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Quote from: Minnlo on September 04, 2014, 02:18:46 AM

Quote from: espringe on September 03, 2014, 09:53:00 PM

I disagree. There are plenty of skill games, that are extremely difficult to write a bot for. Even something like a rock-paper-scissors bot is a daunting challenge. Deviate from the nash equilibrium (a random throw), and risk being exploited. But if you play randomly, and you have only downside (assuming a rake).

Why do you consider rock-paper-scissors a skill game?
It is mainly luck based IMO, though if it is played face to face, you may be able to read your opponent's gesture and predict his movement.

When I think about skill games, I immediately think of games like chess and backgammon, which people have created extremely powerful bots...

What do you think about above Idea

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Quote from: espringe on September 03, 2014, 09:53:00 PM

I disagree. There are plenty of skill games, that are extremely difficult to write a bot for. Even something like a rock-paper-scissors bot is a daunting challenge. Deviate from the nash equilibrium (a random throw), and risk being exploited. But if you play randomly, and you have only downside (assuming a rake).

Why do you consider rock-paper-scissors a skill game?
It is mainly luck based IMO, though if it is played face to face, you may be able to read your opponent's gesture and predict his movement.

When I think about skill games, I immediately think of games like chess and backgammon, which people have created extremely powerful bots...

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I can use this type of game.In which users have to survive the game for 120 seconds.If any users successfully survive the 120 seconds he will get double of his deposited btc.If he unable to survive he will loss his btc.

Here are the screen shot

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Quote from: vit1988 on September 03, 2014, 03:04:08 PM

Skill games are hard to realize cause it ends up in who is skilled in cheating and writing the best bot. In p2p games the majority of fair players will lose interest fast and when betting against the house you have to either increase the difficulty + lower the player profits (which will annoy fair players) or work hard on anti-cheating measures and trying to prove people are indeed cheating.

I disagree. There are plenty of skill games, that are extremely difficult to write a bot for. Even something like a rock-paper-scissors bot is a daunting challenge. Deviate from the nash equilibrium (a random throw), and risk being exploited. But if you play randomly, and you have only downside (assuming a rake).

I think in a game like that, there would be virtually no bots -- and a lot of players.

But yeah, there's definitely whole classes of games which aren't really suitable due to bots (e.g reflex based, and many strategy based ones)

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Quote from: Coinbuddy on September 03, 2014, 01:35:46 PM

I want something unqiue and creative to start. I want users to pay on their skills.Like skill based games.

What do you think?

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I agree! And that's why I made https://www.moneypot.com/ -- it's primarily luck based, but there is also an element of skill -- be on of the last people to cashout, to get a prize. Unlike almost all bitcoin gambling games out there, it's actually possible to achieve a positive expected value with certain playing styles.

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Quote from: vit1988 on September 03, 2014, 03:04:08 PM

Skill games are hard to realize cause it ends up in who is skilled in cheating and writing the best bot. In p2p games the majority of fair players will lose interest fast and when betting against the house you have to either increase the difficulty + lower the player profits (which will annoy fair players) or work hard on anti-cheating measures and trying to prove people are indeed cheating.

Exactly - true.

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are there any other bitcoin poker sites out there? i know that betco.in was recently closed down.

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Skill games are hard to realize cause it ends up in who is skilled in cheating and writing the best bot. In p2p games the majority of fair players will lose interest fast and when betting against the house you have to either increase the difficulty + lower the player profits (which will annoy fair players) or work hard on anti-cheating measures and trying to prove people are indeed cheating.

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I think there already was a multiplayer flappybird game - it was web based! Dunno if you could gamble on it or not though...

Checkers would be THE BOMB!

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What about Flappy Bird game?
Users have to survive the game to double their btc address

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Quote from: Miitch on September 03, 2014, 01:40:09 PM

I couldn't agree more! I get that gambling sites have to make things work based on maths/odds/chances though if they want to make a profit or guarantee their losses. What I would like to see more of is Peer to Peer betting but that takes such a large number of people before it gains critical mass. I'd be quite happy to put up .1 BTC to compete against someone at a skill based game - if I won I would take .2 BTC minus a small game fee, if I lost I would walk away with nada.

What sort of skill based games do you like? Are you thinking card games like Solitaire? Or numbers games like Sudoku? Or something more complex?

Checkers,Chess or Billiard

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I couldn't agree more! I get that gambling sites have to make things work based on maths/odds/chances though if they want to make a profit or guarantee their losses. What I would like to see more of is Peer to Peer betting but that takes such a large number of people before it gains critical mass. I'd be quite happy to put up .1 BTC to compete against someone at a skill based game - if I won I would take .2 BTC minus a small game fee, if I lost I would walk away with nada.

What sort of skill based games do you like? Are you thinking card games like Solitaire? Or numbers games like Sudoku? Or something more complex?

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Hi,
Let's start discussion on bitcoin gaming.I already saw many provably fair dice and casino websites.But there are so many dice websites popping out.I want something unqiue and creative to start.
I want users to pay on their skills.Like skill based games.

What do you think?

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