There was an article on Wired a while ago regarding homeless in Florida using Bitcoin.
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/09/bitcoin-homeless/
Topic: Bitcoin for the homeless (Read 1702 times)
People being rejected for credit may have nothing to do with there domicile status.
If you don't have a job, if you are a risk, I can show you many links of here that want credit and don't pay it back. Your new to this site, we all have different views, but your story to general not targeting a small group of people in a location
If you don't have a job, if you are a risk, I can show you many links of here that want credit and don't pay it back. Your new to this site, we all have different views, but your story to general not targeting a small group of people in a location
I can see that I've explained things badly, and you guys are just not getting the concept. I'll leave this thread, and I start another using a more apposite title when I am a bit further down the line.
No offence dude but bitcoin is a useless currency for the homeless. How are they going to pay for anything without computer or phone...
Exactly unless you are giving them a phone to use haha.
There are many programs where they can get mobile phones. But I think it is limited to dumb phones with text and calling. So I would agree them having smartphone to do this... slim chance.
You might be able to do a charity for homeless (but it would be hard as providing proof and getting people to donate will not be easiest journey). But I think at end of day the homeless would be better off with fiat.
It is sad but I don't see them carrying around a bitcoin wallet over cash.
I guess my mistake was in using the word homeless - maybe I should have said "people with a mobile lifestyle or holidaying in a campervan" Getting a bank account with clearing facilites is a big problem for some in the UK (and other countries). You need a passport, a birth certificate, and to be on the electoral role, for it to be a straightforward task.
Here is a quote from the Noddle website ( noddle.co.uk )
70% of UK credit card applications are rejected - last year alone, 5 million applications were unsuccessful.
Here is a quote from the Noddle website ( noddle.co.uk )
70% of UK credit card applications are rejected - last year alone, 5 million applications were unsuccessful.
No I haven't read your other posts and you never linked them in your post, why would anyone check everything you have ever written rather than just what this thread is.
As for getting a bank account I have never seen it a issue ever for homeless people, maybe you need to look at your local system rather than just guess a global answer for a varied local issue.
There is no one answer, and while I agree giving people money is never the answer (vs food or accomodation) I don't think a BTC bank account is a substantial answer for money.
As for getting a bank account I have never seen it a issue ever for homeless people, maybe you need to look at your local system rather than just guess a global answer for a varied local issue.
There is no one answer, and while I agree giving people money is never the answer (vs food or accomodation) I don't think a BTC bank account is a substantial answer for money.
Thanks for the offer, but I don't believe that giving people money is the answer, helping them to improve their lot is the only long term solution. Job creation and an economy that doesn't force them into debt slavery are other elements.
The charity I support is a heart trust. They buy defibrillators and give them to schools and install them in other public places, they also spend money on various other heart related projects. I've discussed using Bitcoin to raise funds, but at the moment, they take a very traditional approach to fund raising.
The charity I support is a heart trust. They buy defibrillators and give them to schools and install them in other public places, they also spend money on various other heart related projects. I've discussed using Bitcoin to raise funds, but at the moment, they take a very traditional approach to fund raising.
Setup a donation address.
I`ll be happy to donate some of my profits that I earn to the homeless people. I earn a lot of bitcoins so it's no big deal for me.
I`ll be happy to donate some of my profits that I earn to the homeless people. I earn a lot of bitcoins so it's no big deal for me.
I'm not American, I'm English. Have you read some of my other posts? I have stated that Bitcoin will never replace cash, or some other token system. It will/has change(d) other money payment systems though. This is especially true now that the EU has ruled that bank bail-ins are legal. IMHO Bitcoin is safer than cash provided that both parties have a communication facility, and a connection service is available. One of the problems encountered by homeless people is the difficulty in maintaining a bank account - Bitcoin provides an alternative that doen't require references and a stable income. So do you think that homeless people should be repressed and kept out of conventional society? I think they should be given a chance to improve their lot if they want to take it.
refugees and economic migrants are not the issue here, but Bitcoin could help them to survive given the mix of nationalities intheir camps.
Bitcoin is not a pipe dream anymore. I'm politically incorrect, and noted for my criticism of people compromising their beliefs to gain peer acceptance. Free WiFi is a commercial decision made by businesses to increase sales to mobile customers. I spend more in MacD and other places than you pay for your internet (over £400 per month)
refugees and economic migrants are not the issue here, but Bitcoin could help them to survive given the mix of nationalities intheir camps.
Bitcoin is not a pipe dream anymore. I'm politically incorrect, and noted for my criticism of people compromising their beliefs to gain peer acceptance. Free WiFi is a commercial decision made by businesses to increase sales to mobile customers. I spend more in MacD and other places than you pay for your internet (over £400 per month)
You really think BTC is better than cash? You must be a American, I have lived in Australia PNG Malaysia Singapore and now Belgium, homeless people are homeless, let's say you give them 100$ in cash, they can hide it in a brick wall or on there person or spend it anywhere, give them a phone with 100$ of BTC, someone steals the phone the phone breaks the value of BTC changes and also they can't buy anything because McDonald's doesn't take BTC mainly because of people with pipe dreams, maccas wants to be seen doing the right thing, BTC looks like a way of avoiding tax, cool kids don't use BTC because anti government free wifi grabbing people promote it.
And please don't bring refugees into a conversation about finance or the homeless as everywhere has a different status with refugees
And please don't bring refugees into a conversation about finance or the homeless as everywhere has a different status with refugees
Yeah you would have to give them an eletronic and hope they dont pawn it off 
You guys should spend some time looking at the real world instead of posting here to scratch a few cents from sigs. There are an enormous number of people in the US who are living in cars, vans and RVs. Some from necessity, and some from choice. They all have mobile phones, and many have computers. In fact quite a few earn a living on the net. The same applies to many other countries. Youtube is full of videos posted by them.
No offence dude but bitcoin is a useless currency for the homeless. How are they going to pay for anything without computer or phone...
Exactly unless you are giving them a phone to use haha.
All the homeless around here seem to have at least one mobile, and many have tablets as well. Also, you may like to look at some of the videos about the economic migrants that are flooding into Europe.
No offence dude but bitcoin is a useless currency for the homeless. How are they going to pay for anything without computer or phone...
I've noticed that this thread has had over 300 views, and I suspect that the title attracted most of those. I'm now about 3 days into this project, and I thought I should post my opinion for anyone who is genuinely homeless, and is considering the use of Bitcoin. Please remember that these opinions are those of a Bitcoin newbie ( but not a computer newbie).
- Bitcoin is a great alternative to cash
- Downloading the blockchain is only viable for eccentric English coffee addicts, you would be better off using the light services suggested in various posts in my threads.
- Pay special attention to security aspects, and assume that at some time you will lose your mobile/computer.
- A chromebook may be a viable alternative, I'll post about that when I've got it working.
- Earning bitcoin from sig views could be a useful additional income, especially if you can discuss your experiences on other boards.
- Your Bitcoin stache is not immediately visible to those around you.
More info to come when I have some actual experience.
- Bitcoin is a great alternative to cash
- Downloading the blockchain is only viable for eccentric English coffee addicts, you would be better off using the light services suggested in various posts in my threads.
- Pay special attention to security aspects, and assume that at some time you will lose your mobile/computer.
- A chromebook may be a viable alternative, I'll post about that when I've got it working.
- Earning bitcoin from sig views could be a useful additional income, especially if you can discuss your experiences on other boards.
- Your Bitcoin stache is not immediately visible to those around you.
More info to come when I have some actual experience.
I'm guessing the red is nacks and retry requests as a result of receiving faulty packets (at MacD). I might use that graph to illustrate the problem.
I'm now down to about 2.5 years on this link. I'm down to about 40 minutes on the battery, so I'll quit until I can recharge tomorrow.
Thanks for all your help and info, it's been really useful.
I'm now down to about 2.5 years on this link. I'm down to about 40 minutes on the battery, so I'll quit until I can recharge tomorrow.
Thanks for all your help and info, it's been really useful.
That's it. Thanks for posting the link, it was really helpful. It's all green here. In fact the received traffic is in Mb and the sent is Kb. At MacD, the graph was mainly red. I know there is interference on thir hub, because I can't connect the Chromebook there. I didn't realise it was that bad though.
Yes, it should be mainly green for you while you are stil synchronizing. You will obviously send data even though you dont have the full blockchain available, but most traffic should be going your way.
That's it. Thanks for posting the link, it was really helpful. It's all green here. In fact the received traffic is in Mb and the sent is Kb. At MacD, the graph was mainly red. I know there is interference on thir hub, because I can't connect the Chromebook there. I didn't realise it was that bad though.
It's quite interesting. It looks as if they may monitor activity, because it seems to slow down after a while. If I log off, and log on again with a different address, then it speeds up again. I hear what you say about the port, and that answers the next q. I was going to ask.
I guess they limit usage per session, but its most likely automated.
When I started, I could click on the activity bar, and I got a pretty activity graph. That facility seems to have gone. Is there a way to get it back?
I think you are looking for this:
Its under Help -> Debug Window -> Network Traffic
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