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Quote from: pinggoki on May 12, 2021, 08:54:17 AM

Bitcoin is really for everyone in which means that even the poorest can have a single amount of bitcoin in which they can buy over the wallets or exchangers and etc. This means that bitcoin is really for everyone and not only for rich people. Bitcoin stands for the people so they can acquire it anytime and anywhere in which it is very accessible.

I don't think that bitcoin would suit those poorest, there is still no assurance to earn in cryptocurrency because of the volatility, so those poor people who only earn little amount of money which is only good for their daily needs, like food then I don't think that they are going to put their earning at the risk instead of buying it for foods. Yes bitcoin is for everyone but still we need to consider their status in life first, not all can afford to buy bitcoin and not all are willing to take a risk.

Although bitcoin is for everyone but that doesn't mean everyone can make a profit with bitcoin,
Besides that, the high risk is certainly not something that is easily accepted by everyone,
So I think everything has its own way

for those who understand the bitcoin market, of course they will feel comfortable making money here, but for those who do not understand bitcoin, and understand the risks of course prefer to leave it. and the most difficult thing when people only see someone's success with bitcoin, while they don't understand and want to get a lot of money in a short time, so the gambling begins

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Quote from: fileo on May 10, 2021, 07:30:42 AM

For sure the Bitcoin cannot make it for everybody. Bitcoin supply is limited while human is unlimited. I mean human can make new one once there are pregnant lady. Every pregnant is potential to add another person on Earth which additional number the the total population of human. While Bitcoin is limited cannot make new coin that what it is now.

Actually, that's not the only problem. People will spend in line with their needs, and the rate will vary.
Friend talked about a utopia, if only there was a more equal and fair world for everyone. but unfortunately this is not possible for the world. Man is not such a developed species to rule and govern himself. and unfortunately many people are closed to development.

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Quote from: pinggoki on May 12, 2021, 08:54:17 AM

Bitcoin is really for everyone in which means that even the poorest can have a single amount of bitcoin in which they can buy over the wallets or exchangers and etc. This means that bitcoin is really for everyone and not only for rich people. Bitcoin stands for the people so they can acquire it anytime and anywhere in which it is very accessible.

I don't think that bitcoin would suit those poorest, there is still no assurance to earn in cryptocurrency because of the volatility, so those poor people who only earn little amount of money which is only good for their daily needs, like food then I don't think that they are going to put their earning at the risk instead of buying it for foods. Yes bitcoin is for everyone but still we need to consider their status in life first, not all can afford to buy bitcoin and not all are willing to take a risk.

Although bitcoin is for everyone but that doesn't mean everyone can make a profit with bitcoin,
Besides that, the high risk is certainly not something that is easily accepted by everyone,
So I think everything has its own way

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Quote from: judaspriest on June 05, 2021, 05:39:11 AM

It's true that even poor people don't necessarily understand cryptocurrencies, especially bitcoin,
and I don't think poor people will think that far, of course they will think for themselves how to survive,
so even though some give free bitcoins of course they don't understand what to do with bitcoins

I disagree.

If someone is poor, they're striving to survive but at same time they're hoping and dreaming of getting out of the poverty line someday. And it urges them to do extraordinary for their dreams and to get out of the rat race.

Try to give a poor guy bitcoin and for sure that he's going to do what it takes to understand it and what's the best thing to do it. Almost everybody got a signal for the internet to do simple search.

Myself too disagree on the statement. Just because one is poor, it doesn't mean they'll not understand anything. Everyone is doing something for survival, so there's no discrimination that someone specific understand and the other won't. It is all about the way they take it. I personally know a person who started with just $30 and slowly he have increased it to $1000. Invested what is possible for them and learn to make it big.

Well said.

Being poor isn't an hindrance for someone to stop learning or stop being curious with new things. There are those people despite their life situation, it doesn't stop them to be curious with new technologies.

They're learning from it and getting some idea through researching that's why there's no life status hindrance to learn a new technology.

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Quote from: AKalinousky on June 04, 2021, 04:43:44 AM

do you think our world is ready for an ideal cryptocurrency? the one to solve most of the problems of human society?
what is for you "ideal crypto"?

Everybody is not going to be part of the bitcoin community, not everyone is going to have interest in making use of it. And next, there is not going to be anything such as bitcoin being evenly distributed, lol that can never happen. Even fiat that is centralized and can easily be distributed evenly, they haven’t done that, not to talk about Bitcoin. Everyone can never have the same amount when it comes to money , it’s all about your hard work and luck. So you just have to work hard and gather more for yourself.

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Quote from: Xinarae* on June 07, 2021, 10:26:13 PM

If you do not become greedy you can use bitcoin if you have a good knowledge about bitcoin but it is not for everyone. Adequate capital is required to use bitcoin there are many poor people who cannot afford to invest in bitcoin it depends on the people not just the holders.

Totally agree, having some knowledge in bitcoin is a requirement that has an utmost importance because it if you get in the market and you don't have a knowledge about it, you will only get lost but that doesn't mean that it's all gone for you because you can still learn along the way, it's much more difficult though. I don't think that bitcoin is for everyone because not everyone has the patience to learn and to earn in long-term and we have to respect that.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on June 04, 2021, 11:06:14 PM

Not going to work because each hour a baby is being born which means that we have to continuously split the amount that we receive in bitcoin plus it won't be viable to do that because the greedy hodlers aren't going to let go of their bitcoin.

If you do not become greedy you can use bitcoin if you have a good knowledge about bitcoin but it is not for everyone. Adequate capital is required to use bitcoin there are many poor people who cannot afford to invest in bitcoin it depends on the people not just the holders.

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Quote from: jossiel on June 07, 2021, 04:12:24 AM

Quote from: judaspriest on June 05, 2021, 05:39:11 AM

It's true that even poor people don't necessarily understand cryptocurrencies, especially bitcoin,
and I don't think poor people will think that far, of course they will think for themselves how to survive,
so even though some give free bitcoins of course they don't understand what to do with bitcoins

Try to give a poor guy bitcoin and for sure that he's going to do what it takes to understand it and what's the best thing to do it. Almost everybody got a signal for the internet to do simple search.

Don't just give him bitcoin but also try to make him understand what bitcoin is and what is the use of it for sure he will be curious to know then dig dipper information about bitcoin since if you just give it to them they will just sell it off and buy the amount what they get some certain goods for temporary survival.

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Quote from: dimox on May 21, 2021, 11:04:02 AM

if that value mean rich, so, no poor people in the world. the problem if how to make money if we have same amount, who will produce, sell a thing if we are equal? world need balance, for rich and poor. if both need money, just make a big work. money just for worker, not for everyone.

If there are no poor people on the world then there are also no rich people. I think that wealth is relative, giving everybody the same amount of money wouldn't really change anything either. Since that money would be free all goods would increase in price overnight. The only way would be to take money from the rich and give it to the poor. But this is very dangerous because rich people could just immigrate to another country to protect their wealth.

It won't happened at all, rich people will choose to leave instead of sharing their wealth to poor people, and like

you i see the same thing, if everything is free then the market will adjust and increase the value of their goods

it's always balance and there's always differences between.

Already during the pandemic rich ones are moving to secure locations to stay alive through private copters. So, for sure rich ones will move to other countries if they're asked to share their wealth.

In my understanding one can be said poor if he isn't able to meet his basic needs of food, clothing and shelter. What for is the government, if the government fulfill this finding the people. Then there won't be anyone as poor. Governments need to focus on providing quality education, medical services free of cost. If this is done by a government, poor will easily turn rich atleast by the next generation.

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Quote from: dimox on May 21, 2021, 11:04:02 AM

if that value mean rich, so, no poor people in the world. the problem if how to make money if we have same amount, who will produce, sell a thing if we are equal? world need balance, for rich and poor. if both need money, just make a big work. money just for worker, not for everyone.

If there are no poor people on the world then there are also no rich people. I think that wealth is relative, giving everybody the same amount of money wouldn't really change anything either. Since that money would be free all goods would increase in price overnight. The only way would be to take money from the rich and give it to the poor. But this is very dangerous because rich people could just immigrate to another country to protect their wealth.

It won't happened at all, rich people will choose to leave instead of sharing their wealth to poor people, and like

you i see the same thing, if everything is free then the market will adjust and increase the value of their goods

it's always balance and there's always differences between.

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Quote from: jossiel on June 07, 2021, 04:12:24 AM

Quote from: judaspriest on June 05, 2021, 05:39:11 AM

It's true that even poor people don't necessarily understand cryptocurrencies, especially bitcoin,
and I don't think poor people will think that far, of course they will think for themselves how to survive,
so even though some give free bitcoins of course they don't understand what to do with bitcoins

I disagree.

If someone is poor, they're striving to survive but at same time they're hoping and dreaming of getting out of the poverty line someday. And it urges them to do extraordinary for their dreams and to get out of the rat race.

Try to give a poor guy bitcoin and for sure that he's going to do what it takes to understand it and what's the best thing to do it. Almost everybody got a signal for the internet to do simple search.

Myself too disagree on the statement. Just because one is poor, it doesn't mean they'll not understand anything. Everyone is doing something for survival, so there's no discrimination that someone specific understand and the other won't. It is all about the way they take it. I personally know a person who started with just $30 and slowly he have increased it to $1000. Invested what is possible for them and learn to make it big.

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Quote from: AKalinousky on June 04, 2021, 04:43:44 AM

do you think our world is ready for an ideal cryptocurrency? the one to solve most of the problems of human society?
what is for you "ideal crypto"?

The concept of money has been discussed for a lot of time not only in this forum but through history and we know the characteristics it should have and bitcoin in that respect is as close as it can be to perfection as we have ever been.

However it seems that you want to mix two different concepts which is money and the economic well being of the whole population, and this is simply not something that can be achieved with the current levels of production and technological achievements we have reached.

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Quote from: judaspriest on June 05, 2021, 05:39:11 AM

It's true that even poor people don't necessarily understand cryptocurrencies, especially bitcoin,
and I don't think poor people will think that far, of course they will think for themselves how to survive,
so even though some give free bitcoins of course they don't understand what to do with bitcoins

I disagree.

If someone is poor, they're striving to survive but at same time they're hoping and dreaming of getting out of the poverty line someday. And it urges them to do extraordinary for their dreams and to get out of the rat race.

Try to give a poor guy bitcoin and for sure that he's going to do what it takes to understand it and what's the best thing to do it. Almost everybody got a signal for the internet to do simple search.

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Quote from: Rajamuda on June 05, 2021, 01:30:12 AM

The problem here, poor people can't necessarily get bitcoin for free, because of course it gets more expensive on its price, unless there are people who provide help, such as providing opportunities to earn bitcoin in certain ways. Well, from an economic point of view, it's like money in general, but it's not necessarily easy to earn it.

It's true that even poor people don't necessarily understand cryptocurrencies, especially bitcoin,
and I don't think poor people will think that far, of course they will think for themselves how to survive,
so even though some give free bitcoins of course they don't understand what to do with bitcoins

Oh, c'mon! Can that be a problem these days? I don't think so. If someone is willing to give you Bitcoin, you surely can figure out what to do with it.

Quote from: AKalinousky on June 04, 2021, 04:43:44 AM

do you think our world is ready for an ideal cryptocurrency? the one to solve most of the problems of human society?
what is for you "ideal crypto"?

The "ideal crypto" is Bitcoin, apparently. And I'm saying it not because I'm so tech savvy that I can judge(I'm not), but rather because I can see that with hundreds, even thousands, of tries Bitcoin has not been defeated.

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Quote from: AKalinousky on June 04, 2021, 04:43:44 AM

do you think our world is ready for an ideal cryptocurrency? the one to solve most of the problems of human society?
what is for you "ideal crypto"?

Crypto is an ever evolving project and that's why we can never know what is the "ideal crypto" in our minds, because it always gets better and better. Something that was created today has a lot more technological advanced blockchain than any other thing that was created years ago, every year we are seeing better and better improvements and that is why the newer ones have a better system. Doesn't mean they are better, some of them are not even that good in price and the team sucks, but that is not the problem of the project or the idea, it is the problem of the team.

So long story short we are just waiting for something that would be benefiting only the team if they suck. The ideal one would be a great team creating something with the highest tech available at that moment, however it will not be ideal in 2-3 years because even a better tech will come up.

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Quote from: Rajamuda on June 05, 2021, 01:30:12 AM

The problem here, poor people can't necessarily get bitcoin for free, because of course it gets more expensive on its price, unless there are people who provide help, such as providing opportunities to earn bitcoin in certain ways. Well, from an economic point of view, it's like money in general, but it's not necessarily easy to earn it.

It's true that even poor people don't necessarily understand cryptocurrencies, especially bitcoin,
and I don't think poor people will think that far, of course they will think for themselves how to survive,
so even though some give free bitcoins of course they don't understand what to do with bitcoins

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Quote from: Rajamuda on June 05, 2021, 01:30:12 AM

The problem here, poor people can't necessarily get bitcoin for free, because of course it gets more expensive on its price, unless there are people who provide help, such as providing opportunities to earn bitcoin in certain ways. Well, from an economic point of view, it's like money in general, but it's not necessarily easy to earn it.

Plus, poor people don't have the necessary devices and requirements to access bitcoin since impoverished people are basically trying to survive a day at a time and an electronic device is the least of their worry.

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The problem here, poor people can't necessarily get bitcoin for free, because of course it gets more expensive on its price, unless there are people who provide help, such as providing opportunities to earn bitcoin in certain ways. Well, from an economic point of view, it's like money in general, but it's not necessarily easy to earn it.

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Not going to work because each hour a baby is being born which means that we have to continuously split the amount that we receive in bitcoin plus it won't be viable to do that because the greedy hodlers aren't going to let go of their bitcoin.

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Quote from: AKalinousky on June 04, 2021, 04:43:44 AM

do you think our world is ready for an ideal cryptocurrency? the one to solve most of the problems of human society?
what is for you "ideal crypto"?

There is no further elaboration of what we need to tell about IDEAL CRYPTO because the benefits we already received from Bitcoin is something that we must be thankful for Satoshi and to this whole crypto market.

But if you are asking about what Specific coin? then that must be Bitcoin and not Shitcoin of Meme coin.

We will be always thankful and will always be there to support and use this coin all our life and to our next generation.

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