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Topic: Bitcoin Mention on Alex Jones Today & Mention of Bitcoin Forum URL - page 2. (Read 6680 times)

legendary
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I advocate the Zeitgeist Movement & Venus Project.
@cypherdoc, you just wrote bitcoin PR manual.

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1.  don't talk about mining.  its confusing.
2.  don't talk about the blockchain.  its even more confusing.
3.  say that bitcoin is "digital gold".  that'll definitely make them sit up.
4.  say that only a fixed number will be issued and then NO MORE.
5.  say that since its digital it can be instantaneously transported across borders w/o detection.  they'll immediately realize the implications of this.
6.  don't say anything about "cryptocurrency" or "cryptography".  this makes it sound like bitcoin is trying to hide something along the likes of Silk Road and other illegal activities.
7.  say that bitcoins are secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms" that prevent counterfeiting.  sounds impressive.
8.  try to avoid saying anything about Satoshi since an unknown character brings to mind a shady type character or hidden agenda.
9.  do explain that the decentralized or "spread out" nature of bitcoin makes it indestructable to gov't or Fed intervention.    they'll like that.
10.  when they ask what its denominated in say that bitcoin is a currency unto itself and "floats" in value against other fiat currencies like the USD but bitcoin is in fact NOT a fiat currency.  you might mention that you think that bitcoin will become the gold std against which all other currencies will be measured.
11. i wouldn't recommend newbies go to forum.bitcoin.org especially with all the trolls we've been getting there recently.  the best place for them to go to learn about bitcoin is bitcoin.org which explains all the facts and has references.

I'll restate your points and will add some

Don't mention:
- mining
- blockchain
- crypto (unless it goes into technical details and you are asked how it is implemented)
- satoshi
- forum
- specific exchanges and businesses (unless you've been paid for that, maybe)

Do say:
- "digital gold"
- there never will be more than 21 million of bitcoin in existance
- bitcoin is secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms"
- "no government can repeal laws of mathematics"
- decentralized with no single entity to be shut-down or pressured, just like bittorrent
- quick and low cost payments over internet,
- can be easily and covertly transported over national borders
- negligible transaction fees
- "Disruptive disintermediation" (if audience seems to have above average IQ)
- pseudonymous and potentially anonymous transactions
- accounts cannot be "frozen"
- can make donations to wikileaks etc
- easier to store and transport than gold
- it is just like gold which you can teleport to anyone on the planet
- bitcon.org
- valued below 1$ in Spring 2011, valued at dollars now.
- traded on a number of independent exchanges, which set up valuation against fiat currencies.
- potential low cost replacement of interbank settlement networks such as SWIFT

feel free to add to these lists

@all, do not freaking even think to speak to media before reading this.  Wink





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newbie
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- decentralized with no single entity to be shut-down or pressured, just like bittorrent

I don't know if bit-torrent should be mentioned here. After all, it conjures up images of pirates and angry corps sending lawyers to haunt people.

legendary
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im starting to think that bitcoin is a little to advanced for the age we live in. in the US alone, a good 30% of the population at least can be classified as a Hoosier. in a way i feel like Tesla, except retarded. Undecided

not at all.  do you think those same Hoosiers give a darn about how Bitcoin functions in the end?  No way.  They'll just want to "bump" their phones and see the payment go thru and they'll be happy.

do you think the Kenyans know or care about how M Pesa works?  No way.  They're just happy that their wives got the money on the other side of the country to feed their kids and that they didn't have to ride a donkey to give it to them.

this is why when we explain Bitcoin's concepts to less informed people just talk about the basics and forget about all the nuances and exceptions.  this is why Amir Taaki has such a hard time.  for every positive he mentions about Bitcoin he can't help but throw in a negative that he's aware of as a developer.  this is b/c he's so immersed in it he can't help but talk about them.  and i don't blame him; after all its his responsibility to find the problems and get them fixed so thats all he can think about.  he's lost in the trees so to speak and can't step back and view the forest let alone articulate about it.
sr. member
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im starting to think that bitcoin is a little to advanced for the age we live in. in the US alone, a good 30% of the population at least can be classified as a Hoosier. in a way i feel like Tesla, except retarded. Undecided
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
see my modifications:

Don't mention:
- mining
- blockchain
- crypto (unless it goes into technical details and you are asked how it is implemented)
- satoshi
- forum
- specific exchanges and businesses (unless you've been paid for that, maybe)

Do say:
- "digital gold"
- there never will be more than 21 million of bitcoin in existance
- bitcoin is secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms"
- "no government can repeal laws of mathematics"
- decentralized with no single entity to be shut-down or pressured, just like bittorrent
- quick and low cost payments over internet,
- can be easily and covertly transported over national borders
- negligible transaction fees
- "Disruptive disintermediation" (if audience seems to have above average IQ)
- pseudonymous (no one knows this word w/o looking it up in dictionary) and potentially anonymous transactions
- accounts cannot be "frozen"
- can make donations to wikileaks etc many ppl view Wikileaks unfavorably
- easier to store and transport than gold
- its is just not like gold which and you can teleport to anyone on the planet
- bitcoin.org
- valued below 1$ in Spring 2011, valued at dollars now.
- traded on a number of independent exchanges WORLDWIDE, which set up valuation against fiat currencies.

Scenarios:
1. if cornered into talking about mining or blockchain, just say "its one huge verification network for financial tx's"
2. if they say "isn't that a huge waste of electricity and computer work?"; just say "not compared to the waste of the banksters and financial system in place today which the blockchain replaces".

3. if they ask "can't the gov't shut it down?" just say "they can't".  never mind the 51% attack since thats a theoretical concept that is highly improbable if not impossible.
4. if cornered into talking about Satoshi just say "i've never met him but i know the head dev is from Princeton (i know, i know but the MSM loves this sh*t whether we do or not) and the rest of them are wicked smart." THIS WILL MOST LIKELY BE MY MOST UNPOPULAR RECOMMENDATION.


feel free to add to these lists

@all, do not freaking even think to speak to media before reading this.  Wink
sr. member
Activity: 350
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you should probably script the whole thing out before hand, have a bunch of responses to a bunch of possible questions, watch as many of his shows before the interview to find out how he thinks, BE HIS HUSBAND before you call again.

if this were to work out, and you genuinely convince him to accept BTC on his website, you will undoubtedly raise the value of it.
hero member
Activity: 563
Merit: 501
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Don't mention:
- mining
- blockchain
- crypto (unless it goes into technical details and you are asked how it is implemented)
- satoshi
- forum

Do say:
- "digital gold"
- there never will be more than 21 million of bitcoin in existance
- bitcoin is secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms"
- "no government can repeal laws of mathematics"
- decentralized with no single entity to be shut-down or pressured, just like bittorrent
- instant payment over internet,
- can be easily and covertly transported over national borders
- negligible transaction fees
- "Disruptive disintermediation" (if audience seems to have above average IQ)
- pseudonymous and potentially anonymous transactions
- accounts cannot be "frozen"
- can make donations to wikileaks etc
- easier to store and transport than gold
- it is just like gold which you can teleport to anyone on the planet
- bitcon.org
- valued below 1$ in Spring 2011, valued at dollars now.

Good list.  I tried to explain Bitcoin to my family and started dropping all sorts of terminology (i.e., distributed ledger stored in a blockchain) and I completely lost them - and my mother started drooling on herself.
hero member
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Merit: 1001
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@cypherdoc, you just wrote bitcoin PR manual.

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1.  don't talk about mining.  its confusing.
2.  don't talk about the blockchain.  its even more confusing.
3.  say that bitcoin is "digital gold".  that'll definitely make them sit up.
4.  say that only a fixed number will be issued and then NO MORE.
5.  say that since its digital it can be instantaneously transported across borders w/o detection.  they'll immediately realize the implications of this.
6.  don't say anything about "cryptocurrency" or "cryptography".  this makes it sound like bitcoin is trying to hide something along the likes of Silk Road and other illegal activities.
7.  say that bitcoins are secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms" that prevent counterfeiting.  sounds impressive.
8.  try to avoid saying anything about Satoshi since an unknown character brings to mind a shady type character or hidden agenda.
9.  do explain that the decentralized or "spread out" nature of bitcoin makes it indestructable to gov't or Fed intervention.    they'll like that.
10.  when they ask what its denominated in say that bitcoin is a currency unto itself and "floats" in value against other fiat currencies like the USD but bitcoin is in fact NOT a fiat currency.  you might mention that you think that bitcoin will become the gold std against which all other currencies will be measured.
11. i wouldn't recommend newbies go to forum.bitcoin.org especially with all the trolls we've been getting there recently.  the best place for them to go to learn about bitcoin is bitcoin.org which explains all the facts and has references.

I'll restate your points and will add some

Don't mention:
- mining
- blockchain
- crypto (unless it goes into technical details and you are asked how it is implemented)
- satoshi
- forum
- specific exchanges and businesses (unless you've been paid for that, maybe)

Do say:
- "digital gold"
- there never will be more than 21 million of bitcoin in existance
- bitcoin is secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms"
- "no government can repeal laws of mathematics"
- decentralized with no single entity to be shut-down or pressured, just like bittorrent
- quick and low cost payments over internet,
- can be easily and covertly transported over national borders
- negligible transaction fees
- "Disruptive disintermediation" (if audience seems to have above average IQ)
- pseudonymous and potentially anonymous transactions
- accounts cannot be "frozen"
- can make donations to wikileaks etc
- easier to store and transport than gold
- it is just like gold which you can teleport to anyone on the planet
- bitcon.org
- valued below 1$ in Spring 2011, valued at dollars now.
- traded on a number of independent exchanges, which set up valuation against fiat currencies.
- potential low cost replacement of interbank settlement networks such as SWIFT

feel free to add to these lists

@all, do not freaking even think to speak to media before reading this.  Wink



sr. member
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love right back to you, Bro. Thanks Cypherdoc. I'm actually going to make a list of short concept points based on your post, and gather a nice little list together for the next time I call in. I'll start by telling him I have a short list of the best points about it and then have him ask me questions about any one of them. That's very helpful. Together, we'll take this ship back from the pirates....I mean, uhem, Masons.

and of course, when we do, we'll raise the flag of the Bitcoin.

Good job, bitreb!  Would you do us a favor and share your short list of the best points here?  I think we should all have an elevator version of what is bitcoin handy. thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
bitrebel:  congrats on your efforts to spread the word.  you know i'm a fan of yours right?  but i have a few suggestions the next time you appear on Alex's show.

1.  don't talk about mining.  its confusing.
2.  don't talk about the blockchain.  its even more confusing.
3.  say that bitcoin is "digital gold".  that'll definitely make them sit up.
4.  say that only a fixed number will be issued and then NO MORE.
5.  say that since its digital it can be instantaneously transported across borders w/o detection.  they'll immediately realize the implications of this.
6.  don't say anything about "cryptocurrency" or "cryptography".  this makes it sound like bitcoin is trying to hide something along the likes of Silk Road and other illegal activities.
7.  say that bitcoins are secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms" that prevent counterfeiting.  sounds impressive.
8.  try to avoid saying anything about Satoshi since an unknown character brings to mind a shady type character or hidden agenda.
9.  do explain that the decentralized or "spread out" nature of bitcoin makes it indestructable to gov't or Fed intervention.    they'll like that.
10.  when they ask what its denominated in say that bitcoin is a currency unto itself and "floats" in value against other fiat currencies like the USD but bitcoin is in fact NOT a fiat currency.  you might mention that you think that bitcoin will become the gold std against which all other currencies will be measured.
11. i wouldn't recommend newbies go to forum.bitcoin.org especially with all the trolls we've been getting there recently.  the best place for them to go to learn about bitcoin is bitcoin.org which explains all the facts and has references.

love ya man.

love right back to you, Bro. Thanks Cypherdoc. I'm actually going to make a list of short concept points based on your post, and gather a nice little list together for the next time I call in. I'll start by telling him I have a short list of the best points about it and then have him ask me questions about any one of them. That's very helpful. Together, we'll take this ship back from the pirates....I mean, uhem, Masons.

and of course, when we do, we'll raise the flag of the Bitcoin.

thats an excellent strategy.  get what you want out on to the table first and fast before they cut you off.  i know how tough that must be under pressure knowing that they can cut you off at any second. 

study that interview and ask yourself what you could've done better. 

all in all a great effort.
sr. member
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bitrebel:  congrats on your efforts to spread the word.  you know i'm a fan of yours right?  but i have a few suggestions the next time you appear on Alex's show.

1.  don't talk about mining.  its confusing.
2.  don't talk about the blockchain.  its even more confusing.
3.  say that bitcoin is "digital gold".  that'll definitely make them sit up.
4.  say that only a fixed number will be issued and then NO MORE.
5.  say that since its digital it can be instantaneously transported across borders w/o detection.  they'll immediately realize the implications of this.
6.  don't say anything about "cryptocurrency" or "cryptography".  this makes it sound like bitcoin is trying to hide something along the likes of Silk Road and other illegal activities.
7.  say that bitcoins are secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms" that prevent counterfeiting.  sounds impressive.
8.  try to avoid saying anything about Satoshi since an unknown character brings to mind a shady type character or hidden agenda.
9.  do explain that the decentralized or "spread out" nature of bitcoin makes it indestructable to gov't or Fed intervention.    they'll like that.
10.  when they ask what its denominated in say that bitcoin is a currency unto itself and "floats" in value against other fiat currencies like the USD but bitcoin is in fact NOT a fiat currency.  you might mention that you think that bitcoin will become the gold std against which all other currencies will be measured.
11. i wouldn't recommend newbies go to forum.bitcoin.org especially with all the trolls we've been getting there recently.  the best place for them to go to learn about bitcoin is bitcoin.org which explains all the facts and has references.

love ya man.

love right back to you, Bro. Thanks Cypherdoc. I'm actually going to make a list of short concept points based on your post, and gather a nice little list together for the next time I call in. I'll start by telling him I have a short list of the best points about it and then have him ask me questions about any one of them. That's very helpful. Together, we'll take this ship back from the pirates....I mean, uhem, Masons.

and of course, when we do, we'll raise the flag of the Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1002
bitrebel:  congrats on your efforts to spread the word.  you know i'm a fan of yours right?  but i have a few suggestions the next time you appear on Alex's show.

1.  don't talk about mining.  its confusing.
2.  don't talk about the blockchain.  its even more confusing.
3.  say that bitcoin is "digital gold".  that'll definitely make them sit up.
4.  say that only a fixed number will be issued and then NO MORE.
5.  say that since its digital it can be instantaneously transported across borders w/o detection.  they'll immediately realize the implications of this.
6.  don't say anything about "cryptocurrency" or "cryptography".  this makes it sound like bitcoin is trying to hide something along the likes of Silk Road and other illegal activities.
7.  say that bitcoins are secured by "advanced mathematical algorithms" that prevent counterfeiting.  sounds impressive.
8.  try to avoid saying anything about Satoshi since an unknown character brings to mind a shady type character or hidden agenda.
9.  do explain that the decentralized or "spread out" nature of bitcoin computers makes it indestructable to gov't or Fed intervention.    they'll like that.
10.  when they ask what its denominated in say that bitcoin is a currency UNTO ITSELF and "floats" in value against other fiat currencies like the USD but bitcoin is in fact NOT a fiat currency.  you might mention that you think that bitcoin will become the gold std against which all other currencies will be measured.
11. i wouldn't recommend newbies go to forum.bitcoin.org especially with all the trolls we've been getting there recently.  the best place for them to go to learn about bitcoin is bitcoin.org which explains all the facts and has references.

love ya man.
legendary
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now AJ and his fans can donate to wikileaks =)
member
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That was SWEET!!!

I put out the mention of the bitcoin forum as well. Should stir up quite a bit of attention!

Alex Jones is ON IT NOW!

Just turned MILLIONS of people onto the idea of bitcoin JUST NOW!!!

If anyone wants to donate:  Grin

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Hah. Maybe that's the reason why it will rise this weekend?
legendary
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So what you're saying is that he is a dink? Smiley


Well I do stand up for him on occasion, but I would not defend him against that accusation.  Wink

Oh come on, AJ is not a dink. He is just enthusiastic and realistic about the war he's fighting. We are up against some extremely ruthless people, playing nicey-nice is not going to go very far. Granted it's not the best way to draw people in, but its his nature, and he wouldn't be AJ if he didn't cut people off and go on thumping rants!
sr. member
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I applaud the effort, but it did not look like he was at all interested or intrigued by bitcoins. I have not heard of his name before (Maybe I'm living under a rock) but I imagine if his show is as well known as people seem to think, this will generate quite a bit of momentum.

The host does seem like kind of a dink.

His websites are just under some of the top websites for news on the internet. His radio show has more listeners than practically any show out there today. He is THE KING of alternative media and his program is simulcast all around the world by hundreds of affiliates. He is heard by millions worldwide daily.

So what you're saying is that he is a dink? Smiley

Well I do stand up for him on occasion, but I would not defend him against that accusation.  Wink
full member
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I applaud the effort, but it did not look like he was at all interested or intrigued by bitcoins. I have not heard of his name before (Maybe I'm living under a rock) but I imagine if his show is as well known as people seem to think, this will generate quite a bit of momentum.

The host does seem like kind of a dink.

His websites are just under some of the top websites for news on the internet. His radio show has more listeners than practically any show out there today. He is THE KING of alternative media and his program is simulcast all around the world by hundreds of affiliates. He is heard by millions worldwide daily.

So what you're saying is that he is a dink? Smiley
sr. member
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I applaud the effort, but it did not look like he was at all interested or intrigued by bitcoins. I have not heard of his name before (Maybe I'm living under a rock) but I imagine if his show is as well known as people seem to think, this will generate quite a bit of momentum.

The host does seem like kind of a dink.

His websites are just under some of the top websites for news on the internet. His radio show has more listeners than practically any show out there today. He is THE KING of alternative media and his program is simulcast all around the world by hundreds of affiliates. He is heard by millions worldwide daily.
full member
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I applaud the effort, but it did not look like he was at all interested or intrigued by bitcoins. I have not heard of his name before (Maybe I'm living under a rock) but I imagine if his show is as well known as people seem to think, this will generate quite a bit of momentum.

The host does seem like kind of a dink.
member
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You did well, bitrebel. What did fatty mean when he asked how it was denominated? Whether it's tied to the USD?

I've heard the name Alex Jones before, but never actually listened to his show. He sounds a little crazy to me.


He doesn't understand how it is at all. He asks what its denominated in because most of these alternate currencies are devised entirely from dollars. So if the dollar is being inflated so is this alternate currency.
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