbase had a much higher price than other exchanges today.  This indicates to me that the average Joe is buying on there with credit cards.

The price rise this year is from institutional investors.  Keep in mind that most assets such as stocks are constantly being diluted.  Shares are issued to employees as part of a salary and also can be issued for various other purposes.  So when investigating a stock you need to look at the diluted value.  But bitcoin can not be diluted this way so when new money enters scarcity goes up.

At the beginning of 2017 the market cap of bitcoin was something like 30 billion.  That sounds like a lot, but its peanuts in the grand scheme of things.  A single private hedge fund can be worth 30 B, and there are many many funds.  I am not convinced that this is a pump and dump.  I think this is what should happen when big money comes in.  According to a quick google search the largest hedge fund is worth 122 billion.  That is just one fund.

Look at it this way.  BTC has been compared to gold.  The gold markets have Trillions of dollars moving around.  If even a fraction of that comes to BTC then price will have to skyrocket because of the nature of limited supply.  

If BTC hits 50k, then with 21 million BTC in circulation (there are less, but for the sake of argument), the market cap is somewhere around a trillion.  So does it seem reasonable that this much money will come in to the BTC market?  Take a look at the size of other markets and decide for yourself.
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December 07, 2017, 09:22:36 PM
#11
I'm sure it will be great dump soon) So it will be good idea to sell at least part of BTC at current price. Also alts are recomended to be sold in USD/USDT

I think you might be right, it's happened every other time, but alts are so low this time that they might not actually go down with BTC this time. They seem to really be acting inverse to BTC a bit.

We're in uncharted waters I think, so familiar patterns don't necessarily apply.
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December 07, 2017, 09:18:42 PM
#10
I'm sure it will be great dump soon) So it will be good idea to sell at least part of BTC at current price. Also alts are recomended to be sold in USD/USDT
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December 07, 2017, 09:17:00 PM
#9
I also agree that BCH could be the coin they pump after shorting BTC.

They'll probably screw with Bitcoin's transactions while they short.
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