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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing. Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

The question is, are you really willing to put your bitcoin in something that you didn't own just to target an APR by staking it?

Let alone hold do the thing. The return and potential are much even higher. If ever there's a platform for staking BTC, I don't think it will offer a good return yearly. Let your other coins do the staking and just hold your bitcoin while trying to increase the quantity of it slowly.

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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing. Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

If you want to stake it, it should be into a specific platform. But the twist, is that you're not holding the keys of it. That's why there's no staking in bitcoin.
And the actual is that you're lending your bitcoin to that platform, most likely it is an exchange and they'll give you a return for doing that. Not that much and not worth of the risk.

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It's a very big misconception to think that staking or yield farming or whatever other altcoin investment instruments are better than buy and hodl of Bitcoin, because they are doing something over the time. The only thing that matters is performance measured in US dollars, and Bitcoin easily beats any altcoin investment over the course of 2-3 years, because while alts can have their moments of high returns, they will generally stagnate and slowly fall, so unless you are a genius short-term trader, you will be losing money by trying to play the long game with them.

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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing.

If you are primarily interested in the long return, then hodling bitcoin is your best bet and would potentially bring you more profit than staking assets which are built on the PoS model. Not to shot on proof of stake, but one of the main reasons bitcoin actually increases in value is due to the controlled and reducing supply and how no one holds more stake on the network.

Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

There are third party services that you can technically stake your bitcoins with, but as a common rule; Not your keys,Not your coins.

While I get your point of view, there are times like this that I regret not being active in trading. For instance, I could have sold my BTC at ATH, a few weeks ago, and now I could have obtained a significant amount of BTC, by purchasing, using the exact same amount of money. It's called short-trading, while at the same time, I would continue holding.

On the other hand, there are quite a few things that can go wrong, such as an unexpected price change and so on, however, now I'd definitely have more Bitcoin.

How much Bitcoin do you have? Oh ya, same as me. Not enough haha Wink

. While true you can increase your stack through a short trade, I wouldn't risk more than 10-20% my total position on this type of play. All it takes is one wrong market move and you have a lifetime of COPE and/or buying back higher.

Too little to be enough, honestly. However, it has all been acquired from scratch, without putting down any money. It was mostly through signature campaigns and some kind of microtasks I had completed, thus, my only investment is my work/time. I'm not holding a large amount of Bitcoin, it's roughly $1.500, the opportunity and possibilities of short-trade are endless, I honestly regret being away from the trading scene.

The reason I'm away for a long time now is due to the feeling of it being a burden, it drives me anxious and stresses me out, that's why I've opted for holding, without bothering too much about the market condition.

the same thing with you I also feel it, and some tokens and bitcoins resulting from being a bounty I have traded in the past to increase the amount of my bitcoin assets but the current decline makes me hold it maybe a long time because my bitcoin is only a small amount and hope to be rich with that amount

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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing.

If you are primarily interested in the long return, then hodling bitcoin is your best bet and would potentially bring you more profit than staking assets which are built on the PoS model. Not to shot on proof of stake, but one of the main reasons bitcoin actually increases in value is due to the controlled and reducing supply and how no one holds more stake on the network.

Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

There are third party services that you can technically stake your bitcoins with, but as a common rule; Not your keys,Not your coins.

While I get your point of view, there are times like this that I regret not being active in trading. For instance, I could have sold my BTC at ATH, a few weeks ago, and now I could have obtained a significant amount of BTC, by purchasing, using the exact same amount of money. It's called short-trading, while at the same time, I would continue holding.

On the other hand, there are quite a few things that can go wrong, such as an unexpected price change and so on, however, now I'd definitely have more Bitcoin.

How much Bitcoin do you have? Oh ya, same as me. Not enough haha Wink

. While true you can increase your stack through a short trade, I wouldn't risk more than 10-20% my total position on this type of play. All it takes is one wrong market move and you have a lifetime of COPE and/or buying back higher.

Too little to be enough, honestly. However, it has all been acquired from scratch, without putting down any money. It was mostly through signature campaigns and some kind of microtasks I had completed, thus, my only investment is my work/time. I'm not holding a large amount of Bitcoin, it's roughly $1.500, the opportunity and possibilities of short-trade are endless, I honestly regret being away from the trading scene.

The reason I'm away for a long time now is due to the feeling of it being a burden, it drives me anxious and stresses me out, that's why I've opted for holding, without bothering too much about the market condition.

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There is nothing better than hodling Bitcoin for long-term and don't ever make mistake of liquidating bitcoin holdings into altcoins for staking, I would suggest you to hodl it for atleast two years (assuming you are in for long term and wouldn't be bothered or panicked by ups and downs), then compare the APY earned through staking and profit warned in Bitcoin you will not be disappointed for hodling Bitcoin.

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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing.

If you are primarily interested in the long return, then hodling bitcoin is your best bet and would potentially bring you more profit than staking assets which are built on the PoS model. Not to shot on proof of stake, but one of the main reasons bitcoin actually increases in value is due to the controlled and reducing supply and how no one holds more stake on the network.

Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

There are third party services that you can technically stake your bitcoins with, but as a common rule; Not your keys,Not your coins.

While I get your point of view, there are times like this that I regret not being active in trading. For instance, I could have sold my BTC at ATH, a few weeks ago, and now I could have obtained a significant amount of BTC, by purchasing, using the exact same amount of money. It's called short-trading, while at the same time, I would continue holding.

On the other hand, there are quite a few things that can go wrong, such as an unexpected price change and so on, however, now I'd definitely have more Bitcoin.

How much Bitcoin do you have? Oh ya, same as me. Not enough haha Wink

. While true you can increase your stack through a short trade, I wouldn't risk more than 10-20% my total position on this type of play. All it takes is one wrong market move and you have a lifetime of COPE and/or buying back higher.

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if you day trade the risk becomes much greater, if you use the strategy of always buying in each fall and selling in each large rise the risk also becomes much greater and in these two cases you will be forced to know how to do technical analysis, then your best option at the moment is to do hodl

Quote from: izsara on December 05, 2021, 02:47:10 PM

I don't know what people do who are always selling and buying bitcoins with relatively short terms

each person uses their own strategy

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I don't know what people do who are always selling and buying bitcoins with relatively short terms but until now I still believe that by holding bitcoins, we can at least be in something that will be good and this is the best decision According to me.
holding it for a longer period of time the better in my opinion because when they are traded in a short time, I actually feel like I'm just wasting time because the profits won't be too big, my current system is about bitcoin, namely adoption (especially when correction) hold and leave a few years, take profits.

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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return.

What kind of cryptos? Proof-of-stake based ones?

Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing.

Holding bitcoins gave the greatest capital appreciation this decade. Now that's definitely not nothing. Just knowing that you keep a so undervalued asset (with 180% annual yield on average) for so long provides the best risk:reward ratio.

Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

You can either hand out your bitcoins to third parties or run a lightning node with much capacity.

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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing.

If you are primarily interested in the long return, then hodling bitcoin is your best bet and would potentially bring you more profit than staking assets which are built on the PoS model. Not to shot on proof of stake, but one of the main reasons bitcoin actually increases in value is due to the controlled and reducing supply and how no one holds more stake on the network.

Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

There are third party services that you can technically stake your bitcoins with, but as a common rule; Not your keys,Not your coins.

While I get your point of view, there are times like this that I regret not being active in trading. For instance, I could have sold my BTC at ATH, a few weeks ago, and now I could have obtained a significant amount of BTC, by purchasing, using the exact same amount of money. It's called short-trading, while at the same time, I would continue holding.

On the other hand, there are quite a few things that can go wrong, such as an unexpected price change and so on, however, now I'd definitely have more Bitcoin.

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The difference between Bitcoin relative to the other cryptos is yet more apparent from the context of long-term value extraction by way of a yield. Unlike, alts where DeFi plays a major role in the utility of tokens for financial benefits, staking and what not...

Having said that, the long term holding of Bitcoin should in itself be a rather nice reward. However, while there are no staking per se there are place where you can earn passively on your Bitcoin holdings. Several exchanges provide this ie. Binance as well as institutions that deal with digital assets i.e. Nexo
So there are options it is a matter of choosing your risk level

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Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing.

If you are primarily interested in the long return, then hodling bitcoin is your best bet and would potentially bring you more profit than staking assets which are built on the PoS model. Not to shot on proof of stake, but one of the main reasons bitcoin actually increases in value is due to the controlled and reducing supply and how no one holds more stake on the network.

Quote from: 95Bolu on December 05, 2021, 01:17:05 PM

Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

There are third party services that you can technically stake your bitcoins with, but as a common rule; Not your keys,Not your coins.

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I own different crypto and mostly I stake with them because I am interested in the long return. With bitcoin I am actually doing nothing. Can you suggest any strategies to make even a little APR? I know that I can't stake with bitcoin.

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