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Topic: Bitcoin Gold Pools are SCAM?! (Read 7391 times)

newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
February 17, 2018, 03:40:56 AM
#77
Thanks for the info. What does the pool luck actually mean? Luck luck?

It's how fast the pool finds blocks compared to its proportion of the global hashrate. For instance:
BTG block time: 10 minutes
Pool hashrate: 5 MH/s
Network hashrate: 50 MH/s
Pool has 10% of total hashrate, therefore should find blocks every 100 minutes on average
if it finds blocks with a 90 minutes average, luck = 90 minutes / 100 minutes = 0.9

Anything slightly below 1 is good, because indeed lucky (if you are superstitious), or because it has a slightly faster server connection or something.
Anything slightly above 1 is bad,
grossly above or below = fishy af

Luck is sometimes worded as "effort". Again, less effort to find blocks = good.

pool.gold ... well... just look effort from the last 20 blocks: 1.58, 1.06, 1.87, 6.14, 1.60, 5.90, 4.75, 0.22, 1.21, 4.17, 2.33, 9.59, 3.38, 2.49, 3.73, 0.42, 7.46, 4.42, 3.43, 0.69

Average luck, last 20 blocks... a whopping 3.32

Thanks.

Been mining BTG until price dropped and switched to ZEC.

Was getting approx .02 -.03 BTG per day with a single Gigabyte Windforce 1080 on Suprnova using EWBF miner. Sometimes more/less

Mining ZEC now and getting less actual coin but approx $5 to $6 ever day or day and half. Price keeps rising since ZEC has went on a little run.

newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
January 26, 2018, 10:40:29 AM
#76
Thanks for the info. What does the pool luck actually mean? Luck luck?

It's how fast the pool finds blocks compared to its proportion of the global hashrate. For instance:
BTG block time: 10 minutes
Pool hashrate: 5 MH/s
Network hashrate: 50 MH/s
Pool has 10% of total hashrate, therefore should find blocks every 100 minutes on average
if it finds blocks with a 90 minutes average, luck = 90 minutes / 100 minutes = 0.9

Anything slightly below 1 is good, because indeed lucky (if you are superstitious), or because it has a slightly faster server connection or something.
Anything slightly above 1 is bad,
grossly above or below = fishy af

Luck is sometimes worded as "effort". Again, less effort to find blocks = good.

pool.gold ... well... just look effort from the last 20 blocks: 1.58, 1.06, 1.87, 6.14, 1.60, 5.90, 4.75, 0.22, 1.21, 4.17, 2.33, 9.59, 3.38, 2.49, 3.73, 0.42, 7.46, 4.42, 3.43, 0.69

Average luck, last 20 blocks... a whopping 3.32
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
January 24, 2018, 01:28:20 PM
#75
Thanks for the info. What does the pool luck actually mean? Luck luck?
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
January 24, 2018, 11:51:41 AM
#74
Im starting to feel the same with pool.gold but for some reason I cant configure my EWFB miner to work with supernova. With pool.gold it just started right up but with supernova I cant get it running. I set up my worker on the website but I cant configure my cfg file properly I guess.

Can someone tell me what Im doing wrong? Should I be entering the info differently from pool.gold? Really stumped at this point. Thanks so much

paste your config and i'll check, it should actually be pretty the same like on the other pools, just use a username.workername combo instead of an address

I FIGURED IT OUT!! i wasnt entering my address as xxxxxx.xxxxx!! I forgot the period.

Was mining pool.gold with a single 1080 and was receiving about $3 every other day which is roughly HALF of the sated rate. Ill update with supernovas pay rate after my first payment... So far I can say that my accepted shares increased by double. Same hashrate and everything but supernova seems to be working faster?

Accepted shares don't mean much. Suprnova (and many other pools) use Vardiff. Your difficulty increases if your hashrate increase (but the value of your share increases too). This prevents pools from being spammed by low diff shares from huge rigs, and allows very small rigs to submit more than 1 share per hour.

Ultimately, you should get (total BTG created in a day) * (your hashrate / total network hashrate), and then factor in Pool's luck.
Suprnova luck is normal (like most pools). Pool.Gold's bad luck is a statistical aberration.
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
January 23, 2018, 10:45:21 AM
#73
Im starting to feel the same with pool.gold but for some reason I cant configure my EWFB miner to work with supernova. With pool.gold it just started right up but with supernova I cant get it running. I set up my worker on the website but I cant configure my cfg file properly I guess.

Can someone tell me what Im doing wrong? Should I be entering the info differently from pool.gold? Really stumped at this point. Thanks so much

paste your config and i'll check, it should actually be pretty the same like on the other pools, just use a username.workername combo instead of an address

I FIGURED IT OUT!! i wasnt entering my address as xxxxxx.xxxxx!! I forgot the period.

Was mining pool.gold with a single 1080 and was receiving about $3 every other day which is roughly HALF of the sated rate. Ill update with supernovas pay rate after my first payment... So far I can say that my accepted shares increased by double. Same hashrate and everything but supernova seems to be working faster?
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1240
January 23, 2018, 10:38:33 AM
#72
Im starting to feel the same with pool.gold but for some reason I cant configure my EWFB miner to work with supernova. With pool.gold it just started right up but with supernova I cant get it running. I set up my worker on the website but I cant configure my cfg file properly I guess.

Can someone tell me what Im doing wrong? Should I be entering the info differently from pool.gold? Really stumped at this point. Thanks so much

paste your config and i'll check, it should actually be pretty the same like on the other pools, just use a username.workername combo instead of an address
newbie
Activity: 21
Merit: 0
January 23, 2018, 10:37:14 AM
#71
Im starting to feel the same with pool.gold but for some reason I cant configure my EWFB miner to work with supernova. With pool.gold it just started right up but with supernova I cant get it running. I set up my worker on the website but I cant configure my cfg file properly I guess.

Can someone tell me what Im doing wrong? Should I be entering the info differently from pool.gold? It says my stratum is incorrect? Really stumped at this point. Thanks so much
jr. member
Activity: 397
Merit: 9
January 15, 2018, 02:52:35 AM
#70
Yeah. Most of the pool are scams.  I remembered my wife just last year.  She was so enjoying the pool and even so excited that she was ble o reach the targetted amount for withdrawal.  But when she was bout to withdraw,  it was on pending status. So I asked her what happened,  she said that maybe she needs to wait for 24 to 72 hours for it to be completely process.. But after 3 days, she was still not able to receive the payment but instead sking her to deposit 0.010 btc to complete the process.  That was totally scam! Annoying! I felt my wife's disappointment after weeks of hardwork.

What was the name of the pool ? We should publicize such cases.

newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
January 13, 2018, 02:07:57 PM
#69
pool.gold is most definitely a scam. They have had roughly 25% of hashrate since day 1 and barely pull 12-15% of blocks.
Looks like some sort of Selfish Miner attack or Block Withholding attack.

Suprnova works a-ok.

I stopped mining BTG and sold all my coins altogether though. I just do not trust the project anymore, and don't see its added value to the ecosystem.
jr. member
Activity: 397
Merit: 9
January 10, 2018, 07:54:58 AM
#68
I just noticed that  pool.gold today morning (10.01.2018) transformed their website and changed pool address to new.pool.gold .

I was curious how it works now and started miner just to test it ... My miner showed about 40 shares accepted in few minutes ... and on their page it showed 13 shares (3 hours later)...  I cant belive how greedy scammers they are ...


Beware of the new.pool.gold ! It's a scam for sure .
newbie
Activity: 143
Merit: 0
January 09, 2018, 10:20:10 PM
#67
 Yup its a scam .  I only received about half of the projected amount , plus they took some more because it was below the payment threshold.   Also they delayed my payments by 36 hours .   I guess they think its better to steal a quick buck instead of building a nice business .  


I quit mining bitcoin gold at all ... It seems to be a scam from the beginning to the end.

What you think is better to mine right now from this two :   Zcash or Monero ?


I'm mining my nvidias on Zencash and Zclassic .  Same algo as Zcash .     20,000 sols generates $263 a day and adds $10 a day to my electric bill.

    I have my RX 570's dual mining ETH/Decred.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 100
January 09, 2018, 07:51:28 AM
#66
Yeah. Most of the pool are scams.  I remembered my wife just last year.  She was so enjoying the pool and even so excited that she was ble o reach the targetted amount for withdrawal.  But when she was bout to withdraw,  it was on pending status. So I asked her what happened,  she said that maybe she needs to wait for 24 to 72 hours for it to be completely process.. But after 3 days, she was still not able to receive the payment but instead sking her to deposit 0.010 btc to complete the process.  That was totally scam! Annoying! I felt my wife's disappointment after weeks of hardwork.
jr. member
Activity: 397
Merit: 9
January 09, 2018, 02:40:52 AM
#65
  Yup its a scam .  I only received about half of the projected amount , plus they took some more because it was below the payment threshold.   Also they delayed my payments by 36 hours .   I guess they think its better to steal a quick buck instead of building a nice business . 


I quit mining bitcoin gold at all ... It seems to be a scam from the beginning to the end.

What you think is better to mine right now from this two :   Zcash or Monero ?
newbie
Activity: 143
Merit: 0
January 08, 2018, 09:41:18 PM
#64
Is it confirmed that pool.gold is a scam ? 

I mined all night and submitted and had over 4000 accepted shares ... but next day when I woke up i saw ... that i have  only few accepted shares and my unconfirmed balance is 0.00010312 BTG ... Its ridiculous ... If that is how OFFICIAL pool works .. i dont have any words for this ...

Additionally i noticed one more thing ... when i run EWBF miner i see accepted shares ... lets say i have 100 shares ... but on statistic site on pool.gold i see i.e. 30 shares ... I think ok .. its a delay right ?   Wrong ! As soon as i stop the miner it automatically  stops counting shares on statistics page and I never saw the proper number of accepted shares on page which I saw in miner..

Sorry for my bad english ... I hope you catch the sense.


  Yup its a scam .  I only received about half of the projected amount , plus they took some more because it was below the payment threshold.   Also they delayed my payments by 36 hours .   I guess they think its better to steal a quick buck instead of building a nice business . 
jr. member
Activity: 397
Merit: 9
January 08, 2018, 11:38:33 AM
#63
Is it confirmed that pool.gold is a scam ? 

I mined all night and submitted and had over 4000 accepted shares ... but next day when I woke up i saw ... that i have  only few accepted shares and my unconfirmed balance is 0.00010312 BTG ... Its ridiculous ... If that is how OFFICIAL pool works .. i dont have any words for this ...

Additionally i noticed one more thing ... when i run EWBF miner i see accepted shares ... lets say i have 100 shares ... but on statistic site on pool.gold i see i.e. 30 shares ... I think ok .. its a delay right ?   Wrong ! As soon as i stop the miner it automatically  stops counting shares on statistics page and I never saw the proper number of accepted shares on page which I saw in miner..

Sorry for my bad english ... I hope you catch the sense.
ocl
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
December 24, 2017, 07:44:46 AM
#62
didn't get any payment from pool.gold for nearly 20 hours with 1.2ksol/s
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
December 19, 2017, 07:38:49 PM
#61
pool.gold eventually had issues with payouts. They gave out a "negative" balance and information is inaccurate to what was actually paid out to the miners. The following transaction IDs will be able to help and confirm my claim.

https://btgexp.com/tx/ee0ce26b2b82c387e44df54d727457e29ba18595de78f55a9e93e60722359941

https://btgexp.com/tx/b32870acfa6ae4448d2f412bb0232bf65e7f7d20215d69a81da1e8866c1158fd

I dont know why these two transactions are almost identical. A possible "DOUBLE SPEND" Huh

Any clarifications from POOL.GOLD ??

https://twitter.com/pool_gold/status/942868436367151104

 Huh Huh Huh
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
December 18, 2017, 06:22:24 AM
#60
ok as post above I was mining pool.gold with 2000 sols started bout midday yesterday with them, but late arvo noticed something not right with the figues so in the evening I looked at suprnova and it turns out when you click on their btg pool all the stats are shown about their pool but its not shown on the main page... So I took 1000 sols over to suprnova and by mid arvo today suprnova had caught up with pool.gold and both paid out 0.01 at near the same time and pool.gold had around 8 hours head start with 2000 sols... pretty poor on pool.golds part.. Goodby pool.gold hello suprnova.cc PS I get 500 - 545 sols on my gtx 1080 cards with EWBF 3gb or 8gb not much difference.
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
December 17, 2017, 06:11:46 PM
#59
I had the same problem with pool.gold Never got any payout and hashrate was a fraction of my actual hashrate.  Now I have been using https://btg.suprnova.cc/ for 48 hours works great already earned: 0.024 BTG paid to my own wallet.
I am using a 1080 with GPU Miner EWBF NVIDIA hashing about 485 sol/s:
https://btg.suprnova.cc/index.php?page=gettingstarted
newbie
Activity: 2
Merit: 0
December 17, 2017, 07:33:23 AM
#58
Im with pool.gold with 2000 sol/s and not getting anywhere near what the calculators say. Next pay out I may considder suprnova but the main page says no one is in the BTG pool!? Im more thinking I might just go back to another coin.
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