bitcoin hyip are they a gamble? - page 3.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on July 29, 2016, 04:53:11 AM

Again let us define gamble

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gam·ble
ˈɡambəl/
verb
1.
play games of chance for money; bet.
"she was fond of gambling on cards and horses"
synonyms:	bet, place/lay a bet on something, stake money on something, back the horses, game; informalplay the ponies
"he started to gamble more often"
2.
take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
"the British could only gamble that something would turn up"
synonyms:	take a chance, take a risk; More
noun
1.
an act of gambling; an enterprise undertaken or attempted with a risk of loss and a chance of profit or success.
synonyms:	bet, wager, speculation; More

Basically investing on HYIP falls under the number two category of the verb meaning of gamble. You invest in HYIP so you can get 2x 3x your investment in just a matter of short period of time. The problem with this kind of method is that those who joined in late will have a huge potential to be scammed.

I'd argue that in general there is a huge potential to be scammed, so in a way it is gambling, as you're just as or maybe even more likely to lose than to win. Just saying I don't have much experience myself with investing in HYIPs, but that's the impression I got from researching the matter.

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Quote from: bitcoin110011 on July 29, 2016, 02:46:12 AM

all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ?

Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them.

Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins .
I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time.

Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit.
I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last .
Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites.

I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far .

Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new .

see the top banner on my website for the details on it .

www.btcjack.com

They can't be considered as gambling,

But HYIP do have the same risk or much more in comparison to gambling,
If you do know when to join and when to quit then HYIP is good for you, but if you continuously invested into it then you will be a victim of scam later on.
While in gambling, You put your money at stake knowing that you have a 50% chance of winning or losing.

I think it's about gambling too. Because we risky our money into HYIP and gamble is the HYIP will scam fastly or we can still withdrawal our money.

Can't Clearly understand what you are trying to say,

But HYIP investments are far more different in gambling,
You can try to look for the definition f gambling in google, and compare it to HYIP.

Investing in HYIP most of the times are scam and will produce a profit if you come in and go out at the right time.
in Investing you don' put money at stake at all in a percentage basis not like in gambling.

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No making money through hyip sites is not equal to gambling. Gambling is also risky but all is depending on our luck to win or loose. Hyip sites works as long as money is circulating towards there accounts. In all hyip programs early investors have chance to make money while people who join later always loose money. It is more greed and stupidity to approach any hyip site because there is no result in the end but sure loss. In gambling you can win too but here is just loss.

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Quote from: bitcoin110011 on July 29, 2016, 02:46:12 AM

all the bitcoin hyips are out there and people are afraid to invest in them because " its too good to be true" ?

Well let me share with you that i have made alot of money on these hyips because you need to know when to come into them.

Let me give you an example with hashocean , they operated for a long time . I made alot of money with them because i was there in the beginning i deposited a bitcoin over a year ago there , and everyday i would get 0.02btc for over a year thats about 7 bitcoins .
I always new they were a gamble but lets face it everyone knows . Its just about getting in at the right time.

Once i made my initail bitcoin back everything afterwards was just pure profit.
I never reinvested because i did not know how long it would last .
Most good sites last quite awhile especially the ones that have advertining as well on there sites.

I found a new one that came out a few days ago and has paid our everything so far .

Is it a risk ? for sure , but there are good odds of it making you money because its so new .

see the top banner on my website for the details on it .

www.btcjack.com

There is money to be made with places like HYIP and as you say you need to get in first since its a ponzi. But that cloud mining is much better then HYIPs that often don't even last a month. The longest are half a year and that is lucky.

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If you put any amount of bitcoin on anything considered a "hyip" (a bitcointalk fairy term), you are a full retard. They are all the same and all designed to fleece the tards looking to get rich quick on this forum. And hey, go for it. Despite OP's shilling, they'll lose you money but it's your (retarded) choice.

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It's always much to good to be true and much too high return to be sustainable. Hence the name HYIP high yeild investment program. No matter how they pretty it up or what cover story they use it's simply a ponzi with nothing to offer you and no shares, there is not even a business it's all fake. You can make money off of it but you can also lose all that money plus what you made and if you keep putting money in and lose it all it can be worse then gambling, at least gambling you have a fair chance.

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Quote from: shanem on July 29, 2016, 10:43:51 AM

HYIP is even riskier than gambling. For only a few percentage gain, you have to risk your capital.
There is no way to determine when a HYIP will be closed. I would rather gamble as the odds to win is close to 50%.

very true, because the system uses the open hole hyip closed hole. And it could not be determined until when they could do such a system, which is surely all that do these things are going to get a very large losses. HYIP is worse than gambling and gambling than investing very badly and very bad investment than trading

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HYIP is even riskier than gambling. For only a few percentage gain, you have to risk your capital.
There is no way to determine when a HYIP will be closed. I would rather gamble as the odds to win is close to 50%.

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I think you are lucky enough to get good results from hashocean because they last long enough, but not all HYIP will last a long time, and it is difficult to predict, how long each new site will survive. even if you say there is a chance to make a profit, I am still not interested in HYIP, this is too risky. there are still many ways better than that.

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While investing in HYIP sites aren't directly gambling, you're still gambling your way into profit. We don't know if the site would pay us, and if they don't, then that means we have lost all our money. If they pay, we don't know until when. We don't know if we're even going to profit. It's basically an either win-or-lose thing, so if you don't want to wait for a long time before knowing if you would make money out of HYIP site or not, you should just gamble your money. The results are the same anyway.

Apparently, this thread is just a way of OP to low-key promote his website.

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HYIPs are worse than gambling. In gambling, you and the one who bet against you are playing the game as equals. The same rules are applied to both of you. (except the house. house has an advantage over players)

In HYIPs, it is all about stealing fast and getting away before it is too late. If you are the one who is late then you are fcked.

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Quote from: xuan87 on July 29, 2016, 06:48:28 AM

I think HYIP is still categorized as gambling, investing in HYIP is risking your money with huge ROI, its not recommended to join HYIP, I have lost some money because of tempted with high profit, but in the end all of HYIP is a scam, even a brand new HYIP is potential to be a scam, ponzi and HYIP is the two things that you need to avoid

Yeah, I agree with your opinion. Because after analyzing deeper again about some sites or ponzi hyips, I concluded that it was indeed the site hyip or ponzi is something similar and very detrimental to us in a long period of time. I think the short term may be profitable but that last only a few payments. For they pay using money user not profit

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They are gamble, and you are one of the lucky ones who made some money, many other just lost everything. I also think that hyip investment is gambling, just that hous have a huge advantage in this case. If they take as much as they planned they will run away much faster then usual.
I don't think people shoud gamble with hyip and ponzi schemes, in that way you jist encourage them to scam even more people. You are the one with profit, next 10 people lost a lot of money, basically you are earning on other people misery.

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I think HYIP is still categorized as gambling, investing in HYIP is risking your money with huge ROI, its not recommended to join HYIP, I have lost some money because of tempted with high profit, but in the end all of HYIP is a scam, even a brand new HYIP is potential to be a scam, ponzi and HYIP is the two things that you need to avoid

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Of course HYIP are the gambling, even make any investment in HYIP program is more risky than to play on online gambling site, basically all HYIP sites are ponzi scam and they need new investors to pay the old ones, if people don't trust on them than it can close their business very quickly.

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i think all these types of things are usually gamble like things.

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Ok there is a small chance to make money with a hyip if you have referrals and earn commissions or if the owners are not greedy and the site lasts long before it eventually collapses.
But even if you end in profit how do you feel that these money are coming from newer member's deposits who never got their seed money back?I know that many of them are aware of the risk but there are also newbies who think that they invest in a real product.

And no hyip is not a gamble..

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Quote from: SAMKUSH on July 29, 2016, 05:00:53 AM

If you have alot to invest I can see how it can make you alot of money. I think where people go wrong is they invest everything all at once so if it goes wrong they cany find another site to invest on. I wouldn't recommend it to people who don't know what they're doing but I can see how it would work.

Hmmzz, indeed the way you is very profitable and it's easier in use than any other way, but it is certainly very dangerous for those who only know or learn some science you have to say. Because these Sciences rely on virtue of their investing to the sites using the system a ponzi or hype

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If you have alot to invest I can see how it can make you alot of money. I think where people go wrong is they invest everything all at once so if it goes wrong they cany find another site to invest on. I wouldn't recommend it to people who don't know what they're doing but I can see how it would work.

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Again let us define gamble

Code:

gam·ble
ˈɡambəl/
verb
1.
play games of chance for money; bet.
"she was fond of gambling on cards and horses"
synonyms:	bet, place/lay a bet on something, stake money on something, back the horses, game; informalplay the ponies
"he started to gamble more often"
2.
take risky action in the hope of a desired result.
"the British could only gamble that something would turn up"
synonyms:	take a chance, take a risk; More
noun
1.
an act of gambling; an enterprise undertaken or attempted with a risk of loss and a chance of profit or success.
synonyms:	bet, wager, speculation; More

Basically investing on HYIP falls under the number two category of the verb meaning of gamble. You invest in HYIP so you can get 2x 3x your investment in just a matter of short period of time. The problem with this kind of method is that those who joined in late will have a huge potential to be scammed.

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