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It is a matter of perspective. Basically, this is an expression to tell a person how much he is willing to take risks. In crypto investment, there is always the risk of loss if you have not done your homework properly. Bounding your money for a significant amount of time can come into this category because this is the amount of money you will not be able to use because of the market condition. HODL, in my opinion, can only be applicable to BTC investment. You can not hold altcoins for a longer period because they might be wiped out of the market in a year or two.
It is always better to invest your extra money that you may never use in the near future.
Investing in Bitcoin also contains certain risks, although at the moment we see how the price of Bitcoin is confidently trying to continue to rise, despite the fact that the rest of the market remains relatively close to the bottom. Investing in Bitcoin is long-term and if you buy Bitcoin, you should understand that waiting for a bull market may take several years, so you should only invest in it with money that you can afford to invest for a long period.
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  When we say "invest what you can afford to lose," it means to me that even if you don't make a profit, it's fine, or you think that's a loss. That's just what stuck in my mind. Until now, my view has been the same.

  I guess I've gotten used to it, so those who believe in a quote like this are full-pledge risk-takers who also have a deep understanding of the crypto or bitcoin business industry in this field. As long as before investing, you should always pay DYOR; don't forget that.
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It is a matter of perspective. Basically, this is an expression to tell a person how much he is willing to take risks. In crypto investment, there is always the risk of loss if you have not done your homework properly. Bounding your money for a significant amount of time can come into this category because this is the amount of money you will not be able to use because of the market condition. HODL, in my opinion, can only be applicable to BTC investment. You can not hold altcoins for a longer period because they might be wiped out of the market in a year or two.
It is always better to invest your extra money that you may never use in the near future.
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It is not right to do anything beyond the means. Be it from Bitcoin or anything else. Bitcoin is variable and dynamic. Individuals with intelligence can be more present to use Bitcoin and help increase their financial security. Investment may be necessary, with self-protection and knowledge individuals may be able to invest. Curiosity and tolerance for new areas are qualities that can help you adapt successfully. Proper consideration of personal circumstances and financial status is important when investing in Bitcoin and can help you become a reliable investor. Bitcoin doesn't mean "Invest what you can lose" I think Bitcoin means "Invest Bitcoin what you want to gain". The best way for investors is to hold. Bitcoin Hold is a medium that is the only way investors can trust the expected results in the near future.
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In bitcoin the Investment is safe , there is no room for you to lose, the people who Invest in bitcoin will always be winners, can bitcoin go down a lot in price? Of course yes, this is an opportunity for the most intelligent people to buy bitcoin and be able to guarantee their treasures more, so in this sense things when they are not very focused on doing things well, they can do it in many ways , if that works. Thus , it may happen that some with good intentions can buy more bitcoin and can build a future for themselves and their family, if that is what is sought , the best investment guarantees Happiness in the Future.

A safe investment in Bitcoin depends on how one invests, whether they are patient enough to have some strategy or just go in without any knowledge with money they still need and a high level of panic.

It's not that there is no room for loss in Bitcoin, there definitely is and those who panic will do so when the price crashes and they don't have any strategy.

A good investment is one that they understand, and know what to do with.
There is no panic when the value of the investment drops and still has reserves to buy back.
People who are smart in investment will benefit in the end, but those who are stupid and too panicky or too greedy, will only end up with losses.
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In bitcoin the Investment is safe , there is no room for you to lose, the people who Invest in bitcoin will always be winners, can bitcoin go down a lot in price? Of course yes, this is an opportunity for the most intelligent people to buy bitcoin and be able to guarantee their treasures more, so in this sense things when they are not very focused on doing things well, they can do it in many ways , if that works. Thus , it may happen that some with good intentions can buy more bitcoin and can build a future for themselves and their family, if that is what is sought , the best investment guarantees Happiness in the Future.
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 For me, we can still follow this phrase "INVEST WHAT WE CAN AFFORD TO LOSE" and just continue to do the DCA  thing if we want to maximize our bitcoin investment. It's not that we are still hesitant but as long as bitcoin remains to volatile, it will still be considered a high risk assert regardless if some of the people now consider it as a safe haven asset. Risking our money without high guarantees to end in profits is already a sign that we invest on our faith for bitcoin.

However, its also a good idea to invest what we are capable for long term hodling, but definitely let's do it with caution. Bitcoin, no matter how sound and profitable it is in the market, but when volatility strikes in and pull down the price of bitcoin, then investing it at a high caution should always be the best option.
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To invest with such idea in mind simply means that; bitcoin is not shitcoin, it is only shitcoins you can afford to lose but when your investment is in bitcoin, the meaning should change to what you can afford to HODL. I think it is time we stop relating bitcoin to what you can afford to lose but it should be what you can afford to HODL, if you HODL for a long time, it means you are holding in order to reap the benefits of it in the future and a mindset changed to what I can afford to gain and not lose. Shitcoin can be what we can afford to lose and Bitcoin is what we can afford to HODL for a long term to reap good profits.
Sure, Bitcoin isn't categorized as a shitcoin. Bitcoin is the most recommended coin for crypto investment. I agree that we can use whatever the amount of money that we can hold for a long time if it is related to Bitcoin investment. Its cycle is clear enough, it is actually not a too high risk investment. But people still assume it is a high risk investment because it has a high volatility in price. That volatility makes people to decide investing with the money that they afford to lose only. I think it is no problem people have any concept for their own investment. As long as the concept won't risk their investment, it is always okay to apply. People only want to spend the amount of money that they afford to lose in Bitcoin or shitcoin, it is because they don't want to expect too much in crypto investment. They also minimize the potential of a huge loss by using this concept. Although it looks having a negative mindset, but I think it is a secure way for them.

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Investing in Bitcoin means being part of one of the world's most revolutionary technologies. It's not just an investment in today but potentially one of the most valuable assets in the future. So, instead of wasting time and money on 'shitcoins', consider starting now it's not too late. The focus should be on investing what you are willing to HODL for the long run, rather than what you can afford to lose.

To invest with such idea in mind simply means that; bitcoin is not shitcoin, it is only shitcoins you can afford to lose but when your investment is in bitcoin, the meaning should change to what you can afford to HODL. I think it is time we stop relating bitcoin to what you can afford to lose but it should be what you can afford to HODL, if you HODL for a long time, it means you are holding in order to reap the benefits of it in the future and a mindset changed to what I can afford to gain and not lose. Shitcoin can be what we can afford to lose and Bitcoin is what we can afford to HODL for a long term to reap good profits.
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I think you've gotta be careful with it, as with any other investment. Don't get me wrong, its the top dog in cryptocurrencies no doubt.  but that doesn't mean there aren't still risks and stuff we don't totally get yet. and  You made a good point about securing your assets and how the market can be unpredictable.  The whole only invest what you can lose thing makes sense cause you never know what will happen, whether it's the price jumping around or some security problem popping up.  It's like walking on a tightrope, just takes some balance and taking it slow and steady.  What do you think about spreading your investments around to avoid putting all your eggs in one basket? That might help even things out if one goes south.  But hey that's just my two cents, Im no expert!
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While risks and scams still exist, Bitcoin itself has proven its worth, emerging as the premier cryptocurrency, demonstrating its dominance over others. The short-term fluctuations are there, but historical data consistently indicates growth over time.So, why should we continue to echo the sentiment of "invest what you can afford to lose" when referring to Bitcoin? I believe this phrase is more suited to gambling or trading, which we all know come with inherent risks.
We do understand that Bitcoin is the best investment in crypto business which has lesser risks than altcoins, especially for long-term holding. However, that doesn't mean this doesn't have risks. That's why you still have to apply "Invest the amount that you can afford costs". When investing in Bitcoin, no one knows what will happen. This is not only related to Bitcoin prices on the market which will go up and down or even skyrocket someday in the bullish era. But the risk is also related to the security of our assets, namely whether one day we will forget how to access or lose the most important information for accessing the wallet. This is also part of the risk. So even if you invest in Bitcoin, it doesn't mean there are zero risks. This is my personal opinion.

Honestly, it's not just the risk of our seed phrase being lost or hacked by hackers, there are a lot of other potential risks as well.  I also disagree with what OP said because the future is unpredictable.  bitcoin has a great history and past, which doesn't mean it will continue to do so in the future as well. 

OP, if you think investing in bitcoin is risk-free, do you have any proof or is it just your baseless thoughts?  optimism is good, but we also need to be realistic because otherwise we will pay a very high price for our subjectivity.
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Even after reading this post, all I can advise everyone is to still invest what they can afford to lose!. Do not think that just because Bitcoin has done well over the years we should neglect risk management. I think of investment in a way that once I've put my money in there, I have lost it (just to keep myself from being too anxious and always checking). I have lost quite some amount of money in crypto, and for the times that it happened, I never felt shocked cause I always acknowledged that I could lose it all. So, investment as a whole is a risk and one should be risk-conscious when being a part of any investment (be it Bitcoin or not.)

At a point, I wanted to support Op's point but after reading through other comments, it made me realise one thing. I have indeed lost money in the crypto space. So, I agree with what you said because during the period in which I lost those money, I didn't panic, as I had decided that I could either win or lose with this money. That's why these days, I play it safe when it comes to the period I invest in Bitcoin and the period I trade as I use mostly the smart trend to do that
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While risks and scams still exist, Bitcoin itself has proven its worth, emerging as the premier cryptocurrency, demonstrating its dominance over others. The short-term fluctuations are there, but historical data consistently indicates growth over time.So, why should we continue to echo the sentiment of "invest what you can afford to lose" when referring to Bitcoin? I believe this phrase is more suited to gambling or trading, which we all know come with inherent risks.
We do understand that Bitcoin is the best investment in crypto business which has lesser risks than altcoins, especially for long-term holding. However, that doesn't mean this doesn't have risks. That's why you still have to apply "Invest the amount that you can afford costs". When investing in Bitcoin, no one knows what will happen. This is not only related to Bitcoin prices on the market which will go up and down or even skyrocket someday in the bullish era. But the risk is also related to the security of our assets, namely whether one day we will forget how to access or lose the most important information for accessing the wallet. This is also part of the risk. So even if you invest in Bitcoin, it doesn't mean there are zero risks. This is my personal opinion.
Yes, you're right about Bitcoin. It's a crypto giant and safer than altcoins. But "safe" doesn't mean "risk-free." Investors should only invest what they can afford to lose. Your point about market swings and security risks is correct. Price dynamics might make asset security seem unimportant. Anyone can lose keys or wallet access protocols. This emphasises the importance of both market movements and investment security.

Remember that with Bitcoin,  price fluctuation is inevitable. The bullish era may make us dream of huge gains, but we must keep grounded. No one has a crystal ball, and the market is known to humble even the most experienced participants. Every investor, young or experienced, should remember your point concerning Bitcoin's price risks.

Finally, Bitcoin's "inevitable" success problem must be addressed. While many of us are bullish about Bitcoin, we must stay sceptical and avoid naïve optimism. Despite Bitcoin's lead, the crypto sector is known for its quick changes and shocks. Your balanced optimism, admitting dangers but believing in possibility, is reasonable. This deliberate interaction keeps the Bitcoin community fresh and ready for the future.
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I also want to put more into crypto but I don't really want to suggest it to others since it could destroy their life.
We don't know how they would take our advice, and some might really invest more than what they could afford, and we all know that crypto or bitcoin is volatile so it might end up the other way around.
There are times that people would take our advice seriously specially when they see how much we gain from doing it, and the result might be different for them so I don't want to make investment advice so lightly.

Even if you don't introduce them, if they have the need to invest then I think one day they will also invest in bitcoin because the popularity of bitcoin is spreading everywhere on the internet and it is not difficult to come across it. Sometimes referrals and consultations also mean we are helping them avoid Internet scams if they educate themselves about bitcoin.

But recommending bitcoin to others also carries risks for us and them, if they do not follow our advice and invest greedily and hastily, they will pay a very high price. Not to mention, if they lose money, they will most likely blame us, so giving advice is not easy.
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I also want to put more into crypto but I don't really want to suggest it to others since it could destroy their life.
We don't know how they would take our advice, and some might really invest more than what they could afford, and we all know that crypto or bitcoin is volatile so it might end up the other way around.
There are times that people would take our advice seriously specially when they see how much we gain from doing it, and the result might be different for them so I don't want to make investment advice so lightly.
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The phrase "invest what you can afford to lose" has long been the go to advice when it comes to Bitcoin investments.
This is a basic rule and should still be apply regardless how certain or profitable the investment is. We know investing in Bitcoin is really worth it and we can attest to this fact (especially the investors who are long been here). But, despite this, we can't still recommend to someone who like to invest in Bitcoin that he/she can use any amount because the profits are guaranteed. There's still risk and we're not certain what the future holds for Bitcoin.

Therefore it just right to remind them about this common phrase although it's on the investor's discretion if they will follow this rule when they engage themselves. In the end, it's up to us since we have the right to disregard this if we are firm to what we believe in.
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The phrase "invest what you can afford to lose" has long been the go to advice when it comes to Bitcoin investments. In the past, it seemed to be a norm, a safety net, but it's time to reconsider its relevance. Over the years, Bitcoin investment has undergone a significant transformation. What was once a realm fraught with doubts, fears of capital loss, and scam risks has evolved into a more stable and less volatile investment landscape.

While risks and scams still exist, Bitcoin itself has proven its worth, emerging as the premier cryptocurrency, demonstrating its dominance over others. The short-term fluctuations are there, but historical data consistently indicates growth over time.So, why should we continue to echo the sentiment of "invest what you can afford to lose" when referring to Bitcoin? I believe this phrase is more suited to gambling or trading, which we all know come with inherent risks.

For those looking to HODL Bitcoin for the long term, with no intentions of actively trading, the focus should shift. Instead of investing what you can afford to lose, consider investing what you have to invest. Unlike other traditional investments like real estate or the stock market, Bitcoin allows entry with even a small capital  as low as $5 to $10, which isn't something I will even want to lose.such an investment should not fall under the category of what you can afford to lose.

Investing in Bitcoin means being part of one of the world's most revolutionary technologies. It's not just an investment in today but potentially one of the most valuable assets in the future. So, instead of wasting time and money on 'shitcoins', consider starting now it's not too late. The focus should be on investing what you are willing to HODL for the long run, rather than what you can afford to lose.

There is nothing wrong with the sentence invest with money you can afford to lose, it does not refer to the sentence about the decline in the price of bitcoin but rather about how an investor should use their cold money to invest in bitcoin, because if they do that, they will only sell the bitcoin they have (hodl) when they need money or are in an emergency.

Don't invest in Bitcoin with a random strategy because when you have money difficulties, you will definitely sell the Bitcoin that you hold, that's why always invest in Bitcoin with money that you can afford to lose.
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The default advice every investor should have at his finger tips is always for him to invest what he can afford to loose.

Nobody invests money to loose it but it is also one of the options although not always said, it is a silent precaution. To say the least, people are supposed to have factored that into their plans and settled it in their minds before they consider coming to invest any money into any kind of business.
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While risks and scams still exist, Bitcoin itself has proven its worth, emerging as the premier cryptocurrency, demonstrating its dominance over others. The short-term fluctuations are there, but historical data consistently indicates growth over time.So, why should we continue to echo the sentiment of "invest what you can afford to lose" when referring to Bitcoin? I believe this phrase is more suited to gambling or trading, which we all know come with inherent risks.
We do understand that Bitcoin is the best investment in crypto business which has lesser risks than altcoins, especially for long-term holding. However, that doesn't mean this doesn't have risks. That's why you still have to apply "Invest the amount that you can afford costs". When investing in Bitcoin, no one knows what will happen. This is not only related to Bitcoin prices on the market which will go up and down or even skyrocket someday in the bullish era. But the risk is also related to the security of our assets, namely whether one day we will forget how to access or lose the most important information for accessing the wallet. This is also part of the risk. So even if you invest in Bitcoin, it doesn't mean there are zero risks. This is my personal opinion.
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While risks and scams still exist, Bitcoin itself has proven its worth, emerging as the premier cryptocurrency, demonstrating its dominance over others. The short-term fluctuations are there, but historical data consistently indicates growth over time.So, why should we continue to echo the sentiment of "invest what you can afford to lose" when referring to Bitcoin? I believe this phrase is more suited to gambling or trading, which we all know come with inherent risks.

Of course gambling and trading are the two investment that deserve this phrase most, but bitcoin investment also deserve it because how risky bitcoin investment is because it is not a physical asset that can be seen by everyone anytime like real estate and gold investment.
One of the main reason why the phrase is always used on bitcoin investment even with the assurance of its profit when hold for long is because of human error which happen due to transactions through mistakes that could lead to lost of money and no refund, and misplacement of wallet private keys which means your bitcoin is gone.
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