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Quote from: Techbuilt Integral on December 16, 2019, 10:59:41 PM

Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Is that to you a small thing? Bitcoin is the first digital store of value ever created, that is not something small and it is a very useful function to perform especially since bitcoin is not connected to any country in particular so unlike the dollar it is a real universal currency of which you have complete control and that no one can take away legally from you without your permission, to me that is a huge thing and even if bitcoin never became adopted globally that will still be enough to guarantee its existence for a very long time.

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Quote from: jostorres on December 18, 2019, 03:35:29 AM

Nah, you're wrong, Bitcoin is not going to die. The reason why some of you say that Bitcoin is going to die is because you see the price fall. Price falling doesn't mean that bitcoin is dying, the price fluctuates because BTC is volatile. The only thing that matters most is how many people are ready to make use of Bitcoin, the price doesn't really matter. As long as people are still making use of Bitcoin then it is not dead, even if the price should fall down to zero.

We think that bitcoin will not die because of its price right now, thousands higher than the others so that is why we keep telling it to ourselves but what is real is that bitcoin could actually die, not now but it is possible. The fact that it is decentralized speaks a lot, its price and reputation gained from people's trust on which can be relinquish again especially now that we have better cryptocurrencies like EOS.

Quote from: jostorres on December 18, 2019, 03:35:29 AM

The same thing with Blockchain, it's not going to die as well. Blockchain is going to be used in lots of ways and not only transaction. It's left for us to discover areas where they will be useful.

Blockchain as multi-field in tact is impossible to die. I believe that it id thr future's technology of data security which means protecting of public good so there is no way it will be just a thing to set aside.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on December 17, 2019, 09:17:12 AM

There are a lot of countries now start adopting blockchain technology because this is very useful in terms of economic growth and progress.
But blockchain will not work without a host and it should have strong crypto that might be used, bitcoin is the one so far. I dont think bitcoin might be over, in fact, it is now on the global market and become in the mainstream.

Bitcoin was popularized by Satoshi making an advantage towards blockchain technology. However, some big companies have a fear, and are not willing to take the risk bitcoin has to offer. Thus, they make their own coin as well, but the thing is people always ended up in bitcoin. If people are going to accept blockchain might as well take bitcoin in there.

I can imagine how decent the market is, if people are going to do such thing.

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Quote from: Techbuilt Integral on December 16, 2019, 10:59:41 PM

Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore

Bitcoin will go down when last miner will stop mining it. For Bitcoin to work you only need two users. Where there were Satoshi and Hal Finney, they made it work. Satoshi by himself could not. I mean he could send coins to himself, but that would be just pointless.

I agree and aside from miners here must be sender and receiver or the masses who'll use this blockchain technology. As long as bitcoin fulfilled its purpose, a decentralized cryptocurrency then bitcoin is here to stay. As long as bitcoin is being utilized because of its flexibility, secure and fast and being decentralized more people are joining the ranks of using it.

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Quote from: karanggatak on December 18, 2019, 06:31:41 AM

yes you are right op most people and the government would agree and support blockchain technology even if they don't like or reject bitcoin. and if someday bitcoin crashes blockchain technology will continue to develop because blockchain technology can be applied in all fields.
but i never thought bitcoin would crash i am sure bitcoin will be there for a long time. bitcoin already has a large fan and community so it won't be easy to fall and disappear.

Since Bitcoin first used blockchain technology, their names are already attached to each other and even if most government will accept blockchain technology, even if they don't like Bitcoin, it's hard to remove bitcoin's name when talking about blockchain technology. I can see that as long blockchain continue to be known and accepted, people's knowledge about crypto and bitcoin will also increase. Then Bitcoin will be more stronger.

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Quote from: KennyR on December 17, 2019, 01:25:10 PM

Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know. If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.

Why when bitcoin dies then the blockchain will become unused? aren't the two things different? Blockchain is a technological innovation, where this technology can be developed far better than just focusing on the financial system.

If we explore many threads in this forum, there are already many members who express their opinions about blockchain technology in the future. Many innovations that can be developed with this technology such as elections, insurance, IoT, etc.
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yes you are right op most people and the government would agree and support blockchain technology even if they don't like or reject bitcoin. and if someday bitcoin crashes blockchain technology will continue to develop because blockchain technology can be applied in all fields.
but i never thought bitcoin would crash i am sure bitcoin will be there for a long time. bitcoin already has a large fan and community so it won't be easy to fall and disappear.

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Quote from: Techbuilt Integral on December 16, 2019, 10:59:41 PM

Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
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This is the reality: today the world around us is changing faster than ever before. It's strange that you haven't noticed it. And maybe because of this inattentiveness you have a wrong impression about the place of Bitcoin in the future world.

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Quote from: Techbuilt Integral on December 16, 2019, 10:59:41 PM

Bitcoin keeps going down and forecasts of a rebound don't fulfill anymore
Cryptocurrencies should be moving beyond from being just value storage. Real functionality is needed.

Blockchain technology is well positioned to be the next level of money evolution
But governments are starting to implement it because they know it can save their ailing printed money

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Blockchain will definitely live because a lot of countries and businesses are starting to adopt blockchain that it is very useful for making transactions, but i don't think that bitcoin will be over because bitcoin can also be useful the only thing that they hate with bitcoin is it does not have a stable price and it is been used for illegal activities, that is why a lot of countries banned it.

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Day by day Blockchain is becoming a popular platform around the world because of having a future's potentialities, I also think Bitcoin is getting accepted in many regions, though it's been price volatility still a lot of people are getting attached to this platform in this days, It's sad but true that Bitcoin is going down for many reasons but following my observation, it will stay for a long time and blockchain will create a revolution in the financial aspect. but one thing you have to remind that Blockchain has been popular through Bitcoin so the success of this system also more or less depending on Bitcoin's stability.

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Nah, you're wrong, Bitcoin is not going to die. The reason why some of you say that Bitcoin is going to die is because you see the price fall. Price falling doesn't mean that bitcoin is dying, the price fluctuates because BTC is volatile. The only thing that matters most is how many people are ready to make use of Bitcoin, the price doesn't really matter. As long as people are still making use of Bitcoin then it is not dead, even if the price should fall down to zero.

The same thing with Blockchain, it's not going to die as well. Blockchain is going to be used in lots of ways and not only transaction. It's left for us to discover areas where they will be useful.

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Quote from: hahay on December 17, 2019, 05:33:05 PM

It will not end, indeed some people will think about the worrying future of bitcoin because it has no stable value and is still difficult to use in a wider scope, but if we are aware of countries that have reduced to using cash, then at least it is a way in which digital money will be more developed in the future and about bitcoin itself which has become a pioneer for this digital era so of course bitcoin will not end just because of the continuing decline so far.

The price of the bitcoin today is not reasonable because from the previous months came from nine thousand dollars the price fall to over seven thousand dollars it is not suitable for the people who already invested the bitcoin from the last months because it has a loss of income today, but its good for the new investors, because they are now invested with the value of the bitcoin, is low and it gives them profit soon if the price grows up. The bitcoin is not over yet because this is just a start of having reset of the price of the coin, the price before of the bitcoin is low and rise again in this 2017, so there is a possibility this may happen again, the price of the bitcoin today is not profitable for short term trading it is better to use the altcoins for your daily income, but in the long term for sure the bitcoin will be back soon.

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The blockchain is a separate thing from bitcoin, bitcoin is only an asset that anyone can trade but it doesn't equalize to the potential success of blockchain. Blockchain is a revolutionary technology that our world needs because it will give efficiency and also a form of security for any system that will use it.

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Quote from: Rickeo on December 17, 2019, 08:01:23 AM

There comes a point though when Bitcoin will reach it's pinnacle, I'm not saying we're there yet, I'm not saying Bitcoin is done, what I am saying is that, even if it's not in our lifetime, Bitcoin wont go up and up and up in value, certainly not at the rate it has been anyway.

A 'boring' Bitcoin means it's become fucking humongous. By that point even if there's no new blood it will still be one of the very best places to park your value as it will continue to appreciate against the depreciating money most people are paid in.

It will also be immune to the unimaginable kludges that are coming to attempt to keep the regular economies twitching. We ain't seen nothing yet.

People who think like the average peabrain here with the patience and perspective of a toddler who announce doom because they got fucked on Bitmex today will be long gone and long broken. Those who stick around will have rather different feelings eventually.

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It will not end, indeed some people will think about the worrying future of bitcoin because it has no stable value and is still difficult to use in a wider scope, but if we are aware of countries that have reduced to using cash, then at least it is a way in which digital money will be more developed in the future and about bitcoin itself which has become a pioneer for this digital era so of course bitcoin will not end just because of the continuing decline so far.

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Quote from: KennyR on December 17, 2019, 01:25:10 PM

Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know. If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.

Yes, it is correct. Blockchain was created for bitcoin and without the first use case (bitcoin) nobody would even be interested in blockchain and nobody would be able to see it work and recognize what else can be done with it.
OP is proclaiming Bitcoin dead when in fact only 4 years ago people were trading Bitcoin for 300 USD! I bought some of my Bitcoins for 500-600 USD. I understand that some of newcomers can look at the last 4 months and think that it's dying but it's 10 years old! We've seen much worse.

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Quote from: KennyR on December 17, 2019, 01:25:10 PM

Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know.

that is also what i witness so you are right , we believe in one thing . blockchain became noticeable after btc got popular but now , people easily say that blockchain can live without btc .

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If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.

that can happen but if btc already known but let say didnt get a hype i guess blockchain can still continue because people are going to inspect if what drives btc . btc itself is not also a technology and most importantly it cant make anything perfect because btc isnt also perfect .

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Blockchain was known to the world through bitcoin, whether my understanding is correct or no I don't know. If bitcoin isn't successful blockchain too might have gone as an unused technology. Now through bitcoin it is known as a technology that can make everything in a perfect way in an efficient manner. Until blockchain lives bitcoin will live, because only a technology better than blockchain only can defeat bitcoin.

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Quote from: smyslov on December 17, 2019, 07:00:14 AM

After ten years and we still see people think Bitcoin will be over, I don't know how they are analyzing the situation I know OP is a newbie, but he should do a research and check if Bitcoin is really over

Bitcoin isn't "over". I'm not even sure what that means, which is why I put it in quotes. If bitcoin was dead, it wouldn't be valued at over $6k would it?

I also suspect that OP would not have started a thread like this a few months ago in the summer when bitcoin was over $10k. So did bitcoin die sometime between then and now? I don't think so. It isn't dead or dying, just taking a breather. OP must be new, because he obviously hasn't seen this kind of volatility before.

Quote from: Rickeo on December 17, 2019, 08:01:23 AM

There comes a point though when Bitcoin will reach it's pinnacle, I'm not saying we're there yet, I'm not saying Bitcoin is done,

It hasn't reached its pinnacle and it isn't "done" yet. You'll see.

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