Hey there mike,
I have ordered the blanks from you a few weeks ago, I'm very happy with these.
I looked up the hologram sticker, I found the place poly.. in Ontario Canada
I like the posts you mentioned coming out to salt lake city, UT and witness the process and verify.. im interested if this is still possible..
I kno they cracked down on u selling the loaded coins.. but we don't want to do it like that.
if your interested in this
please contact me back.
thank you
JJ
Topic: Bitcoin Security Holograms - Artwork Sample (Read 10700 times)
1)Why did you choose a $500 dollar commitment price?
I'm assuming it is because of the added hassle to keep track of those who are committed, partially committed, and those that are pulling out after committing.
It could be a real hassle.
I'm assuming it is because of the added hassle to keep track of those who are committed, partially committed, and those that are pulling out after committing.
It could be a real hassle.
It's mainly for sufficient granularity for my order. This is an order to a factory. Saying "I want to place 1 order but have it in 6 variations all in equal quantity" is sensible. Sending them a laundry list of little arbitrarily-sized orders will cause them to treat it as a bunch of little orders, best addressed to a retailer rather than a factory.
2) How do larger orders effect the price/sticker? Can you provide a quotes for different ranges?
Re-reading the original post, it sounds like the minimum payment is $3000 dollars for 9600 sticker (Large ones).
That is about 32 cents a sticker.
You had made the following comment
I'm just curious where the break points are for even larger orders
3)If there is a repeat order, what are the quotes? Is it the same?
It seems there was a fee for the initial setup, if this is true, I'm curious on the minimum costs to make a repeat order.
Thanks again. I only ask because I'm seriously considering committing enough to make this happen.
However, I'm also interested in understanding what it would take to make it happen a second, and even third time.
Re-reading the original post, it sounds like the minimum payment is $3000 dollars for 9600 sticker (Large ones).
That is about 32 cents a sticker.
You had made the following comment
I'm just curious where the break points are for even larger orders
3)If there is a repeat order, what are the quotes? Is it the same?
It seems there was a fee for the initial setup, if this is true, I'm curious on the minimum costs to make a repeat order.
Thanks again. I only ask because I'm seriously considering committing enough to make this happen.
However, I'm also interested in understanding what it would take to make it happen a second, and even third time.
Please read the thread from the beginning. Let me point out the following
1. There is no offer anymore, it was retracted more than six months prior to your post asking these questions. The notion of whether I could continue to provide quotes relative to it anymore isn't sensible.
2. This is an offer to combine small orders into one larger order with a factory. I am not the factory. Think of me much like the person splitting the tab at a bar, putting the whole tab on my credit card while you pay me your share in cash. I'm still a patron just like you, I don't become the bartender. I'm splitting a bill given to me by someone else. Therefore I cannot issue quotes, give discounts, or make proposals for repeat orders.
3. There is no "quantity discount" - the purpose of my original offer was to provide access to holograms below the minimum quantity for a factory order. Consider the similarity to asking Costco if they have a quantity discount on 10 cans of Sprite from their soda machine while unaware of the fact that they sell 36 packs of Sprite inside the store. If you are interested in a large enough quantity to merit a discount, what I was offering wouldn't benefit you - consider contacting companies directly and placing your own order, which comes with the highly valuable flexibility of having your name directly embedded in the holography, rather than zapped on as an afterthought.
Thanks.
1)Why did you choose a $500 dollar commitment price?
I'm assuming it is because of the added hassle to keep track of those who are committed, partially committed, and those that are pulling out after committing.
It could be a real hassle.
I'm assuming it is because of the added hassle to keep track of those who are committed, partially committed, and those that are pulling out after committing.
It could be a real hassle.
It's mainly for sufficient granularity for my order. This is an order to a factory. Saying "I want to place 1 order but have it in 6 variations all in equal quantity" is sensible. Sending them a laundry list of little arbitrarily-sized orders will cause them to treat it as a bunch of little orders, best addressed to a retailer rather than a factory.
2) How do larger orders effect the price/sticker? Can you provide a quotes for different ranges?
Re-reading the original post, it sounds like the minimum payment is $3000 dollars for 9600 sticker (Large ones).
That is about 32 cents a sticker.
You had made the following comment
I'm just curious where the break points are for even larger orders
3)If there is a repeat order, what are the quotes? Is it the same?
It seems there was a fee for the initial setup, if this is true, I'm curious on the minimum costs to make a repeat order.
Thanks again. I only ask because I'm seriously considering committing enough to make this happen.
However, I'm also interested in understanding what it would take to make it happen a second, and even third time.
Re-reading the original post, it sounds like the minimum payment is $3000 dollars for 9600 sticker (Large ones).
That is about 32 cents a sticker.
You had made the following comment
I'm just curious where the break points are for even larger orders
3)If there is a repeat order, what are the quotes? Is it the same?
It seems there was a fee for the initial setup, if this is true, I'm curious on the minimum costs to make a repeat order.
Thanks again. I only ask because I'm seriously considering committing enough to make this happen.
However, I'm also interested in understanding what it would take to make it happen a second, and even third time.
Please read the thread from the beginning. Let me point out the following
1. There is no offer anymore, it was retracted more than six months prior to your post asking these questions. The notion of whether I could continue to provide quotes relative to it anymore isn't sensible.
2. This is an offer to combine small orders into one larger order with a factory. I am not the factory. Think of me much like the person splitting the tab at a bar, putting the whole tab on my credit card while you pay me your share in cash. I'm still a patron just like you, I don't become the bartender. I'm splitting a bill given to me by someone else. Therefore I cannot issue quotes, give discounts, or make proposals for repeat orders.
3. There is no "quantity discount" - the purpose of my original offer was to provide access to holograms below the minimum quantity for a factory order. Consider the similarity to asking Costco if they have a quantity discount on 10 cans of Sprite from their soda machine while unaware of the fact that they sell 36 packs of Sprite inside the store. If you are interested in a large enough quantity to merit a discount, what I was offering wouldn't benefit you - consider contacting companies directly and placing your own order, which comes with the highly valuable flexibility of having your name directly embedded in the holography, rather than zapped on as an afterthought.
They can already cut circles.
The laser can cut the material easily but the edge becomes rough. Just have them cut it.
Quite honestly, I use my laser machine on the stickers themselves as little as possible because it is time consuming. Only for marking the gold coin and the 2 factor bars. Look at how I have these items priced as a result.
(Of course, I also use it for cutting out private key circles, which is WAY easier than hole punching when it is thousands at a time, and also allows an exact fit)
The laser can cut the material easily but the edge becomes rough. Just have them cut it.
Quite honestly, I use my laser machine on the stickers themselves as little as possible because it is time consuming. Only for marking the gold coin and the 2 factor bars. Look at how I have these items priced as a result.
(Of course, I also use it for cutting out private key circles, which is WAY easier than hole punching when it is thousands at a time, and also allows an exact fit)
Got it. Laser idea is officially canned. Thanks for humoring my questions.
Next set a questions. I'll try to put them all in this post to avoid stringing them along.
1)Why did you choose a $500 dollar commitment price?
I'm assuming it is because of the added hassle to keep track of those who are committed, partially committed, and those that are pulling out after committing.
It could be a real hassle.
2) How do larger orders effect the price/sticker? Can you provide a quotes for different ranges?
Re-reading the original post, it sounds like the minimum payment is $3000 dollars for 9600 sticker (Large ones).
That is about 32 cents a sticker.
You had made the following comment
"Also, if I can get 8 shares worth of commitment ($4000), I can bump the order up a bit, and in the process, everybody can get 25% worth of yield added to their order at no extra cost (so, everyone expecting 2,500 holograms would get 3,125 instead). The response has been good - from the looks of it, this might actually happen!"
I'm just curious where the break points are for even larger orders
3)If there is a repeat order, what are the quotes? Is it the same?
It seems there was a fee for the initial setup, if this is true, I'm curious on the minimum costs to make a repeat order.
Thanks again. I only ask because I'm seriously considering committing enough to make this happen.
However, I'm also interested in understanding what it would take to make it happen a second, and even third time.
For example on Casascius Coins, the private key is on a piece of paper that faces into the coin. The hologram simply indicates that the paper hasn't been accessed.
You won't put private keys on the hologram, you would use them to cover a private key.
As it turns out, I actually do own a laser engraving machine. But I am not lasering the holograms, the factory is. I am pretty sure they laser the foil layer before it gets attached to the plastic layer of the sticker. The foil presumably requires a much higher temperature to vaporize that the plastic would never withstand. Where they mark at the factory, you see a complete absence of foil with no side effects to the plastic.
I have experimented with my machine... if I laser the stickers, I melt the plastic and create a sort of glittery effect as the plastic and the foil sort of melt together. There is no feasible way for me to have any effect on the foil without having a much greater effect on the plastic.
My laser equipment is particularly handy for cutting pages of private keys into little circles that precisely fit the hollowed out portion of the coin that holds them. But a good oversize hole punch would do the same thing (and worked for me before I got the laser machine). I suppose with a hole punch, you play a guessing game on getting a perfect fit, where with the laser, I can cut any size I want. (That is why, for example, I now put 30 characters in my coins instead of 22 - more precision means more usable printing room.)
You won't put private keys on the hologram, you would use them to cover a private key.
As it turns out, I actually do own a laser engraving machine. But I am not lasering the holograms, the factory is. I am pretty sure they laser the foil layer before it gets attached to the plastic layer of the sticker. The foil presumably requires a much higher temperature to vaporize that the plastic would never withstand. Where they mark at the factory, you see a complete absence of foil with no side effects to the plastic.
I have experimented with my machine... if I laser the stickers, I melt the plastic and create a sort of glittery effect as the plastic and the foil sort of melt together. There is no feasible way for me to have any effect on the foil without having a much greater effect on the plastic.
My laser equipment is particularly handy for cutting pages of private keys into little circles that precisely fit the hollowed out portion of the coin that holds them. But a good oversize hole punch would do the same thing (and worked for me before I got the laser machine). I suppose with a hole punch, you play a guessing game on getting a perfect fit, where with the laser, I can cut any size I want. (That is why, for example, I now put 30 characters in my coins instead of 22 - more precision means more usable printing room.)
You are correct that they laser the foil before adding other layers. I've actually spoken to a few companies about producing custom holograms for Bitcoin bills. They requested a similar figure for my own custom design. My original idea was to have the private key as a QR code on each hologram, but no one had the ability to do custom holograms for each one without paying an insane amount for the order due to each needing a custom foil created. The idea from them was suggested to have QR codes printed on each hologram though.
They can already cut circles.
The laser can cut the material easily but the edge becomes rough. Just have them cut it.
Quite honestly, I use my laser machine on the stickers themselves as little as possible because it is time consuming. Only for marking the gold coin and the 2 factor bars. Look at how I have these items priced as a result.
(Of course, I also use it for cutting out private key circles, which is WAY easier than hole punching when it is thousands at a time, and also allows an exact fit)
The laser can cut the material easily but the edge becomes rough. Just have them cut it.
Quite honestly, I use my laser machine on the stickers themselves as little as possible because it is time consuming. Only for marking the gold coin and the 2 factor bars. Look at how I have these items priced as a result.
(Of course, I also use it for cutting out private key circles, which is WAY easier than hole punching when it is thousands at a time, and also allows an exact fit)
Just do a google image search for "casascius" and look at the text on the 1000 BTC bar and the gold coin.
It actually looks really good. Just less secure because anyone could laser the surface, can't ablate the foil.
Lasering the back would be really cumbersome and difficult. And I expect the same results. Co2 infrared laser will not ablate metal foil without also melting the plastic.
It actually looks really good. Just less secure because anyone could laser the surface, can't ablate the foil.
Lasering the back would be really cumbersome and difficult. And I expect the same results. Co2 infrared laser will not ablate metal foil without also melting the plastic.
I Found pics with laser etching on the bar, but not on the holographic sticker itself. Maybe that is what you referring too.
Can both the plastic and metal foil be precisely cut? That way, when it is removed from the wax paper for application, the cut portion stays behind.
Just do a google image search for "casascius" and look at the text on the 1000 BTC bar and the gold coin.
It actually looks really good. Just less secure because anyone could laser the surface, can't ablate the foil.
Lasering the back would be really cumbersome and difficult. And I expect the same results. Co2 infrared laser will not ablate metal foil without also melting the plastic.
It actually looks really good. Just less secure because anyone could laser the surface, can't ablate the foil.
Lasering the back would be really cumbersome and difficult. And I expect the same results. Co2 infrared laser will not ablate metal foil without also melting the plastic.
Polylabel - Ontario, Canada
Well, they weren't very helpful. Looks like the only option is order a large batch of custom stickers and make subsets of them unique
by my self.
You had mentioned that you had a laser engraver and had attempted to etch text or something to that effect on the stickers.
How successful could this be in making a small batch of stickers unique?
Could it be done with a more expensive high quality laser?
They are able to do "serial numbering" from a file. This puts it in perspective. Instead of saying "can you customize my labels", ask for serial numbering, and tell them you'll be submitting a file that contains (for example) Text A repeated 2000 times, Text B repeated 2000 times, etc... This way, the expectations are clear: you aren't actually asking for any customization to the holographic shim itself.
I do have a laser engraver, and it can etch text. Theirs is better for security. When they "serial number" a label, the characters are a transparency in the holographic material, making it see-thru, something that can only be done during the manufacturing process.
When I laser-engrave a label, it makes tiny melts to the plastic, causing the holographic material to fuse with the plastic. Wherever my laser hits, it turns the hologram material into something resembling highly reflective gold paint after it's dried. It completely loses its holographic properties, while gaining a neat-looking brilliance all its own (but looks very different from their transparent serial numbering).
If you were looking to considering entry level equipment for lasering a label... just for reference sake, my laser is a 40 watt CO2 laser, though that's WAY more power than is necessary for this purpose, I turn the power way down if I use it for marking my labels. Anything more than about 10-15% power will completely slice right through the label, even at the maximum speed (higher speed = shorter exposure per pixel).
Ok, I read back through all the posts in this thread and found this comment
"As it turns out, I actually do own a laser engraving machine. But I am not lasering the holograms, the factory is. I am pretty sure they laser the foil layer before it gets attached to the plastic layer of the sticker. The foil presumably requires a much higher temperature to vaporize that the plastic would never withstand. Where they mark at the factory, you see a complete absence of foil with no side effects to the plastic."
I sent another email to the manufacture to see if there was any other method to make better post engravings with laser equipment. probably not, but we'll see.
Would you be willing to post a picture of what it looks like when you do it with your laser equipment?
Even though it isn't as nice I may still be interested.
How does it look if you etch from the bottom of the sticker? Willing to give it a try?
Sorry, I can be stubbornly persistent. I would really like anyone and everyone to have access to this.
Thanks,
Allten
Polylabel - Ontario, Canada
Well, they weren't very helpful. Looks like the only option is order a large batch of custom stickers and make subsets of them unique
by my self.
You had mentioned that you had a laser engraver and had attempted to etch text or something to that effect on the stickers.
How successful could this be in making a small batch of stickers unique?
Could it be done with a more expensive high quality laser?
They are able to do "serial numbering" from a file. This puts it in perspective. Instead of saying "can you customize my labels", ask for serial numbering, and tell them you'll be submitting a file that contains (for example) Text A repeated 2000 times, Text B repeated 2000 times, etc... This way, the expectations are clear: you aren't actually asking for any customization to the holographic shim itself.
I do have a laser engraver, and it can etch text. Theirs is better for security. When they "serial number" a label, the characters are a transparency in the holographic material, making it see-thru, something that can only be done during the manufacturing process.
When I laser-engrave a label, it makes tiny melts to the plastic, causing the holographic material to fuse with the plastic. Wherever my laser hits, it turns the hologram material into something resembling highly reflective gold paint after it's dried. It completely loses its holographic properties, while gaining a neat-looking brilliance all its own (but looks very different from their transparent serial numbering).
If you were looking to considering entry level equipment for lasering a label... just for reference sake, my laser is a 40 watt CO2 laser, though that's WAY more power than is necessary for this purpose, I turn the power way down if I use it for marking my labels. Anything more than about 10-15% power will completely slice right through the label, even at the maximum speed (higher speed = shorter exposure per pixel).
Polylabel - Ontario, Canada
Well, they weren't very helpful. Looks like the only option is order a large batch of custom stickers and make subsets of them unique
by my self.
You had mentioned that you had a laser engraver and had attempted to etch text or something to that effect on the stickers.
How successful could this be in making a small batch of stickers unique?
Could it be done with a more expensive high quality laser?
Polylabel - Ontario, Canada
My guess:
A couple hundred bucks would get you a generic design which is overprinted with your own name and sequential numbering. In other words, someone has already mass-produced the generic hologram and they are simply running it through a printing press to add a layer of ink on top. The only words in the holography are "genuine" "original" etc. Somebody is already selling this sort of thing on eBay right now, and is still far better than no customization.
A few thousand bucks would get you a custom design with your name and custom art in the holography itself. You would probably be able to get serial numbering that was an actual burn-through of the holographic material, the same thing that puts a window in my holograms.
A couple hundred bucks would get you a generic design which is overprinted with your own name and sequential numbering. In other words, someone has already mass-produced the generic hologram and they are simply running it through a printing press to add a layer of ink on top. The only words in the holography are "genuine" "original" etc. Somebody is already selling this sort of thing on eBay right now, and is still far better than no customization.
A few thousand bucks would get you a custom design with your name and custom art in the holography itself. You would probably be able to get serial numbering that was an actual burn-through of the holographic material, the same thing that puts a window in my holograms.
What is the best way to get started? You have been through this rodeo already.
What holographic company did you use? I would like to ask them some more questions.
Thanks in advance
My guess:
A couple hundred bucks would get you a generic design which is overprinted with your own name and sequential numbering. In other words, someone has already mass-produced the generic hologram and they are simply running it through a printing press to add a layer of ink on top. The only words in the holography are "genuine" "original" etc. Somebody is already selling this sort of thing on eBay right now, and is still far better than no customization.
A few thousand bucks would get you a custom design with your name and custom art in the holography itself. You would probably be able to get serial numbering that was an actual burn-through of the holographic material, the same thing that puts a window in my holograms.
A couple hundred bucks would get you a generic design which is overprinted with your own name and sequential numbering. In other words, someone has already mass-produced the generic hologram and they are simply running it through a printing press to add a layer of ink on top. The only words in the holography are "genuine" "original" etc. Somebody is already selling this sort of thing on eBay right now, and is still far better than no customization.
A few thousand bucks would get you a custom design with your name and custom art in the holography itself. You would probably be able to get serial numbering that was an actual burn-through of the holographic material, the same thing that puts a window in my holograms.
I think I'm going to back out.
I shouldn't of bought so many blank coins, i wanted to use them as a away to sell bitcoins on ebay and be protected with the fact the i could prove i shipped something. this turned out to be a bad idea.
I'll use my coins as a way to help people understand how bitcoins public / private keys work, their bitcoin will be safe without the hologram anyway.
of course i will continue to offer them with free shipping world wide for BTC or cash for local pick up in Montreal, see the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1btc-vires-in-numers-2012-physical-bitcoin-montreal-free-shipping-world-wide-126834
I will add pics of the back of the coin, to make it clear their is no hologram on the back, but simply a clear sticker.
Thanks
I shouldn't of bought so many blank coins, i wanted to use them as a away to sell bitcoins on ebay and be protected with the fact the i could prove i shipped something. this turned out to be a bad idea.
I'll use my coins as a way to help people understand how bitcoins public / private keys work, their bitcoin will be safe without the hologram anyway.
of course i will continue to offer them with free shipping world wide for BTC or cash for local pick up in Montreal, see the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1btc-vires-in-numers-2012-physical-bitcoin-montreal-free-shipping-world-wide-126834
I will add pics of the back of the coin, to make it clear their is no hologram on the back, but simply a clear sticker.
Thanks
It's actually a great idea, it's just best if it doesn't come with a confusion as to who has seen the private keys. A custom hologram of any kind means you've put some thought and effort into producing your coins and gives you credibility of any kind, which doesn't depend on using my name. The name "casascius" on a physical bitcoin means that nobody but me has seen the private key, a distinction that is lost if I say go ahead and make holograms with my name. If someone created "billybob" holograms, they'd serve exactly the same purpose... the name "casascius" is nothing more than a word I simply made up.
On the other hand, I deliberately left my name off the front side of the coin specifically so the coin design could be used by others to make their own coins.
I just used your name as an example. I'm considering funding a holographic sticker and putting my name on it.
I want people to look at it and say "Allten Made it, but he didn't put it to use".
Then I could create a publicly signed database where anyone could verify the true owner of a range of serial numbers on the holographic stickers.
How hard would serial numbers be to forge? I guess that could be the deal breaker for me.
Would there be any other solutions?
I can understand how this idea would cause problems with your name as you've already established yourself.
I think I'm going to back out.
I shouldn't of bought so many blank coins, i wanted to use them as a away to sell bitcoins on ebay and be protected with the fact the i could prove i shipped something. this turned out to be a bad idea.
I'll use my coins as a way to help people understand how bitcoins public / private keys work, their bitcoin will be safe without the hologram anyway.
of course i will continue to offer them with free shipping world wide for BTC or cash for local pick up in Montreal, see the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1btc-vires-in-numers-2012-physical-bitcoin-montreal-free-shipping-world-wide-126834
I will add pics of the back of the coin, to make it clear their is no hologram on the back, but simply a clear sticker.
Thanks
I shouldn't of bought so many blank coins, i wanted to use them as a away to sell bitcoins on ebay and be protected with the fact the i could prove i shipped something. this turned out to be a bad idea.
I'll use my coins as a way to help people understand how bitcoins public / private keys work, their bitcoin will be safe without the hologram anyway.
of course i will continue to offer them with free shipping world wide for BTC or cash for local pick up in Montreal, see the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1btc-vires-in-numers-2012-physical-bitcoin-montreal-free-shipping-world-wide-126834
I will add pics of the back of the coin, to make it clear their is no hologram on the back, but simply a clear sticker.
Thanks
It's actually a great idea, it's just best if it doesn't come with a confusion as to who has seen the private keys. A custom hologram of any kind means you've put some thought and effort into producing your coins and gives you credibility of any kind, which doesn't depend on using my name. The name "casascius" on a physical bitcoin means that nobody but me has seen the private key, a distinction that is lost if I say go ahead and make holograms with my name. If someone created "billybob" holograms, they'd serve exactly the same purpose... the name "casascius" is nothing more than a word I simply made up.
On the other hand, I deliberately left my name off the front side of the coin specifically so the coin design could be used by others to make their own coins.
I think I'm going to back out.
I shouldn't of bought so many blank coins, i wanted to use them as a way to sell bitcoins on ebay and be protected with the fact the i could prove i shipped something. this turned out to be a bad idea.
I'll use my coins as a way to help people understand how bitcoins public / private keys work, their bitcoin will be safe without the hologram anyway.
of course i will continue to offer them with free shipping world wide for BTC or cash for local pick up in Montreal, see the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1btc-vires-in-numers-2012-physical-bitcoin-montreal-free-shipping-world-wide-126834
I will add pics of the back of the coin, to make it clear their is no hologram on the back, but simply a clear sticker.
Thanks
I shouldn't of bought so many blank coins, i wanted to use them as a way to sell bitcoins on ebay and be protected with the fact the i could prove i shipped something. this turned out to be a bad idea.
I'll use my coins as a way to help people understand how bitcoins public / private keys work, their bitcoin will be safe without the hologram anyway.
of course i will continue to offer them with free shipping world wide for BTC or cash for local pick up in Montreal, see the thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1btc-vires-in-numers-2012-physical-bitcoin-montreal-free-shipping-world-wide-126834
I will add pics of the back of the coin, to make it clear their is no hologram on the back, but simply a clear sticker.
Thanks
but the coins themselves are casascius design, that's why i would like to get casascius on the hologram.
That's something I won't consent to.
That matters for the same reason I can't call up and order my own holograms that say "Official NFL Licensed Merchandise".
that's fine. the hologram will work just as good as long as its custom.
just wish i could get some kind of license to manufacture original casascius coins
but the coins themselves are casascius design, that's why i would like to get casascius on the hologram.
That's something I won't consent to.
That matters for the same reason I can't call up and order my own holograms that say "Official NFL Licensed Merchandise".
I do not think casascius likes the idea of other people having his exact same sticker. so that when someone sees his hologram they know it comes from him.
the art work would be changed slightly for each batch of stickers. ex. mine would might say "Canadian Casascius".
the art work would be changed slightly for each batch of stickers. ex. mine would might say "Canadian Casascius".
Someone creating their own physical bitcoin and using the name "Casascius " would probably be viewed as a counterfeiter or impersonator by the community. The name Casascius essentially means "Mike Caldwell", more so than "physical bitcoin". That also doesn't take into consideration how I'd respond to it, but I'm not going to bother going there because I don't think anyone seriously plans to attempt a "legit" physical bitcoin product using my name. It's been hard enough convincing others to start one using their own name. I also happen to have been born in Alberta, so the real Casascius is already "Canadian"...
but the coins themselves are casascius design, that's why i would like to get casascius on the hologram.
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