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legendary
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September 19, 2016, 02:24:29 AM
#39
I think the whole USA with all it's states have a bit of a multiple personality disorder. You will travel from one state to the next, and the direct opposite of what is legal in the one state, will not be legal in the next. I think people from other countries will be confused, when they visit America. Most states seem to define Bitcoin as a commodity, and not a currency at the moment. ^hmmmm^
hero member
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September 19, 2016, 02:04:24 AM
#38
as i know bitcoin is money in digital world , but only things it is not directly dependent economy of the country like fiat money, but in future i will believe bitcoin has more value it will be accepted as main currency Smiley 
I am agree. Government can't control bitcoin and exactly cause of that they are trying to make their best to destroy bitcoin as the currency. Many well known professional economists were saying that bitcoin is not currency and predicted price for 1btc as 10$ in 2015. Was it like that? No. Bitcoin is developing and more and more places accept it as payment. I think just few time left to government give up and admit bitcoin as the currency.
legendary
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September 19, 2016, 01:57:49 AM
#37
For us here in bitcointalk, bitcoin is money and we sure can buy stuff through it.
for the offline people who don't even know anything about bitcoin, it could even look like just a trash to them. For someone who would rather do thing in the real world, bitcoin is nothing even if its worth 1K.
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September 19, 2016, 01:48:55 AM
#36
Well for me everything that can be exchange or used to buy something is money. I believe that Bitcoin is money because what i can do with money is i can do also in Bitcoin. I can transfer Bitcoin to someone, i can buy goods with Bitcoin, I can pay my bills with Bitcoin, I can gamble with Bitcoin. The difference in the two only is the Bitcoin is not yet well known by every citizen of every country so the way to use it is not wide like using money.
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September 19, 2016, 01:42:37 AM
#35
I would consider bitcoin more as a store of value, if it isn't money. As long as it possesses value, I would still use bitcoin and hold some for investment. People are still not that aware of what bitcoin can offer, hence, the lack of knowledge of how to use it and what it really is.

I think the closest mode that it can be compared to right now is a commodity, like corn or pork bellies.  It is a traded entity that has a value that varies over time.  Not a stock, that is a portion of another whole, but a single unit commodity.
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September 19, 2016, 01:40:47 AM
#34
according to merriam webster's dictionary, money is
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something (such as coins or bills) used as a way to pay for goods and services and to pay people for their work

let's see, we can buy stuff by bitcoin, we can offer services paid by bitcoin, and we can do some jobs paid by bitcoin. so according to the dictionary, bitcoin is money.
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September 19, 2016, 01:39:31 AM
#33
I would consider bitcoin more as a store of value, if it isn't money. As long as it possesses value, I would still use bitcoin and hold some for investment. People are still not that aware of what bitcoin can offer, hence, the lack of knowledge of how to use it and what it really is.
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September 19, 2016, 01:35:30 AM
#32
The stupid thing is that it is Florida that just judged the Cryptsy case and determined that people has been stolen from and were due compensation.  I thought it was funny because a Florida senator two years back stated that Florida would never exchange FIAT to Crypto and would never use Crypto.  Now, after Cryptsy, Florida has to either pay those people back in BTC(using Crypto) or in FIAT(trading BTC for Crypto) to pay out the case.
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September 19, 2016, 01:10:23 AM
#31
I don't think bitcoin is money, but it is more to gold on Internet and bitcoin be made by mining and we know amount all of them. But money be made by printer and we don't know amount all of them every be printed.
member
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September 19, 2016, 01:04:53 AM
#30
Money in its current sense is an asset backed by Gold and it's local currency. Bitcoin has neither of these traits. Therefore yes, bitcoin isn't money in a legal sense. It is an asset.

But colloquially, bitcoin is money.
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Actually, in most "developed" countries, ie. the ones that have a central bank, their fiat money isn't backed by gold, silver, or anything tangible either. It is backed by debt and the promise of the citizens' labor. In that regard, the less governments consider bitcoin as money, the better off anyone who uses bitcoin is.

Also, you're right about his ads. Even using NoScript, AdBlock Plus and Ghostery. I saw more ads than I expected, Not someplace I'd want to stay long.
legendary
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September 19, 2016, 12:10:30 AM
#29
Well I personally don't care what a Florida judge decides because I don't live in the states and any judiciary decisions there won't affect me.

Maybe this is a good thing, maybe it is a bad thing, but it will likely delay the taxation of bitcoin in the states for a little while yet.
member
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September 19, 2016, 12:03:55 AM
#28
in my country also stated that the judge saying the same thing as in florida. Bitcoin currency was not genuine, but the circulation of bitcoin in my country every day faster spread. so one day my country will probably make currency bitcoin as a second currency after the rupiah in my country Smiley
legendary
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July 26, 2016, 08:54:51 AM
#27
ok people

"money" is the term for that central bank stuff with a £$ sign..

"currency" can be anything. even your wife uses sex as her currency to get something nice for valentines day. prisoners use cigarettes as currency.. currency can be anything and everything including money, assets and items of value. currency is an umbrella term

money is not an umbrella term. money is just money.

bitcoin is not money, but is a currency.

bitcoin is infact an asset currency, where asset means something someone owns that has value.. such as a product or goods. so bitcoin is in laymens terms a "digital goods" or a digital asset.
full member
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July 26, 2016, 08:48:39 AM
#26
Bitcoin has all the features that a money should have.We can buy almost anythings with bitcoin now it also has a price in USD or any other currency.
We can also exchange it into fiat and then it becomes normal money of the same value.So why bitcoin is not a money,bitcoin is also a type of money i would say and it is a highly valuable money i would say.
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July 26, 2016, 08:44:58 AM
#25

money is a thing we use to buy another things which we all in agreement to use this thing as an exchange tool, and of course it is worth, so if people agree to exchange stuff with bitcoin and because it has something that makes it worth, then we can call it money. imo
legendary
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July 26, 2016, 08:42:38 AM
#24
I didn't visit your site because I know what you're up to but what a Florida judge says on btc matters not. I doubt it will even set precendent in Florida once the feds push their agenda.

Yeah nobody really gives a damn what some random Judge from Florida thinks, if we go to the moon one day he'll be wishing he had bought some bitcoin when he first heard about it.
hero member
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July 26, 2016, 08:42:26 AM
#23
If that is indeed true, then the bitcoin is an investment that can generate a very large money in the future, such as gold. So it doesn't matter if the news was true, and I am very happy to hear the news, because I get more indictable bitcoin as extraordinary things
hero member
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July 26, 2016, 08:38:31 AM
#22
Bitcoin is money in fact, because easily we can make deals and trades with this currency and also we can exchange it into fiat without any issues, so i don't see real difference between Bitcoin and other currencies.
legendary
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July 26, 2016, 08:20:04 AM
#21
yes bitcoin can not be said as money but it has a value and we can exchange it with any country's currency as this asset is very valuable even from gold because we can transfer bitcoins without being afraid of theivs or other problems
hero member
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July 26, 2016, 08:17:38 AM
#20
I didn't visit your site because I know what you're up to but what a Florida judge says on btc matters not. I doubt it will even set precendent in Florida once the feds push their agenda.
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