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June 06, 2021, 01:24:04 AM
#88
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?

For that bitcoin needs to be regulated by the countries. If crypto is illegal in some countries or there is no certainty on the legalization of bitcoin in some part of the world, people won't pay any taxes on it. Governments need to think and devise a mechanism on how can they tax on bitcoin and other crypto holdings.
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June 06, 2021, 12:28:30 AM
#87
Yes but only in countries which didn't ban bitcoin. In my country government didn't recognize bitcoin as currency. So government didn't give any protection to their citizens who own cryptocurrency if they loss their cryptocurrencies, for example if they being scammed on fake website. In my country the citizens forced to use national currency, but for me it is okay as the citizens of my country has strong nationalism. And my country also only print money regarding the amount of gold, there is only one case which the president decided to print regardless the amount of gold and that was very controversial. But for now everything is okay.
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June 05, 2021, 11:57:28 PM
#86
Some countries may receive taxes with bitcoin, but some also do not, however unstable bitcoin is, How can we calculate the tax, some countries that have bitcoin tax also start to stop it it looks like they are actually banning the circulation of bitcoin.
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June 05, 2021, 08:19:29 PM
#85
In my opinion bitcoin should be taxed like gold. We need to ensure that bitcoin is not used for illegal transactions and need to put in place investor protection. Therefore, it is very important to regulate organizations that deal in bitcoin and hold them to compliance with the related legal responsibilities. We will avoid a lot of risks from this virtual currency.
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June 05, 2021, 04:46:32 PM
#84
Well, the government can not impose tax directly on the bitcoin but when you sell your bitcoin or something you spend it, that the time that paying tax should be implemented and mandatory. But I think not all countries are strictly about the tax because here in my country, there is a minimum amount that you gain per annum before considering that you will pay a tax but if you do not exceed that amount, you are not liable to pay tax. I don't know the law of tax in other countries like the US. I have heard that you are mandatory to declare your gains either it is a small or big amount. So, all of these are depending on which country you live.
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June 05, 2021, 02:55:32 PM
#83
I agree that this is money, but not really at the expense of taxes. First, let the government legalize Bitcoin and other alternative cryptocurrencies unconditionally. Will create clear, transparent rules of the game and then people will be willing to pay taxes and sleep peacefully. In the meantime, this is just another attempt to rip off money from people in the absence of a legislative framework against this background.
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June 05, 2021, 02:38:45 PM
#82
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?
I can really be taxed but in forms of capital gains or when those coins had converted out to fiat and this is already happening at the moment on some country and once you are earning some money no matter what form then you are obliged to pay up a certain tax but i do highly believe that only a few
do still have this kind of set-up no where its been asked to pay up taxes but majority its just easy to avoid if they wanted too. Crypto earnings is really
hard to be traced nor to be determined so thats why its a bit no point on asking it out and this is why government do really hate up bitcoin.
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June 05, 2021, 02:27:40 PM
#81
Bitcoin is already taxed. In IRS, they were able to build this type of tax system where Bitcoin holders will have to pay from their capital gains.
But technically, Bitcoin wasn't originally taxed but still every time you go and cash-out specially with big amount of it, you will be taxed as same as cash.

But you don't have to worry, you'll only get taxed with what you earned (if your capital is big). When your capital is somehow on the lower scale, then I guess you don't need to worry about it yet. There are exemptions with it and you might be included in non-taxable ones.
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June 05, 2021, 02:10:07 PM
#80
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?

You could probably get out with it if your not really earning a very big amount of money in trading or any cryptocurrency, as far as i know. But it was probably only in US or some other countries.

We could expect cryptocurrency or trading or bitcoin to be taxed but its not really a case for some countries since in my countries the government are probably already have a few plans about it, most of the time as long as there are big money involved government is gonna put tax on it.

Probably exchanges are already paying the taxes to continue their business, so i guess that's one way already. For now I can still trade freely in my country but if bitcoin or cryptocurrency continue to mass adapt taxes are surely gonna happen soon, but for me as long as its only a small percentage its gonna be fine at some point.
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June 05, 2021, 01:09:17 PM
#79
Is this even possible? i think the whole concept of decentralization is to avoid some of the financial practices that is currently unfair to the masses by giving them an open source currency that has no third party interaction and is completely anonymous.
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June 05, 2021, 10:54:25 AM
#78
Taxing currency is an absurd thing because I've only heard about taxing goods before.
If the tax on $1, what would be the value of $1? This is illogical so it shouldn't happen. We have a burn-in every transaction for every altcoin. Bitcoin doesn't have that mechanism, just the transaction cost and usually, it's very small. So I think that taxing cryptocurrencies can happen when they profit from trading. Taxing Bitcoin is the act of treating Bitcoin as a commodity, not a currency.
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June 05, 2021, 10:43:33 AM
#77
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?

This is happening already, most countries that have accepted bitcoin are already taxing it, it's not new, a tax is a responsibility, it's the lifeblood of a county therefore we have to pay, if we evade tax, make sure we do it well so we will not face a problem in the future.

Bitcoin is regulated, therefore it should be tax, that's my view.
- Taxes may be our responsibility but after we solve the tax problem, the government will take responsibility of someone who received money from us or they will try to delay the timing of many problems, usually here there are a lot of risks like being hacked and stolen and a lot of cases of scams, I still don't see the effect of government service, asking for tax would be relatively unreasonable. Fully catering to the participants will never have a story of possible tax evasion but unfortunately, the government has never done its duty to protect us.

I can agree with you Conected! But I must add one thing, a lot depends on the country where you live!

Saintough, we can say that Bitcoin is regulated, we know how coins are being created and distributed, and we know how to transact them... and some countries regulated it in their own way, and if you are cashing them out through the bank, depending on the country where you live, you will probably have to pay some taxes! While in some countries it's harder to cash out, maybe you pay more fees before you get to the cash, but nobody is taxing you!

It will be an interesting future... some governments and countries are speaking about higher taxes for crypto! This new bullish period made another bach of milionares and billionaires... and it wasn't hard to imagine governments trying to take a piece of cake for them!
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June 05, 2021, 10:29:38 AM
#76
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?

This is happening already, most countries that have accepted bitcoin are already taxing it, it's not new, a tax is a responsibility, it's the lifeblood of a county therefore we have to pay, if we evade tax, make sure we do it well so we will not face a problem in the future.

Bitcoin is regulated, therefore it should be tax, that's my view.
- Taxes may be our responsibility but after we solve the tax problem, the government will take responsibility of someone who received money from us or they will try to delay the timing of many problems, usually here there are a lot of risks like being hacked and stolen and a lot of cases of scams, I still don't see the effect of government service, asking for tax would be relatively unreasonable. Fully catering to the participants will never have a story of possible tax evasion but unfortunately, the government has never done its duty to protect us.
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June 05, 2021, 10:06:21 AM
#75
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?
actually a lot of news i saw around the internet and they want to put bitcoin taxed like literally because of the potential of it to all enthusiast. But until now i cant see any changes and news about such things wherein perhaps its not possible to happen on this kind of decentralised money.. I dont know in the future but for me its impossible..
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June 05, 2021, 09:43:50 AM
#74
We already pay a lot of fees for making our transactions these days.

Fees are not taxes, it is the commission. When you buy something at the store and pay with the card, store owner pays commission to the bank for money transaction.

If government wants to collect taxes from investment, how they gonna find out what was the price of Bitcoin, when a person has bought it? How they gonna find out that I have bought Bitcoin at the price of $20k, but not at $60k, compare it with current price and tell if I have profit and owe them, or I'm in a loss?

I know that fees are commissions. I mean that there is no meaning to impose a tax which has a very high rate. I'm totally against governments' collecting it as income tax. The rate should be 1 or 2 percent the most, in my opinion.
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June 05, 2021, 09:07:22 AM
#73
If this is to be taxed then be it , People will only follow what's the government will allow and this is including taxation though they will face big problem on how to implement this.
for how many years that this has been into process yet cannot be implemented but with all respect? i will pay tax when our government asked me to.
Well, people can't really do much about it, they live in that country and they have to at the least conform to the norms and do their due diligence, honestly I am split into two with this one because taxation is a good way to improve public infrastructure if the government knows how to spend their money but if not then I wouldn't pay my taxes because they will only be pocketed by the corrupt officials.
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June 05, 2021, 09:01:26 AM
#72
actually its not BTC that being taxed in the USA... Its the dollar   You dont pay any taxes on crypto currencies until you sell them for USD.  and then its only "IF" you made a capital gain.  So you are paying taxes on your USD capital gain on ALL cryptocurrencies just like stocks.
If your trading amount is higher you will be bound to pay your taxes unless you are able to provide all the evidence of your loss and then you can get away with the capital gain tax. If you are a small time trader then you can get away with it but usually everyone who is in the market for a long time made a lot of money and you are bound to file them if you are not looking for trouble at a later time.
^ Higher or a small amount it should be taxed if you are in the US. Either it is sold or spent, it should be declared any profit each year because that is taxable and you are entitled to be liable to interest and penalties. But there are countries that did not too strict on the tax, if you feel that BTC in your place did not require tax and only a small amount, it is up to you. I think the only UK and the US are very strict on this tax implementation, other countries probably will not and it is okay if you don't declare your gains in crypto.
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June 05, 2021, 08:35:23 AM
#71
actually its not BTC that being taxed in the USA... Its the dollar   You dont pay any taxes on crypto currencies until you sell them for USD.  and then its only "IF" you made a capital gain.  So you are paying taxes on your USD capital gain on ALL cryptocurrencies just like stocks.
If your trading amount is higher you will be bound to pay your taxes unless you are able to provide all the evidence of your loss and then you can get away with the capital gain tax. If you are a small time trader then you can get away with it but usually everyone who is in the market for a long time made a lot of money and you are bound to file them if you are not looking for trouble at a later time.
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June 05, 2021, 08:30:05 AM
#70
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?

This is happening already, most countries that have accepted bitcoin are already taxing it, it's not new, a tax is a responsibility, it's the lifeblood of a county therefore we have to pay, if we evade tax, make sure we do it well so we will not face a problem in the future.

Bitcoin is regulated, therefore it should be tax, that's my view.
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June 05, 2021, 08:16:03 AM
#69
In Ron Paul's view, bitcoin is money, and it should be taxed as such. How do you view this information?

If we all want Bitcoin to be accepted in the world and be money, then it must be regulated and comply with international financial laws. Based on this, Bitcoin should also be taxed. I also do not mind this, since it will allow Botcoin and the entire crypto industry to be accepted all over the world, and as a result, it is cryptocurrencies that will be able to replace the existing financial system with a new, more practical one.
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