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Topic: Bitcoin Lottery: minimum just 0.01 btc! Next draw: July 1 Jackpot 1.52 btc - page 3. (Read 10978 times)

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ok i finally managed to transfer Cheesy am i still on of the first 6 ?
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Just 14 hours to go! You can still get your 0.02 btc!
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BitLotto - best odds + best payouts + cheat-proof
Do you know whether the transaction hashes are totally random/uncontrollable? If so, the hashes can be added up and used for the random generator as quite easy alternative.
They are fairly random. BUT the RANDOM number for the winner has to come after all the tickets, for IF the user knows what transaction hash will win they could re-send over and over until they get a hash that wins. For mine, I wait till the tickets are in then set up finding who won.
Do you think it is secure now?

Edit: okay it is still possible for me to try and try till I win... so that's the reason to add the hash of block 1 and 2 after 0:00... =) I maybe implement that next week.
Ya, I think your getting why I use block data as well. Your hash of random data is secure against others cheating but you still could. Adding block data makes it so you can't as well.
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Do you know whether the transaction hashes are totally random/uncontrollable? If so, the hashes can be added up and used for the random generator as quite easy alternative.
They are fairly random. BUT the RANDOM number for the winner has to come after all the tickets, for IF the user knows what transaction hash will win they could re-send over and over until they get a hash that wins. For mine, I wait till the tickets are in then set up finding who won.
Do you think it is secure now?

Edit: okay it is still possible for me to try and try till I win... so that's the reason to add the hash of block 1 and 2 after 0:00... =) I maybe implement that next week.
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Okay, I implemented a somewhat simple random generator. It is quite secure for now, but I will likely improve it in the future. The SHA 256 hash for the random string is:
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The algorithm changed by the way. The block size is now the average deposit.
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Do you know whether the transaction hashes are totally random/uncontrollable? If so, the hashes can be added up and used for the random generator as quite easy alternative.
They are fairly random. BUT the RANDOM number for the winner has to come after all the tickets, for IF the user knows what transaction hash will win they could re-send over and over until they get a hash that wins. For mine, I wait till the tickets are in then set up finding who won.
Yes I thought about that later. So basically secure hash the (big) random value and distribute the hash?
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BitLotto - best odds + best payouts + cheat-proof
Do you know whether the transaction hashes are totally random/uncontrollable? If so, the hashes can be added up and used for the random generator as quite easy alternative.
They are fairly random. BUT the RANDOM number for the winner has to come after all the tickets, for IF the user knows what transaction hash will win they could re-send over and over until they get a hash that wins. For mine, I wait till the tickets are in then set up finding who won.
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I would like to join aswell, but I am new to bitcoin and only got 0.02 bc and it wont let me send 0.01
Always says something about transaction fee because the amount is too large!? Huh
The current client asks 0.01 btc if you send small amounts. That amount is far larger in the development code.
Strange that it won't let you send 0.01 if you have 0.02... Maybe try to get some other cents (mining, trading, etc)?
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I would like to join aswell, but I am new to bitcoin and only got 0.02 bc and it wont let me send 0.01
Always says something about transaction fee because the amount is too large!? Huh
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Do you know whether the transaction hashes are totally random/uncontrollable? If so, the hashes can be added up and used for the random generator as quite easy alternative.
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Okay, great point! If the jackpot contains more than a few bitcoins I will surely look at what I can do. Your method is very nice by the way!
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Yes, but I apply the same method as you do: people can see what comes in and out. So people can see it is paid to one / a few that participated=).
Yes, you are right in that you show the winnings move around BUT unlike yours *I have NO control* over picking the winner. I can not fake the random numbers. That was what I was getting at. Yes, you show that you are paying. BUT, the results themselves can not be verified in yours. The key is getting some type of list of entrants, publish it, THEN have the winners come from random numbers that you CAN NOT manipulate but still everyone can get those random numbers. If you want help coming up with something I'm willing to help...
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I think I get what your doing... I think. I'm pretty tired and I don't know python so I'll have to look later.
I get that your trying to be open but even though people can see the code there is no way really for the users to know you are actually running it. Someone could just -say- they are going to run that code. Enter a few of their own entries. Tell the users that they ran the code but instead just pay themselves and make up results that fit. (I'm not saying you are doing this but for people to bet lot's of money they need CERTAINTY you can't cheat. I've seen a few lottery scams but I am willing to help you make it so that you can't cheat...) Anyways, good luck!
Yes, but I apply the same method as you do: people can see what comes in and out. So people can see it is paid to one / a few that participated=).
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I think I get what your doing... I think. I'm pretty tired and I don't know python so I'll have to look later.
I get that your trying to be open but even though people can see the code there is no way really for the users to know you are actually running it. Someone could just -say- they are going to run that code. Enter a few of their own entries. Tell the users that they ran the code but instead just pay themselves and make up results that fit. (I'm not saying you are doing this but for people to bet lot's of money they need CERTAINTY you can't cheat. I've seen a few lottery scams but I am willing to help you make it so that you can't cheat...) Anyways, good luck!

Eh I guess it's still a possibility but he did indeed send me my .02 BTC for being one of the first 6....
I know. I'm not saying he is a scammer but he could change a few things to eliminate a very easy way to fake results.
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I think I get what your doing... I think. I'm pretty tired and I don't know python so I'll have to look later.
I get that your trying to be open but even though people can see the code there is no way really for the users to know you are actually running it. Someone could just -say- they are going to run that code. Enter a few of their own entries. Tell the users that they ran the code but instead just pay themselves and make up results that fit. (I'm not saying you are doing this but for people to bet lot's of money they need CERTAINTY you can't cheat. I've seen a few lottery scams but I am willing to help you make it so that you can't cheat...) Anyways, good luck!

Eh I guess it's still a possibility but he did indeed send me my .02 BTC for being one of the first 6....
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
BitLotto - best odds + best payouts + cheat-proof
I think I get what your doing... I think. I'm pretty tired and I don't know python so I'll have to look later.
I get that your trying to be open but even though people can see the code there is no way really for the users to know you are actually running it. Someone could just -say- they are going to run that code. Enter a few of their own entries. Tell the users that they ran the code but instead just pay themselves and make up results that fit. (I'm not saying you are doing this but for people to bet lot's of money they need CERTAINTY you can't cheat. I've seen a few lottery scams but I am willing to help you make it so that you can't cheat...) Anyways, good luck!
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Jackpot: 0.07, two days to go!
If the total jackpot is not more than a bitcoin I am inclined to reduce the size of the blocks (to not give everyone his deposit back, but get one or a few winners). I am thinking about what size would be the best? The average deposit?
Input welcome!
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