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hero member
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March 06, 2017, 09:22:46 AM
#33
Hello i saw on centrabit app, they wrote article about the ETF.. we will see 2500-3000$ each BTC?
check out here:
http://www.centrabit.io/
This is cryptohobo someone hacked my account
Do Not trust this post do not follow the link do not download anything or run any software from there

It's now 2 days i try to say it.. i saw all his post were about this scam link

Good luck to recovery your account... and good look for those who have install the script and lost their btc.
newbie
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March 06, 2017, 08:18:48 AM
#32
Hello i saw on centrabit app, they wrote article about the ETF.. we will see 2500-3000$ each BTC?
check out here:
http://www.centrabit.io/
This is cryptohobo someone hacked my account
Do Not trust this post do not follow the link do not download anything or run any software from there
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
March 05, 2017, 09:49:10 PM
#31
IMO the dip could possibly go down to $700 or $800, but probably not any lower than that. If anything, it'll probably go to $900 at least.
Why do you even think it will be that much? It is not like we are expecting ETF to be accepted. We generally know it will be almost miracle if SEC will say 'yes'.

There is less than 25% chance, according to trading analysts, that COIN ETF will be accepted. So we shouldn't be disappointed at all = negative effect on the price should be minimal.
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 09:39:10 PM
#30
Hello i saw on centrabit app, they wrote article about the ETF.. we will see 2500-3000$ each BTC?
check out here:
http://www.centrabit.io/

It is certainly possible. Consider that the ETF would mean that anyone can go to their local bank and buy the COIN shares. It doesn't matter if you are a regular blue collar worker or a wall street shark, or an huge billionaire mogul... as long as you got a bank account im sure they will be willing to buy it for you.

This means massive amounts of money coming in. The marketcap is tiny, so price can go up quickly.

Yes.

If it doesn't pass, I think the dip will not be that noticeable.

No.


I'd have to disagree that the dip won't be noticeable. The people who believe that the ETF will be approved have adjusted their trading accordingly. They think bitcoin will go to the moon after ETF approval, so right now they're hoarding and getting ready for the spike. If that doesn't happen, there is a high chance that those people will sell the bitcoin they hoarded because they'll think that getting to the moon will take a lot longer.

IMO the dip could possibly go down to $700 or $800, but probably not any lower than that. If anything, it'll probably go to $900 at least.
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 06:55:09 PM
#29
it install realtekhd.exe (and many others if forget). Then it look if you have exchange, gmail account, if it can login then it will stole your btc or buy them as it did for me then try to send them to 1MJwmM3r5HgzJPxj2deGbb7ydSFS8geq7a (in my case).

Yes i know i should not have install it,i have trust "hero member" i will never ever do this mistake again. Anyway i will sell btc after my account back when price will be enough not to loose anything.

I just say it for others readers.  Ip that login into my exchange (bitstamp) was 46.166.165.19... http://cryptmarketcap.com/
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 06:40:49 PM
#28
Some users reported that there is a malware on that site Op shared. I tested the site and it is clean:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/d8c0449301d4a2998889f389cdc4ae5a25f65d8466bcc46f03f133d4f78946c1/analysis/1488735626/
But I didn't test the file itself. The mere fact that I need to install some app to read article is putting me off.

ETF will cause Bitcoin price to soar, but it is rather slim chance it will get approval from SEC, not this time, so why bother?

The site is clean. But install this : https://github.com/darwin72/centrabit/releases/download/v3.0.1/Centrabit-v3.0.1-Windows.zip and you will understand.  (of course DON'T do it!!)
Why? do you have any proof that the file from the link given is scam or there is any script that can still our bitcoins?
Looks like its an analysis tool but members here are still keep posting but they really not checking the link first before posting here..
Lets wait for more people to see about this link and test.. and better to install this on aws instances or vps.. so that you will be safe..
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 06:29:36 PM
#27
Hello i saw on centrabit app, they wrote article about the ETF.. we will see 2500-3000$ each BTC?
check out here:
http://www.centrabit.io/

It is certainly possible. Consider that the ETF would mean that anyone can go to their local bank and buy the COIN shares. It doesn't matter if you are a regular blue collar worker or a wall street shark, or an huge billionaire mogul... as long as you got a bank account im sure they will be willing to buy it for you.

This means massive amounts of money coming in. The marketcap is tiny, so price can go up quickly.

If it doesn't pass, I think the dip will not be that noticeable.
Yes, if SEC approve ETF which investors could see it as good opportunity to invest on bitcoin, it will be.
But, I hope stable increases than fast climb up and then fall down again. For them (investors) a regulation and legitimacy from SEC is a big deal as huge amount of money involved, so the increase is inevitable.
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 05:50:52 PM
#26
Some users reported that there is a malware on that site Op shared. I tested the site and it is clean:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/d8c0449301d4a2998889f389cdc4ae5a25f65d8466bcc46f03f133d4f78946c1/analysis/1488735626/
But I didn't test the file itself. The mere fact that I need to install some app to read article is putting me off.

ETF will cause Bitcoin price to soar, but it is rather slim chance it will get approval from SEC, not this time, so why bother?

The site is clean. But install this : https://github.com/darwin72/centrabit/releases/download/v3.0.1/Centrabit-v3.0.1-Windows.zip and you will understand.  (of course DON'T do it!!)
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
#25
I read a couple of previous month articles after the ETF approval. The first was claimed that may be fresh money would come in from retirement accounts and pension funds and the second one that the price will climb at first in $1,500 and before the end of the year will cross $2,000. But of course the writer as he said he expresses his personal opinion. I like the optimistic predictions both of the journalists but I am very skeptical about the investor preferences

With or without etf btc will reach 2000 usd this year. That's a non-brainer.
If the etf gets approved and is able to collect nice chunk of fiat the price will rise much higher than 2000 usd this year. Right now there are around 28 000 btc in the margin long positions on bitfinex and 13 000 btc in short positions at finex. That means there are around 15 000 btc more in long positions. If the etf is capable of raising 200 000 000 usd during the first week it means those long positions are eaten over 10 times at current price... However, I think the price rise is more likely than the longed coins being sold to etf at current spot.
sr. member
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Veni, Vidi, Vici
March 05, 2017, 02:51:34 PM
#24
I read a couple of previous month articles after the ETF approval. The first was claimed that may be fresh money would come in from retirement accounts and pension funds and the second one that the price will climb at first in $1,500 and before the end of the year will cross $2,000. But of course the writer as he said he expresses his personal opinion. I like the optimistic predictions both of the journalists but I am very skeptical about the investor preferences
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 01:52:17 PM
#23
Some users reported that there is a malware on that site Op shared. I tested the site and it is clean:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/d8c0449301d4a2998889f389cdc4ae5a25f65d8466bcc46f03f133d4f78946c1/analysis/1488735626/
But I didn't test the file itself. There mere fact that I need to install some app to read article is putting me off.

ETF will cause Bitcoin price to soar, but it is rather slim chance it will get approval from SEC, not this time, so why bother?

It seems to be a Java script.... has anyone else experienced this? It would be great to see them trying to lift bitcoins from my paper wallets.  Grin

I also never use the same device I browse around on the internet, to access my coins that are stored on my hardware wallet. The approval of the

ETF will push the price up, and this will attract more attention from hackers... so be careful.  Wink
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 12:46:58 PM
#22
Some users reported that there is a malware on that site Op shared. I tested the site and it is clean:
https://www.virustotal.com/en/url/d8c0449301d4a2998889f389cdc4ae5a25f65d8466bcc46f03f133d4f78946c1/analysis/1488735626/
But I didn't test the file itself. The mere fact that I need to install some app to read article is putting me off.

ETF will cause Bitcoin price to soar, but it is rather slim chance it will get approval from SEC, not this time, so why bother?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 501
March 05, 2017, 12:37:56 PM
#21
People who buy the bitcoin ETF are not buying bitcoin. They are buying a product aimed at following the price of bitcoin. The ETF will hold the bitcoin, or derivatives based on it.

but when they sell all of their shares they have to buy more bitcoin to back more shares. eventually it will have an effect on the market with coins being removed from it.

Yes, assuming a fully BTC backed ETF (like a gold ETF backed by physical gold).

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I think basically how it works, is that ETF fund buys X amount of BTC holdings, puts it in cold storage, and sells X amount of ETF shares in an IPO. The fund then trades like a share in the open market.
What ties the value of the ETF to that similar to the price of BTC, is the arbitrages buying and selling the ETF shares and BTC's to maintain a parity in value.

If they then want to sell more ETF shares, they will have to buy more BTC to back it. If people start buying up ETF shares on the open market raising its price, BTC has to be bought to increase the BTC price to match it. It's very likely a lot of derivatives are going to have to be used to try and maintain the ETF value to the underlying asset.

EDIT: If the price of BTC is $2000, and the ETF price is $3000, then the ETF can be short sold as alternative to rising the BTC price, but that doesn't come without risks either.

That probably makes the SEC nervous, as bitcoins market cap is still small and not that liquid. If it does get approved, it will probably come with a lot of conditions at the start.
legendary
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March 05, 2017, 12:12:30 PM
#20
2500-3000$ each BTC?

Throwing around arbitrary figures won't get us anywhere.  Numbers of where Bitcoin could go after the ETF are generally based on weak speculation.  Frankly, it could go nearly anywhere.  However, maybe the ETF will result in a rise of Bitcoin but I think that people are viewing this as an event that will just instantly throw Bitcoin into the stars.  

It'll take time and time to build legitimacy.  The volatility of Bitcoin right now based on that event might even stop Bitcoin getting the ETF as it wouldn't be seen as legitimate or reliable.

yeah too much excitement that might result in disappointment, last time there was this huge news about EFT approval nothing happened to bitcoin, i know this is a bit different because they are launching it but still the news can't have that strong of an impact on the value

I am of course hoping that the ETF will get approved, but if it doesn't, then it's no big deal for me. There is more than just this ETF that people seem to hype up. One thing is sure, everything is pure speculation. It might turn out that even when this ETF doesn't come through, the price won't give a damn. But we can't simply put aside the importance of a potential approval. It will allow professional capital to flow into the market.
sr. member
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March 05, 2017, 11:45:35 AM
#19
2500-3000$ each BTC?

Throwing around arbitrary figures won't get us anywhere.  Numbers of where Bitcoin could go after the ETF are generally based on weak speculation.  Frankly, it could go nearly anywhere.  However, maybe the ETF will result in a rise of Bitcoin but I think that people are viewing this as an event that will just instantly throw Bitcoin into the stars.  

It'll take time and time to build legitimacy.  The volatility of Bitcoin right now based on that event might even stop Bitcoin getting the ETF as it wouldn't be seen as legitimate or reliable.

yeah too much excitement that might result in disappointment, last time there was this huge news about EFT approval nothing happened to bitcoin, i know this is a bit different because they are launching it but still the news can't have that strong of an impact on the value
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 11:19:01 AM
#18

I don't understand why hero member answer to this scam link that stole all your password and your btc !!!

whats wrong with you ??
What are you mean about scam link? but after try to get more check it seems like the link will redirect me into the trader bot site.  Huh

If you install "Charting and data visualization solutions for crypto markets, built in 100% pure Java" you will get a malware that will try to find your google account (for F2A) connect to your exchange, buy btc then send it to an address. It bought btc for me but can't withdraw them

So i don't understand why this link is NOT DELETE, every newbie as i did will install it then lost their btc. I have frozen my account because of this f*** java and this f*** link.


hero member
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March 05, 2017, 11:02:36 AM
#17
Hello i saw on centrabit app, they wrote article about the ETF.. we will see 2500-3000$ each BTC?
check out here:
http://www.centrabit.io/

It is certainly possible. Consider that the ETF would mean that anyone can go to their local bank and buy the COIN shares. It doesn't matter if you are a regular blue collar worker or a wall street shark, or an huge billionaire mogul... as long as you got a bank account im sure they will be willing to buy it for you.
Never heard of ETFs being for all comers, have always known it to be some investment tool for the institutions and high networth individuals, who are actually the ones to afford the cost of having to buy those shares in bulk.

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This means massive amounts of money coming in. The marketcap is tiny, so price can go up quickly.
If it doesn't pass, I think the dip will not be that noticeable.

Don't forget they are not buying Bitcoin direct par se, rather it is the shares of an instrument that tracks Bitcoin that would be on sale. What ETF approval would likely do for Bitcoin is that it is going to tag a sort of endorsement for Bitcoin and then more adoption by wealthy people.
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 10:46:20 AM
#16
I don't understand why hero member answer to this scam link that stole all your password and your btc !!!

whats wrong with you ??
What are you mean about scam link? but after try to get more check it seems like the link will redirect me into the trader bot site.  Huh
hero member
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March 05, 2017, 10:42:51 AM
#15
Hello i saw on centrabit app, they wrote article about the ETF.. we will see 2500-3000$ each BTC?
check out here:
http://www.centrabit.io/

It is certainly possible. Consider that the ETF would mean that anyone can go to their local bank and buy the COIN shares. It doesn't matter if you are a regular blue collar worker or a wall street shark, or an huge billionaire mogul... as long as you got a bank account im sure they will be willing to buy it for you.

This means massive amounts of money coming in. The marketcap is tiny, so price can go up quickly.

If it doesn't pass, I think the dip will not be that noticeable.

If the ETF is passed, it is possible. Otherwise, next year.
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 725
March 05, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
#14
I don't understand why hero member answer to this scam link that stole all your password and your btc !!!

whats wrong with you ??
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