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Topic: Bitcoin mixer or anonymous altcoin(xmr, dash), which is more anonymous? (Read 2529 times)

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The owners of bitcoin mixers might not even be able to trace your address since your coin is mixed by a computer program.
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The flaw with a mixer is that you are not anonymous to the operator of the mixer, so I would say that unless a flaw is discovered in Monero, it would be the most anonymous.

Well you are not anonymous to anyone after you have sent coins from your Bitcoin wallet. If people want to be truly anonymous they should not part with their Bitcoins and keep them locked in their wallets. And to be truly anonymous when trying to exchange Bitcoins people need to only opt for p2p real world transactions wearing masks so their faces won't be seen. There you have the ultimate Bitcoin anonymity  Grin

And most certainly you will pretty fast end up in a police station handcuffed as a potential terrorist (along with your counterparty as an accomplice, lol). When they learn that you were going to exchange some bitcoins, your chances to break free will plummet like a sledgehammer on an egg. So don't expect anything good of it and get ready for unintended consequences...

Needless to say that being anonymous will be the last thing you'd be looking for then
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The flaw with a mixer is that you are not anonymous to the operator of the mixer, so I would say that unless a flaw is discovered in Monero, it would be the most anonymous.

Well you are not anonymous to anyone after you have sent coins from your Bitcoin wallet. If people want to be truly anonymous they should not part with their Bitcoins and keep them locked in their wallets. And to be truly anonymous when trying to exchange Bitcoins people need to only opt for p2p real world transactions wearing masks so their faces won't be seen. There you have the ultimate Bitcoin anonymity  Grin
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I think that trading bitcoin between altcoins is more anonymous than using just a bitcoin mixer.
If you move your coins between wallets, it is all traceable on the blockchain. So everybody has the chance to do that.
When you trade bitcoins to altcoin, only the exchange site knows who made the trade.
But, if you look for tension free and without losing much while you are going for trading, bitcoin mixers must be right choice to have your anonymity. There are lot of alternatives to get your coins mixed. Still, a dedicated service is highly recommended as it has many proven advantages over other methods. Going for a reputed mixing services is another important thing to be mentioned here.
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I think that trading bitcoin between altcoins is more anonymous than using just a bitcoin mixer.
If you move your coins between wallets, it is all traceable on the blockchain. So everybody has the chance to do that.
When you trade bitcoins to altcoin, only the exchange site knows who made the trade.
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The flaw with a mixer is that you are not anonymous to the operator of the mixer, so I would say that unless a flaw is discovered in Monero, it would be the most anonymous.
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Hello guys, I just joint a bitcoin mixer campaign, I am new to bitcoin mixer service, and very curious about this.

My question is: Bitcoin mixer or anonymous altcoin(such as xmr, dash), which is more anonymous?

PS: feel free to click my signature to mix your bitcoin with only 1% fee.

I can`t say which is more anonymous.

I`ve never used bitcoin mixers and i`m not using small altcoins.

In both cases i`m afraid of scams.That`s why i`m not using them.
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I would like to say that I like how XMR has come to reinvent it's self as a totally anonymous coin and they can tote that to give it more on a promotional level. Smiley
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I think this those not matter anymore because most of them of course prpvodes anonymomity. What you should take time to watch is which one is more profitable

In legit bitcoin mixer, we don't worry about the loss of btc, if we buy anonymous coins, we may lose money when the price dump.
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 I think this those not matter anymore because most of them of course prpvodes anonymomity. What you should take time to watch is which one is more profitable
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I haven't used mixers much but I think they can give you a reasonable amount of privacy. There's one called Helix that will give you untainted coins and works under Tor. Use that and should be anonymous enough. XMR and Dash don't have enough volume, but are more anonymous, or at least XMR is, im not sure about Dash.

In the future I hope Bitcoin can be more anonymous and easier to use anonymously.

XMR and Dash do have big volumes, XMR had 100k btc trading volume on poloniex when the price was pumped over 0.025btc.

Today is also 10k btc.

http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/poloniex/#BTC

Helix, I know it now, thanks

this topic is turning into an altcoin advertisement.
everybody is only mentioning the coin they are bagholding. i searched for the coin he is mentioning here (helix) and funny thing is that you can't even find it on coinmarketcap since it is not even listed on major exchanges anyways. he is offering a coin with zero volume for some reason.
and the more funny thing is that the exchanges listed on their official topic are all dead. one of them doesn't even have the domain name any longer. and the rest has delisted it.!!

Yep, we should focus the topic about bitcoin mixer and anon coin.
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I haven't used mixers much but I think they can give you a reasonable amount of privacy. There's one called Helix that will give you untainted coins and works under Tor. Use that and should be anonymous enough. XMR and Dash don't have enough volume, but are more anonymous, or at least XMR is, im not sure about Dash.

In the future I hope Bitcoin can be more anonymous and easier to use anonymously.

XMR and Dash do have big volumes, XMR had 100k btc trading volume on poloniex when the price was pumped over 0.025btc.

Today is also 10k btc.

http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/poloniex/#BTC

Helix, I know it now, thanks

this topic is turning into an altcoin advertisement.
everybody is only mentioning the coin they are bagholding. i searched for the coin he is mentioning here (helix) and funny thing is that you can't even find it on coinmarketcap since it is not even listed on major exchanges anyways. he is offering a coin with zero volume for some reason.
and the more funny thing is that the exchanges listed on their official topic are all dead. one of them doesn't even have the domain name any longer. and the rest has delisted it.!!
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Hello guys, I just joint a bitcoin mixer campaign, I am new to bitcoin mixer service, and very curious about this.

My question is: Bitcoin mixer or anonymous altcoin(such as xmr, dash), which is more anonymous?
I think both of them is having a different definition, maybe like a mixer for erasing your transaction history or making someone is can't tracking your transaction history with mixing your coin with the various address...

but basically, mixer and monero are offering a same thing...

Dash and xmr should be more anon, you can see bitcoin mixers fees, very high, people prefer buy dash or xmr, and buy in the darknet market.

In the dark market there is always the risk of you being scammed. If you know a reliable source, a good website with good trust history and accepting escrow, please let me know by posting it's address url here or send me a PM.
I am very much interested to buy any coin in the dark net, from bitcoin to monero but so far no luck in finding a reliable source there.

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr   buy monero here is reliable, no.1 btc&altcoin exchange now.
You're not reading the post above you with more detailed, and your post is not connected with the Cerberus's purpose LOL...
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I haven't used mixers much but I think they can give you a reasonable amount of privacy. There's one called Helix that will give you untainted coins and works under Tor. Use that and should be anonymous enough. XMR and Dash don't have enough volume, but are more anonymous, or at least XMR is, im not sure about Dash.

In the future I hope Bitcoin can be more anonymous and easier to use anonymously.

XMR and Dash do have big volumes, XMR had 100k btc trading volume on poloniex when the price was pumped over 0.025btc.

Today is also 10k btc.

http://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/poloniex/#BTC

Helix, I know it now, thanks
legendary
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I haven't used mixers much but I think they can give you a reasonable amount of privacy. There's one called Helix that will give you untainted coins and works under Tor. Use that and should be anonymous enough. XMR and Dash don't have enough volume, but are more anonymous, or at least XMR is, im not sure about Dash.

In the future I hope Bitcoin can be more anonymous and easier to use anonymously.
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Hello guys, I just joint a bitcoin mixer campaign, I am new to bitcoin mixer service, and very curious about this.

My question is: Bitcoin mixer or anonymous altcoin(such as xmr, dash), which is more anonymous?
I think both of them is having a different definition, maybe like a mixer for erasing your transaction history or making someone is can't tracking your transaction history with mixing your coin with the various address...

but basically, mixer and monero are offering a same thing...

Dash and xmr should be more anon, you can see bitcoin mixers fees, very high, people prefer buy dash or xmr, and buy in the darknet market.

In the dark market there is always the risk of you being scammed. If you know a reliable source, a good website with good trust history and accepting escrow, please let me know by posting it's address url here or send me a PM.
I am very much interested to buy any coin in the dark net, from bitcoin to monero but so far no luck in finding a reliable source there.

https://www.poloniex.com/exchange#btc_xmr   buy monero here is reliable, no.1 btc&altcoin exchange now.
legendary
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Hello guys, I just joint a bitcoin mixer campaign, I am new to bitcoin mixer service, and very curious about this.

My question is: Bitcoin mixer or anonymous altcoin(such as xmr, dash), which is more anonymous?
I think both of them is having a different definition, maybe like a mixer for erasing your transaction history or making someone is can't tracking your transaction history with mixing your coin with the various address...

but basically, mixer and monero are offering a same thing...

Dash and xmr should be more anon, you can see bitcoin mixers fees, very high, people prefer buy dash or xmr, and buy in the darknet market.

In the dark market there is always the risk of you being scammed. If you know a reliable source, a good website with good trust history and accepting escrow, please let me know by posting it's address url here or send me a PM.
I am very much interested to buy any coin in the dark net, from bitcoin to monero but so far no luck in finding a reliable source there.
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XMR/Monero is the most anonymous one out there. Bitcoin mixers are centralized, dash is centralized, so I think we have a clear winner.

And the exchange is centralized, so we have a clear loser

Exchange? The OP is comparing mixer, xmr, and dash, not an exchange

Yes, and why he considers exchanges, we buy bitcoin and altcoin in exchanges, we don't care they are centralized or not. We focus on the security and anonymity.

different people want different things out of bitcoin and they want different level of anonymity and sometimes even they care less about level of security.

so for many even changing address is enough to stay anonymous and some only using a simple exchange to deposit and withdraw but there are people who mixing in one mixer is not enough for them.
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XMR/Monero is the most anonymous one out there. Bitcoin mixers are centralized, dash is centralized, so I think we have a clear winner.

And the exchange is centralized, so we have a clear loser

Exchange? The OP is comparing mixer, xmr, and dash, not an exchange

Yes, and why he considers exchanges, we buy bitcoin and altcoin in exchanges, we don't care they are centralized or not. We focus on the security and anonymity

Centralized means a higher chance to be infested or directly taken over by the agents of the three-letter government agencies. As you can easily see, it is directly linked to security and anonymity. If the system is properly decentralized it becomes either prohibitively expensive to taint it if it is located in one area (read country) or next to impossible if it is distributed across the globe...

Let alone taking it under full control
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XMR/Monero is the most anonymous one out there. Bitcoin mixers are centralized, dash is centralized, so I think we have a clear winner.

And the exchange is centralized, so we have a clear loser

Exchange? The OP is comparing mixer, xmr, and dash, not an exchange

Yes, and why he considers exchanges, we buy bitcoin and altcoin in exchanges, we don't care they are centralized or not. We focus on the security and anonymity.
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