Bitcoin rising to 600$ , pure manipulation ? - page 2.

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Quote from: 23dzmaz on October 02, 2016, 08:52:05 PM

I think it's not manipulation. Because, if the price of bitcoin at $600 is pure manipulation, the price will decrease soon. But it's not decrease and the price of bitcoin become stable at $600 price.

I also do not think it was manipulation but the strange thing was there was not happening a lot in that time period.
I really doubt about it, it could be a manipulation but I do not think it is.

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Quote from: Bradexterb on October 03, 2016, 02:31:14 AM

I dont think it was just manipulation because allot of people known tat the price of the bitcoin was 600 dollar and for now still 600 dollar so dont think it is juse manipulatin becuase it is not.

The Bitcoin needs to rise again if you ask me and it needs to rise higher because I want to make some money again and I am losing my patient.
I hope that the price can still rise again in 2016.

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I dont think it was just manipulation because allot of people known tat the price of the bitcoin was 600 dollar and for now still 600 dollar so dont think it is juse manipulatin becuase it is not.

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I think it's not manipulation. Because, if the price of bitcoin at $600 is pure manipulation, the price will decrease soon. But it's not decrease and the price of bitcoin become stable at $600 price.

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Actually everything in the bitcoin price is based on mere speculation, and speculation is an elegant way to talk about manipulation. Because of the relativity of its alleged intrinsic value, it is really difficult to define what should be the real value of bitcoin.

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Quote from: vero on October 01, 2016, 04:06:56 PM

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Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

Yes it was a manipulation, but the price will not get manipulated anymore, I think that the price is gonna go to a higher amount than the actual 600 dollar right now.

how can you say it was manipulation?

if it were manipulation it could never last long. as we have seen in past with bitcoin price when it was manipulated to $1200 and also as we see everyday in altcoin markets the manipulated price never lasts long because the manipulators cash out.

but a real rise lasts because there is demand that has helped the rise.

i agree with your opinion on a coin that can not last long if it has been manipulated but to the issue the price of bitcoin up to $ 1,200 it all happened not because of manipulation but people at that time thought that the pump will continue.

If people though it would go higher, it was because of manipulation.
These things are like self-fulfilling prophecies.
The price gets manipulated and then innocent people get sucked in.

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Quote from: BitcoinHodler on September 29, 2016, 07:23:39 AM

Quote from: Erzatium on September 29, 2016, 07:03:37 AM

Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

Yes it was a manipulation, but the price will not get manipulated anymore, I think that the price is gonna go to a higher amount than the actual 600 dollar right now.

how can you say it was manipulation?

if it were manipulation it could never last long. as we have seen in past with bitcoin price when it was manipulated to $1200 and also as we see everyday in altcoin markets the manipulated price never lasts long because the manipulators cash out.

but a real rise lasts because there is demand that has helped the rise.

i agree with your opinion on a coin that can not last long if it has been manipulated but to the issue the price of bitcoin up to $ 1,200 it all happened not because of manipulation but people at that time thought that the pump will continue.

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Quote from: BitcoinHodler on September 29, 2016, 07:23:39 AM

Quote from: Erzatium on September 29, 2016, 07:03:37 AM

Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

Yes it was a manipulation, but the price will not get manipulated anymore, I think that the price is gonna go to a higher amount than the actual 600 dollar right now.

how can you say it was manipulation?

if it were manipulation it could never last long. as we have seen in past with bitcoin price when it was manipulated to $1200 and also as we see everyday in altcoin markets the manipulated price never lasts long because the manipulators cash out.

but a real rise lasts because there is demand that has helped the rise.

I agree on this, if you study the trades, if this thing is a manipulation, after some day bitcoin price will start to decline but instead, it push the price higher then some mild fluctuation and stay in that for several days. I think this i s the correct or actual value of bitcoin at this stage. Correction does it and now it is ready for another increase in price.

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Quote from: Erzatium on September 29, 2016, 07:03:37 AM

Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

Yes it was a manipulation, but the price will not get manipulated anymore, I think that the price is gonna go to a higher amount than the actual 600 dollar right now.

yes, I agree with you. it is still possible for the price to rise even higher. I hope that the price of bitcoin is not manipulated. some people say bitcoin prices according to market demand.

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Quote from: Erzatium on September 29, 2016, 07:03:37 AM

Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

Yes it was a manipulation, but the price will not get manipulated anymore, I think that the price is gonna go to a higher amount than the actual 600 dollar right now.

how can you say it was manipulation?

if it were manipulation it could never last long. as we have seen in past with bitcoin price when it was manipulated to $1200 and also as we see everyday in altcoin markets the manipulated price never lasts long because the manipulators cash out.

but a real rise lasts because there is demand that has helped the rise.

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Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

Yes it was a manipulation, but the price will not get manipulated anymore, I think that the price is gonna go to a higher amount than the actual 600 dollar right now.

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Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

It was a big manipulation but I think that this price will stand strong and that it will go up from now on to be honest.
Of course we cannot predict this but there is a big chance it will.

any price rise an price fall has some amount of manipulation in it without an exception. but the amount of manipulation is no longer "big" as you may thing because the time has changed a lot since the time of MtGox and big manipulations.

also as a proof you can see that price is still staying where it should which shows little amount of manipulations as manipulations tends to break down eventually and price would have fell already!

I don't think so, and this is just little price up or shall we say rally and i think also this is just a normal happening on bitcoin since the progress is slow and turn stable, but if we see the price kick quickly up i think those scenario we can really think that price is manipulated, but at this moment i believe this one is just normal bitcoins characteristics movement, and i am not surprise for these happening.

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Quote from: phreaky on September 28, 2016, 03:34:01 AM

I don't think prices were manipulated to reach 600 I think just alot more people started buying in and then prices reached 620 then people panic sold and wanted profit to prices went back to 590-600.
If people stop panic selling then we can actually keep increasing in price.

That is correct. 10% jumps either up or down are normal Bitcoin behaviour, and are typical for such a volatile asset. Current price level is around $600 and thus one should allow $50-60 each way without deeper analysing what happened. Once we go outside of these bands, then we may look at it more carefully and think whether it is yet another pump (or dump) and so on.

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I don't think prices were manipulated to reach 600 I think just alot more people started buying in and then prices reached 620 then people panic sold and wanted profit to prices went back to 590-600.
If people stop panic selling then we can actually keep increasing in price.

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Off course that is pure manipulation because i know for sure that allot of bitcoin users are not paying attention at how they are dealing with the bitcoin not selling any coin.

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Why do all people think that bitcoin rising is always manipulation because they are finally going to sell any coins the greedy holders and maybe that is why the price if going up and up right now?

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Quote from: DavidoAlto on September 27, 2016, 09:59:25 AM

Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

It was a big manipulation but I think that this price will stand strong and that it will go up from now on to be honest.
Of course we cannot predict this but there is a big chance it will.

any price rise an price fall has some amount of manipulation in it without an exception. but the amount of manipulation is no longer "big" as you may thing because the time has changed a lot since the time of MtGox and big manipulations.

also as a proof you can see that price is still staying where it should which shows little amount of manipulations as manipulations tends to break down eventually and price would have fell already!

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Quote from: Newcoins2020 on September 26, 2016, 02:46:12 PM

The price rise since november last years was one big manipulation game. This is as clear as can be. Question is when will they stop. Is the current price enough and will they endure a downwars trend to 500 dollar or are they planning a new boost this year?

It was a big manipulation but I think that this price will stand strong and that it will go up from now on to be honest.
Of course we cannot predict this but there is a big chance it will.

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Quote from: Cozynunu on September 27, 2016, 07:07:56 AM

I dont think it is just pure manupulation because i know that the price of the bitcoin is circling aroung the 600 dollar for allong time and that is not what it supposed to be because we want a price rise not fall.

If three months can be called a long time then you are probably right. People tend to think in an extremely short time scale in Bitcoin, as they were all day trading.

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I dont think it is just pure manupulation because i know that the price of the bitcoin is circling aroung the 600 dollar for allong time and that is not what it supposed to be because we want a price rise not fall.

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