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Topic: Bitcoin Rally - Bill in Congress to treat Bitcoin as Currency - page 2. (Read 2978 times)

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Why the long face?
I think it is moral and reasonable to minimize your taxes within the law.

I think it is immoral to evade the taxes that you owe.


I also think it is immoral to write the tax laws for your own personal benefit, but so is most of what the lawmakers do before they go back to their banking jobs.
legendary
Activity: 1246
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I consider it immoral to pay taxes.

+1

Anyone that reduces the taxes they pay, either legally or illegally, has my respect.
sr. member
Activity: 381
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Thanks for having my back.  I didn't make the laws, I'm just using it to my advantage.  It frees up more of my money to give to good causes instead of propping up the US government to go around acting like a jerk to the rest of the world.

Of course, many of you may disagree on how much of a scumbag I am when you find out what age I am retiring at.  Wink

In regard to all the above, we're of like mind.. and I'll be joining the retirement-age scumbag club right along with ya   Grin

Sigg
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Why the long face?
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jews ... are by definition foreigners no matter where they go.  ... jews ... gays, gypsies ... jews

The only thing Hitler did wrong was lose the war.
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Go fuck yourself.
sr. member
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That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.

goodness! if US citizens didnt pay taxes, the government couldnt make military aircraft, helicopters, war ships, thousands of nukes, pay troups, feed troups, fund private military organisations, and worst of all, they couldn't go bomb a bunch of countries.

BitchicksHusband is no scumbag, his taxes are not going to a good cause.

Thanks for having my back.  I didn't make the laws, I'm just using it to my advantage.  It frees up more of my money to give to good causes instead of propping up the US government to go around acting like a jerk to the rest of the world.

Of course, many of you may disagree on how much of a scumbag I am when you find out what age I am retiring at.  Wink
sr. member
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Stop the bitchfight!

Paying tax is no fun but without taxes you'll live in a hellhole for sure. Countries don't live off of donations (yet).
Everyone should pay their taxes and everyone should pay ONLY their share as defined by the law.
Minimizing your tax expenditure, within legal boundaries, should be done by everyone in my opinion. If can pay 0% tax then you should!!!

awww.. but a good bitchfight is just so much fun.. and I've had a rough day at work  Tongue

I do agree 100% with everything else you said above, however..

Sigg
legendary
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That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.

goodness! if US citizens didnt pay taxes, the government couldnt make military aircraft, helicopters, war ships, thousands of nukes, pay troups, feed troups, fund private military organisations, and worst of all, they couldn't go bomb a bunch of countries.

BitchicksHusband is no scumbag, his taxes are not going to a good cause. If I understand correctly, it's not going to Obama care.... LOL.

you know, a mexican drug lord that was arrested was found to have So many billions of US dollars in his mansion that he could pay for the healthcare of all US citizens for 2 years.

This bullshit that we all need to pay our 15% taxes is bullshit. what we need is a government that has power to take money from the multinational corporations, and spend that money efficiently.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1278

I consider it immoral to pay taxes. Listen to Hillary Clinton support the murder of half a million children to support the petrodollar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo

If you have lived in Nazi Germany, would you have helped to hide Jews? Or would you have helped the government? Adolf Eichman obeyed the laws of his country, yet is despised by most people in the world.




ha ha ha...  Sorry you are a joke.

Punchline #1:  comparing things to Nazi, Hitler, killing Jews... especially when it comes to arguing against "paying taxes".

Punchline #2:  Did you even read the title of that youtube video?  Give you a hint is wasn't Hillary Clinton...

Go bad to the kids table, come back when you can at a least read a youtube video title.
Ait, history time. What Hitler wanted was to keep Germany safe. Excessive immigration is destructive to any culture, and since jews have never had their own country (they were originally nomads) they are by definition foreigners no matter where they go. As such, getting rid of the jews was a good move for Germany. The jew issue has also been greatly exaggerated. The nazis also went after gays, gypsies and anything else that was detrimental to a lasting culture. The jews was just a small part of it, yet it has been blown up to this huge thing by revisionist historians.

The only thing Hitler did wrong was lose the war. The winner is always right. Just ask the americans.
legendary
Activity: 1652
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That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.

Good lord.. are you for real..  Or do you just not understand the concept of LEGALLY minimizing the taxes you pay?  Up to a certain income, capital gains are tax free.  It is very simple to live off of capital gains and LEGALLY pay 0% on your taxes.   

As giving the gov't your money is so important to you, I'm assuming you are donating to the federal government over and above your legally required tax burden?  What, you're NOT?  you SCUMBAG !!!  If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?


Stop the bitchfight!

Paying tax is no fun but without taxes you'll live in a hellhole for sure. Countries don't live off of donations (yet).
Everyone should pay their taxes and everyone should pay ONLY their share as defined by the law.
Minimizing your tax expenditure, within legal boundaries, should be done by everyone in my opinion. If can pay 0% tax then you should!!!
sr. member
Activity: 381
Merit: 250
That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.

Good lord.. are you for real..  Or do you just not understand the concept of LEGALLY minimizing the taxes you pay?  Up to a certain income, capital gains are tax free.  It is very simple to live off of capital gains and LEGALLY pay 0% on your taxes.   

As giving the gov't your money is so important to you, I'm assuming you are donating to the federal government over and above your legally required tax burden?  What, you're NOT?  you SCUMBAG !!!  If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

sr. member
Activity: 381
Merit: 250
That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

Have to agree here...  I saw people going all apeshit over the initial ruling and just can't get my head around why...  Doesn't everyone (well us Americans anyways) realize that this was the BEST realistic tax treatment for bitcoin?  Classifying Bitcoin as currency means the majority of Americans will pay MORE in taxes.   The only thing that could have been better was a ruling of no-taxes.. and I do not consider this a realistic hope.

Sigg

You aren't thinking this through. Treating bitcoins as property for tax purposes makes it hard to spend. If it is hard to spend then nobody will use it. If nobody uses it, then it's value will be 0, and your investment will be worth nothing.

You aren't thinking this through. Treating bitcoins as currency for tax purposes makes it hard to spend.  If it is hard to spend.......   

Most Americans are at least familiar with how capital gains work.  How many Americans actually know how to report foreign currency transactions?  Do YOU know all the reporting requirements for foreign currency transactions?  Assuming someone wants to be legit on his taxes it is much easier and cheaper for the average american if BTC is property, not currency.  Heck, I'd wager a significant portion of tax PREPARERS aren't completely up on all the FOREX reporting requirements.

This of course assumes that the average american actually wants to correctly pay their taxes.  If not, then both our opinions are moot.
legendary
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I consider it immoral to pay taxes. Listen to Hillary Clinton support the murder of half a million children to support the petrodollar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo

If you have lived in Nazi Germany, would you have helped to hide Jews? Or would you have helped the government? Adolf Eichman obeyed the laws of his country, yet is despised by most people in the world.




ha ha ha...  Sorry you are a joke.

Punchline #1:  comparing things to Nazi, Hitler, killing Jews... especially when it comes to arguing against "paying taxes".

Punchline #2:  Did you even read the title of that youtube video?  Give you a hint is wasn't Hillary Clinton...

Go bad to the kids table, come back when you can at a least read a youtube video title.
hero member
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That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.

I consider it immoral to pay taxes. Listen to Hillary Clinton support the murder of half a million children to support the petrodollar:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PgpbQfxgo

If you have lived in Nazi Germany, would you have helped to hide Jews? Or would you have helped the government? Adolf Eichman obeyed the laws of his country, yet is despised by most people in the world.

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You aren't thinking this through. Treating bitcoins as property for tax purposes makes it hard to spend. If it is hard to spend then nobody will use it. If nobody uses it, then it's value will be 0, and your investment will be worth nothing.
I agree.

And the current ruling makes even less sense from the mining standpoint. Very obnoxious policy.
legendary
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That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.

LOL, if married you pay 0% cap gains rate if your total income is < $70000... its a tax break for retirees.

legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1265
That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.
But what if you don't love your country?

Then go to another country where taxes are low or non existent. Don't expect good roads, schools for your kids, police to stop criminals or your garbage to be picked up.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.
But what if you don't love your country?

Your country still loves your tax revenue.
legendary
Activity: 2268
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That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.
But what if you don't love your country?
newbie
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That would be FAR worse, for me at least.  I plan on retiring and paying 0% taxes!  How can I do that if they class it as a currency?

That's very smart of you! Are you from US? If so, not paying your taxes is. Ot only a crime, but it is what SCUMBAGS DO! If you love your country, then don't we need money for schools? What about the road your car drives on? Or bridges? How about parks? He'll...what about that Submarine currently looking for the MH370 plane?

Listen, paying taxes suck! But it is necessary in modern societies. You can debate all you want how crooked politicians waste our tax income, or how taxes are too high...but one thing you SHOULD NOT DO IS NOT PAY YOUR TAXES! That is one of the dumbest AND least patriotic things you can do!  If you love your country, then you must pay your taxes. Period.


What a load of crap. Government Opinion Controller? Or what's Your day-work pal..? Patriots don't pay taxes to a regime that destroys their country. And thinking People ain't that happy about the government stealing their hard-earned Money anyways so.. Schools, parks etc could easily be funded With half the current taxes.


edit: 10% Of current taxes. But then government could hire you to spread government tax-propaganda online and you'd be out of work.. Shocked
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