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legendary
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September 02, 2020, 05:10:29 AM
#14
But here is my problem: I don’t understand how money is supposed to be created.

Knowing you have this problem, you should not have such strong opinions. Because, you know, you may have missed or misunderstood something.
So, no offense, but your point is completely invalid.
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September 02, 2020, 04:56:44 AM
#13
I think Bitcoin came to develop every life of the societies. Different countries of the world has been testified, how bitcoin has changed their economy positively in this pandemic.
Many has used it as an investment to earn profit in their organization.
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September 02, 2020, 04:52:46 AM
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The first step to bitcoin adoption is to accept that it's a currency. After all, it's competing against fiat money, which is also a currency (in terms of the goal to decentralize the financial system). Imagine inventing the time machine, but after introducing it to the public, it was accepted and used as a teleportation machine instead. That time machine will never serve its purpose. 

Let's accept the fact that we are living in a more advanced technology nowadays and digital currencies should be treated as a normal currency. There are a lot of people who are not treating digital currency because it only exists in a virtual world. But they should understand the existence of a blockchain technology and most of the people are still not knowledgeable about it. They think that bitcoin is just a currency that has no value, it is a fake asset for investments which is not. Bitcoin adoption is hard to achieve if we can't help the bitcoin's reputation to become good in our society.

If people can invent a phone a light and use it in our daily lives, why can't we apply and adapt it also in bitcoin?
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September 02, 2020, 12:50:38 AM
#11
Sad how most of those new to the scene think of Bitcoin as an investment instead of what it really is for and as intended by the creator. Though they can be used as an investment right now due to how it's volatility tends to bring more profit in the long term, in the end, it'd be limited by supply which would severely limit its ability to become an investment.

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Well, with how Bitcoin developed, it isn't really surprising. Still to deny either is denying bitcoin itself, since Bitcoin can be considered both, an investment as well as a currency. Plus, it's usage as a currency is severely limited due to it being volatile, which makes merchants doublethink on whether they should adopt bitcoin as payment or not. After 10 years, you can only see limited amounts of shops that actually accept Bitcoin as payment. Most of the usage right now comes to either trading or worldwide transactions to make it a lot easier.
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September 01, 2020, 11:53:33 PM
#10
This is a mistake.

For bitcoin is not a currency; it is not money—it is a speculative hedge, an investment, a form of trading, and, quite possibly, the great white whale of finance.


It's very unfortunate that a lot of people do not see and think Bitcoin is a currency but an investment asset.  If you take a look at the whitepaper of Bitcoin, Satoshi developed Bitcoin to be a digital currency rather than a digital investment asset. Personally, I will be very glad if people can see Bitcoin as a currency rather than an asset.
This is still the arguments going until now,there are People believe that this is a Asset while others believe this is a currency that must need to circulate.
and that is the serious problem because Many tries to impose that they want
Bitcoin to be a currency but all they do is Buy and HOLD things that i see against the
Beliefs of being a Currency right?like each government are not allowing people to Handle too much Money on hand because those are need to circulate,
specially in Coins that has only limited amounts and to pricey for creating.

legendary
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September 01, 2020, 11:35:20 PM
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Initially I thought bitcoin was a currency that was easier to use on the internet, since 2011 I saw many people looking for money on the internet, I saw the difficulty of people at that time getting money from the internet, they had to use a paypal payment service and had to activate a credit card, at that time not everyone had a credit card and it was very difficult to follow any online business, after bitcoin came it became easier now when getting paid with bitcoin, but nowadays people think more of it as a hedge or just a digital asset, even though I used to think of it. as an internet currency that is easier than others, to be honest I still use bitcoin to buy domains, hosting and also vps
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September 01, 2020, 11:21:14 PM
#8
Bitcoin has evolved so much since it's inception, so obviously, it become a form of digital money, an speculative asset, store of value. It's really up to those people who believed in it on how they're going to treat bitcoin. But to replace USD? I don't think we can get to that goal yet, but as I have said, if I have a chance to use it a form of money to buy and then pay someone then I will used it, been during it for the last 2 years and I don't have a problem with that. Although there could be people that will argue to just hold on it.
legendary
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September 01, 2020, 11:01:22 PM
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For bitcoin is not a currency; it is not money—it is a speculative hedge, an investment, a form of trading, and, quite possibly, the great white whale of finance.
Bitcoin is not a currency, not money. It is an asset, digital asset in more correct term.

As an asset, you can hold it even it has no value. You can imagine an asset like antique equipments. They have almost no value in the past (centuries ago) but now if you found them, own them, you have a fortune. Bitcoin is different than that, at least if you are talking about it at the moment. It has big value, thousand of dollars for one bitcoin. In the past, 10 years ago, it has zero value.

Stop calling bitcoin as a currency, money, and consider it as your own asset, your own bank.
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September 01, 2020, 09:54:21 PM
#6
For bitcoin is not a currency; it is not money—it is a speculative hedge, an investment, a form of trading, and, quite possibly, the great white whale of finance.

I've said it a lot before, and I'm going to say it again. Bitcoin is for whatever you want to use it for. You think bitcoin is only mostly an investment and a speculative hedge? Whatever, I'm going to use it as a currency anyway. Why? Because I can.  Wink And that's the whole point of bitcoin. Freedom and sovereignty with your money.
legendary
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September 01, 2020, 09:35:58 PM
#5
This is a mistake.
For bitcoin is not a currency; it is not money—it is a speculative hedge, an investment, a form of trading, and, quite possibly, the great white whale of finance.
that's just your opinion

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After all, even if it has a host of technical limitations and flaws,
show me one invention in the entire human history that doesn't have limitations and flaws.

the trick has always been to create something that is better than its predecessors, to solve problems in a better way than others and to improve different aspects of the existing systems (in this case payment system) and bitcoin has done that very well.

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And bitcoin is not as easy to move money as
you are right, it is so much easier to move bitcoin than it is to move money because there is no bank (aka the middle man) to interfere and cause problems and slow things down or even block you.

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But it’s a hedge, or an investment, or a speculative play, or a currency trading instrument, and those are all ways of getting one to your place of business, or to the point of travel, or to a lender. And, hence, it’s all there in one place, in crypto.
again that's just your opinion.

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In that sense, bitcoin is both a new form of money
you don't have consistency in your statements, you just contradicted yourself!

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Bitcoin is hardly the first effort to create some sort of secure virtual currency that was supposed to replace the US dollar, or a basket of other currencies, or whatever.
bitcoin IS the first successful decentralized currency that was created and has been running for more than a decade servicing lots of people all around the world 24/7.
but it was never meant to replace anything.

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September 01, 2020, 09:31:40 PM
#4
It's very unfortunate that a lot of people do not see and think Bitcoin is a currency but an investment asset.  If you take a look at the whitepaper of Bitcoin, Satoshi developed Bitcoin to be a digital currency rather than a digital investment asset. Personally, I will be very glad if people can see Bitcoin as a currency rather than an asset.
More important than looking at the whitepaper is to look what people are doing with it,.

Bitcoin is an investment asset AND a currency. Just like USD is. Lots of people buy USD as a hedge as well.

Bitcoin also serves as a currency .Just take  a look at the services board. So many people working for bitcoin. Basically anything that can be done online you can get paid with bitcoin.
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September 01, 2020, 09:26:18 PM
#3
The first step to bitcoin adoption is to accept that it's a currency. After all, it's competing against fiat money, which is also a currency (in terms of the goal to decentralize the financial system). Imagine inventing the time machine, but after introducing it to the public, it was accepted and used as a teleportation machine instead. That time machine will never serve its purpose. 
hero member
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September 01, 2020, 06:30:08 PM
#2
This is a mistake.

For bitcoin is not a currency; it is not money—it is a speculative hedge, an investment, a form of trading, and, quite possibly, the great white whale of finance.


It's very unfortunate that a lot of people do not see and think Bitcoin is a currency but an investment asset.  If you take a look at the whitepaper of Bitcoin, Satoshi developed Bitcoin to be a digital currency rather than a digital investment asset. Personally, I will be very glad if people can see Bitcoin as a currency rather than an asset.
newbie
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September 01, 2020, 06:07:34 PM
#1
This is a mistake.

For bitcoin is not a currency; it is not money—it is a speculative hedge, an investment, a form of trading, and, quite possibly, the great white whale of finance.

Possibly—but only possibly.

The temptation to talk about bitcoin as the sole product of its inventor’s brilliance has grown during the crypto bubble because, as we know from the history of equity markets and from history as a whole, perception is all. And with a product as new as bitcoin, the halo effect is just enormous.

People talk about bitcoin because they can. After all, even if it has a host of technical limitations and flaws, it is not as boring as the existing consumer-facing products from the payment sector. And bitcoin is not as easy to move money as, say, the ability to convert cash to gold or fiat currency (the dollar, yen, pound, euro). But it’s a hedge, or an investment, or a speculative play, or a currency trading instrument, and those are all ways of getting one to your place of business, or to the point of travel, or to a lender. And, hence, it’s all there in one place, in crypto.

And, especially as I indicated here, it is far easier to talk about bitcoin than to talk about gold, and perhaps even to get people to look at fiat currencies. In that sense, bitcoin is both a new form of money and a solution to the demand for money among an otherwise invisible set of people.

Although bitcoin is a speculative play, I also think its rise tells us something very much larger about how our financial systems work—even if we haven’t come to terms with those larger forces.

Bitcoin is hardly the first effort to create some sort of secure virtual currency that was supposed to replace the US dollar, or a basket of other currencies, or whatever. But here is my problem: I don’t understand how money is supposed to be created. The same people who worry about the lack of transparency in many virtual currencies are of the same people who do not fully understand how accounting works, yet they throw around nearly impossible-to-review theories as if they were all knowable as gospel.

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