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October 29, 2014, 06:32:12 PM
#48
I don't think bitcoin is dying out. Adoption is growing and you can spend bitcoins a lot more places now. I think one of the issues is merchants dumping their bitcoin for fiat. Increasing number of merchants equals more selling off of bitcoins as people spend them.
I don't understand this.  Anyone who is using spending btc with merchants surely would be buying an equal amount on the backend to replace what is spent, to help stabilize the price?  Why would any bitcoin enthusiast reduce one's holding of bitcoin now when prices have moved so much lower for so long?

I tend to think alot of people who got into it for a quick buck are giving up hope and are tired of waiting.

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October 29, 2014, 06:05:33 PM
#47
Bitcoin will continue having some utility for certain cultists, bulltards and cryptogeeks -- for at least a couple of years more. They'll trade it among themselves for single digit prices, while the Average Joe -- being smarter than the cultists -- stays away from the digital Beanie Babies.

The age of triple digits will be a bygone era by the time 2015 hits us, and in that year Bitcoin will also crash to somewhere closer to its "true price", which is in the single digits.

This is what the Post-Gox Bitcoin world looks like.
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October 29, 2014, 05:54:32 PM
#46
why is keep on dropping? man seriously i lost $40 already.. I can only imagine people holding on more.
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October 29, 2014, 05:13:32 PM
#45
Thin market, microscopic volume, very few big bulls, tons of small and tiny ones = perfect for short selling.
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October 29, 2014, 04:56:02 PM
#44
There isn't this merchant downward pressure at all. The bearwhales told this ideia and then everyone started saying this shit.

I suspect that the biggest bearwhales are the perps of the major scams here who are still free as birds. If you add up the major btc scams it's probably >1 million btc
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October 29, 2014, 03:14:35 PM
#43
I don't think bitcoin is dying out. Adoption is growing and you can spend bitcoins a lot more places now. I think one of the issues is merchants dumping their bitcoin for fiat. Increasing number of merchants equals more selling off of bitcoins as people spend them.

The thing here is that BitPay or other processor don't sell their coins to an exchange, they either buy OTC from large holders or miners if they need to.

There isn't this merchant downward pressure at all. The bearwhales told this ideia and then everyone started saying this shit.
legendary
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October 29, 2014, 02:35:29 PM
#42
Guys, seriously, are you fucking out of your minds?

"If it goes wrong I'll go live under a bridge, but it it goes right imma be rich!"   HuhHuh

Some of you are just asking for trouble, this is not a fucking game.


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Todamoon or bust

(even because it would rise again from the minute after I sodl)
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October 29, 2014, 12:54:45 PM
#41
I don't think bitcoin is dying out. Adoption is growing and you can spend bitcoins a lot more places now. I think one of the issues is merchants dumping their bitcoin for fiat. Increasing number of merchants equals more selling off of bitcoins as people spend them.

Adoption rate is slowing down. There was an explosion of new users in 2013. The same cannot be said for 2014. Even people who were in BTC before are leaving now, which is indicative of a stagnant market. Merchants don't factor into the equation, with the exception of darknets and illegal marketplaces.
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October 29, 2014, 11:41:38 AM
#40
I don't think bitcoin is dying out. Adoption is growing and you can spend bitcoins a lot more places now. I think one of the issues is merchants dumping their bitcoin for fiat. Increasing number of merchants equals more selling off of bitcoins as people spend them.
legendary
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October 29, 2014, 11:39:45 AM
#39
And despite the severity of this bear market, we're *still* well within the "norm" of bitcoin boom-fallout percentages.

Let's phrase it this way: If the price had just gone in a straight line from where it was 1yr ago to where it is today, would you be feeling the same way?

Or would you perhaps be talking about how much infrastructure development, VC funding, financial sector interest, and big-name acceptance has happened in the past year, and how impressive that really is for this 5yr old technology?
legendary
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October 29, 2014, 11:32:03 AM
#38
Also Stupid trolls like falllling and co. have been right all along while smart people have been wrong. Something is off.

Calm yourself podyx.

What is more likely, that this is a technical bear market following a 100x bull run being gamed by big players who are building large positions for the impending rise into the mainstream that half a billion dollars of VC funding, impending US regulation and an ETF about to be approved will bring. Or that in a sea of increasing adoption, rapidly growing infrastructure globally, growing merchant adoption, rising transactions and volumes bitcoin is suddenly dying and every single person on bitcointalk other than trolls, newbies who dont know better and technical bearish traders failed to get the memo.

The trolls are just sockpuppet accounts for traders who are short trying to exaggerate downward momentum by manipulating emotions and encouraging selling. A few posters state that influencing sentiment on this forum has no effect upon the price. I would say that manipulating the price and also manipulating sentiment on this forum in a coordinated fashion will exaggerate price movements. If there are only 300,000 to 1 million users with double digit holdings of bitcoin and only 50,000 btc on the exchanges setting the price then convincing a few hundred people with weak hands to sell could make quite a difference to the orderbooks. This is the most viewed and visited bitcoin forum on the internet I believe.

If you are getting emotional either partially or completely sell at a loss to reduce your anxiety, turn off the computer for three months or view this as a buying opportunity and purchase a greater % of the bitcoin network when you feel the price is bottoming.

The reason the quote about buying when blood is in the streets is true, is that human emotion at price extremes like this (and it may get more extreme) makes a normal person want to sell and run, also known as the fight or flight emotional response, when if they thought rationally they should be heavily accumulating. It is that irrational feeling that the price could literally fall to zero you must control. It is no surprise that the trolls are loudly calling for double digit bitcoins and the price falling to $1.

An interesting metric posted in the last few days is the top 100 bitcoin addresses and their balances. These real superwhales are not selling or reducing their coins, they are increasing them on this price weakness. Also bitcoin days destroyed have not spiked suggesting long term early adopter holdings are not being moved to exchanges or moved.

Few bitcoin bulls or holders would have predicted the severity of this bear market but what the features and potential of bitcoin that made it attractive at 400 - 1166 have not changed.

COI: Bitcoin long term holder.






well said inca.

can you update the graph of the top balances?
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October 29, 2014, 10:49:39 AM
#37
If I take loans and invest 'em and this goes right, then geez... I would make alot of fuckin money (Prices are so ridicolously cheap right now)
This is the thought pattern of a pathological gambler. Stop right there sir, I'm serious.


This,
If you want some more money to invest in btc go suck some cock or sell some weed on silk road.
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October 29, 2014, 10:33:44 AM
#36
Close your eyes and picture yourself in financial ruin

Yup, visualizing your goals is what what you should do every morning.  Roll Eyes
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October 29, 2014, 09:27:16 AM
#35
I read and study the uses of bitcoin and the adaptation and everyday it is being incorporated by businesses and used by more people.

It is still going down and will quite possibly fall back to pennies because in reality it costs money to make and like the US Dollar has no intrinsic value.

When it starts costing more to create it than you can sell it for it is over I wonder how much in electrical costs one bit coin is.


I think break even is around $200 per coin.  Not sure, I quit mining like most months ago.

My prediction.  Bitcoin price will oscillate near break even for mining.  It will shake more and more out until we are left with just 1 or 2 chip/rig makers.  I would guess break even for mining might get to around $100 per coin.

Not the peer-to-peer network needed to make bitcoin viable. 
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October 29, 2014, 08:40:24 AM
#34
The same idiots that have constantly been complaining about the declining BTC price have also constantly been lending coin to shortsellers. Obviously. It has been a ballooning business all year.
sr. member
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October 29, 2014, 08:33:13 AM
#33
"Price crashes. Hash rate plummets. Startups fail. Companies stop accepting btc. Mass panic. Suicides."

Why can't I stop laughing!?! Grin


legendary
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October 29, 2014, 08:31:12 AM
#32
Don't worry.  Bitcoin is not dying out.  It's just massively overbought by people salivating at the mouth at $10k, $100k, and $1M bitcoins.
legendary
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October 29, 2014, 07:45:02 AM
#31
"Price crashes. Hash rate plummets. Startups fail. Companies stop accepting btc. Mass panic. Suicides."

Why can't I stop laughing!?! Grin

Or... the price rise, champagne fall from the heavens, doors would open and velvet ropes would part.
legendary
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October 29, 2014, 07:43:38 AM
#30
How the market has gone the last 10 months is pretty much the same of how I would expect the market to go if bitcoin were to die out. But I still cannot see how it would just die. There's just so much potential

I guess it's clutch decision soon...
sr. member
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October 09, 2014, 11:01:52 AM
#29
 "Price crashes. Hash rate plummets. Startups fail. Companies stop accepting btc. Mass panic. Suicides."

Why can't I stop laughing!?! Grin
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