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Crypto Somnium
September 13, 2013, 07:00:51 AM
#36
correct if wrong but they are always sent to the destination address, when miners get around to processing it if it lacks the fees it might take a few days.
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September 13, 2013, 06:59:12 AM
#35
No reason to become ugly about bitcoin.

But for real we have two problems:

- you have to pay fees. MultuBit / electrum give you no option not to pay fees. The dream of bitcoin as feeless money-transmitter is dead
- even if you pay fees the transaction is annoyingly slow. I had to wait one or two hour, and I payed fees.

This is really bad for bitcoin

The fee right now is 0.0005 BTC. That's 6 cents USD. First off:
-Bitcoin still is the cheapest way to move money internationally or long distance
-There has always been a fee. When did you dream about "feeless" money transfer?

6 cent are 6 cent more than I have to pay when using my bank account.
Lol, have fun sending money to a place outside your country. From USA to Europa for example. I really like BitCoin and if you aren't dumb enough to add enough fees (which costs almost nothing) you will have a great time using it. Also, taking a day to confirm isn't bad at all. If I send money to another bank in my own country it can take up to 1 day before it's processed. If I want to send it to the country next to me this increases significant (and would cost me a lot more). So I prefer BitCoin above all.

OK, so considering a situation like this: someone sends Bitcoins and doesn't include a transfer fee. What happens to those Bitcoins if the network "decides" not to deliver them to the destination address? Are they returned to the sender?
As far as I know, yes.
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September 13, 2013, 06:57:43 AM
#34
OK, so considering a situation like this: someone sends Bitcoins and doesn't include a transfer fee. What happens to those Bitcoins if the network "decides" not to deliver them to the destination address? Are they returned to the sender?

Good question. Anybody knows an answer?
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September 13, 2013, 06:54:41 AM
#33
OK, so considering a situation like this: someone sends Bitcoins and doesn't include a transfer fee. What happens to those Bitcoins if the network "decides" not to deliver them to the destination address? Are they returned to the sender?
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September 13, 2013, 06:51:37 AM
#32
No reason to become ugly about bitcoin.

But for real we have two problems:

- you have to pay fees. MultuBit / electrum give you no option not to pay fees. The dream of bitcoin as feeless money-transmitter is dead
- even if you pay fees the transaction is annoyingly slow. I had to wait one or two hour, and I payed fees.

This is really bad for bitcoin

The fee right now is 0.0005 BTC. That's 6 cents USD. First off:
-Bitcoin still is the cheapest way to move money internationally or long distance
-There has always been a fee. When did you dream about "feeless" money transfer?

6 cent are 6 cent more than I have to pay when using my bank account.
legendary
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September 13, 2013, 06:42:16 AM
#31
No reason to become ugly about bitcoin.

But for real we have two problems:

- you have to pay fees. MultuBit / electrum give you no option not to pay fees. The dream of bitcoin as feeless money-transmitter is dead
- even if you pay fees the transaction is annoyingly slow. I had to wait one or two hour, and I payed fees.

This is really bad for bitcoin

No reason? ae u kidding me?

i just lost ~ 370 USD
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September 13, 2013, 06:41:48 AM
#30
No reason to become ugly about bitcoin.

But for real we have two problems:

- you have to pay fees. MultuBit / electrum give you no option not to pay fees. The dream of bitcoin as feeless money-transmitter is dead
- even if you pay fees the transaction is annoyingly slow. I had to wait one or two hour, and I payed fees.

This is really bad for bitcoin

The fee right now is 0.0005 BTC. That's 6 cents USD. First off:
-Bitcoin still is the cheapest way to move money internationally or long distance
-There has always been a fee. When did you dream about "feeless" money transfer?
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September 13, 2013, 06:31:03 AM
#29
No reason to become ugly about bitcoin.

But for real we have two problems:

- you have to pay fees. MultuBit / electrum give you no option not to pay fees. The dream of bitcoin as feeless money-transmitter is dead
- even if you pay fees the transaction is annoyingly slow. I had to wait one or two hour, and I payed fees.

This is really bad for bitcoin
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September 13, 2013, 06:13:10 AM
#28
I hate Bitcoin from this moment. Fuck Bitcoin Blockchain.

why are you going to be more rude what happen to you from Bitcoin and Blockchain

It dissapeard. Bitcoin network stole my 3 BTCs Wink
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtf-transaction-got-lost-at-blockchain-293554

sorry for you cannot say anything right now you check may have something wrong or contact them just cany say this right now
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September 13, 2013, 06:09:42 AM
#27
I hate Bitcoin from this moment. Fuck Bitcoin Blockchain.

why are you going to be more rude what happen to you from Bitcoin and Blockchain

It dissapeard. Bitcoin network stole my 3 BTCs Wink
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtf-transaction-got-lost-at-blockchain-293554
sr. member
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September 13, 2013, 06:08:03 AM
#26
I hate Bitcoin from this moment. Fuck Bitcoin Blockchain.

why are you going to be more rude what happen to you from Bitcoin and Blockchain
legendary
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September 13, 2013, 05:58:32 AM
#25
I hate Bitcoin from this moment. Fuck Bitcoin Blockchain.
legendary
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September 13, 2013, 05:56:33 AM
#24
Sounds like your problem is with the casino then.

Go gamble give money in to "real" casinos and leave bitcoin alone.

Sincerly (hoping you are so broke you cannot gamble for a cent ever, anymore),
Thanks.

good tip for this guy which just want some support for LTC

My payment didn't come yet. Still 0 confirmations. I'm very angry. But YES, I'm just doing advertisement for Litecoin here... Stupid iditots. Do you think I want to promote Litecoin? Yes. You're right, but I'm doing this from this moment. Because Bitcoin is the most slowly shit I ever seen. So yes, Litecoin is 1000000 times better.

Fuck off
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September 13, 2013, 05:18:48 AM
#23
Sounds like your problem is with the casino then.

Go gamble give money in to "real" casinos and leave bitcoin alone.

Sincerly (hoping you are so broke you cannot gamble for a cent ever, anymore),
Thanks.

good tip for this guy which just want some support for LTC
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Bitcoin
September 12, 2013, 07:19:23 PM
#22
ya ya cry me a river
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September 12, 2013, 05:29:13 PM
#21
Sounds like your problem is with the casino then.

Go gamble give money in to "real" casinos and leave bitcoin alone.

Sincerly (hoping you are so broke you cannot gamble for a cent ever, anymore),
Thanks.
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September 12, 2013, 04:49:37 PM
#20
Failed attempt to promote litecoin. Nothing to see, please move along.
legendary
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September 12, 2013, 04:48:28 PM
#19
I have heard you can add a fee after the fact by using the coin as an input in a fee-paying transaction. This would likely require manual coin manipulation though.

That "child pays for parent" patch was not ever released in the client and I'm not aware of any miners using it.
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September 12, 2013, 04:30:50 PM
#18
Pretty lame if you ask me - especially when bitcoin touts itself as being "free of transaction fees".
Nobody says that. In the widespread info videos about Bitcoin, it explicitly says "the fees are much lower" (comparing to traditional wire transfers or other online payment systems). And to put that in the right perspective: the default Bitcoin transaction fee (I think that's 0.0005 BTC or 0.0001 BTC nowadays, but you can adjust that as you see fit) is in fact almost free.

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I'm definitely holding onto my litecoins.
Good luck, as Litecoin uses the exact same approach. Only difference between LTC and BTC is LTC uses a higher block mining frequency (more blocks are mined per hour). Which ain't gonna help sh*t if your transaction doesn't get relayed because you didn't include a fee.
legendary
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September 12, 2013, 04:24:12 PM
#17
Litecoin is 1000 times faster that fuckin bitcoin.

Transaction alredy took 26 hours and still "0 confirmations".
You either didn't pay a transaction fee, or you trusted some crappy casino and they decided not to pay a transaction fee. Or they decided not to transfer your money at all, and just screw you over instead.

Either way, it's your and/or their fault. Not Bitcoin's.
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