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Quote from: talkbitcoin on January 22, 2019, 05:41:39 AM

you should stop looking for and waiting for some sort of magical event that can "stimulate" the price to go up. any such kind of even is going to be purely hype (things such as ETF, regulations, Bakkt, halving...) and their effects will only be temporary.

the only thing that truly matters is bitcoin's utility and the adoption of it because of them. and they are things such as lightning network and other scaling proposals in the future like signature aggregation that will continue to make bitcoin better and more useful.
these are real things that truly affect the price.

Some people argue that mainstream and institutional investors are waiting for more regulatory clarity and regulated investment instruments before putting their money into the market. I'm skeptical about that, but there's definitely some logic to it. Traditional investors are a lot more risk averse than early Bitcoin adopters.

If true, it means that cryptocurrency-friendly regulations or the approval of something like Bakkt could fundamentally increase market demand. That would obviously affect the price.

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Quote from: Stilicho on January 22, 2019, 04:17:17 AM

Hello guys,

those who are more informed in this crypto world, can you write here some Bitcoin stimulus, which we can wait in 2019, to help the price recover?

Finally, first I thought that this fall of BTC price started in middle november 2018 was just a whales manipulation, to get better buing price for the next year, but now it seems that the price is really down as it does not have power to do any up movement. And without stimulus it will probably not move.

thanks
S.

The situation only looks as if it has stabilized. We can not really be sure if the price drops are over. That's why investors have not started buying again. I think that we have to wait a month or two for price increases.

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Quote from: Stilicho on January 22, 2019, 04:17:17 AM

..............And without stimulus it will probably not move.

I also disagree with this line and the general thinking of the OP. We
have seen on occasions the markets move for no known reason. I have
seen many supposedly stimuli events in 2017 which resulted in the
markets moving in the opposite direction to the desired one.

If there is a stimulus it may not affect the market immediately. For
traders there is a saying which can be applied to any sort of event
or stimulus, "buy the hype, sell the news"

I cannot see any one "realistic" thing which would affect the crypto
space which would stimulate the markets into a massive rise, it will
be a number of events over a space of time which will result in the
desired affect.

Example of unrealistic events:

The return of Satoshi
Global acceptance of Bitcoin as legal tender
The U.S and China to ditch the Dollar and Yuan in favour of Bitcoin
Bitcoin price falls to $10

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Quote from: kissme09 on January 22, 2019, 10:08:39 AM

How can you develop Bitcoin's platform when you can't use its source code?

What do you mean here? Bitcoin Core is open source and available on GitHub.

Quote from: kissme09 on January 22, 2019, 10:08:39 AM

I realize that we should prioritize Bitcoin being widely accepted in the world because this has a significant impact on Bitcoin.

And the only way for bitcoin to be widely accepted worldwide.. is to develop bitcoin for it to be more user-friendly or to be better in general for the masses. So, yea.

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Quote from: Stilicho on January 22, 2019, 04:17:17 AM

And without stimulus it will probably not move.

i disagree. of course i am assuming that by "stimulus" you mean something that kicks starts the rise. in which case we don't really need something like that to start the rise. it can simply begin after hitting the bottom and as everyone gets tired of waiting for a lower price. just like all the previous times that price was stuck in a low bottom. for example the 2014 bottom at $220.

although it is possible to see some sort of hype initialize the rise like the ignition under the rocket, it rarely starts like that. those "stimuluses" have mostly happened after the rise had begun.

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For now, I can only keep quiet and survive with the price of bitcoin declining at a price of $ 3500. what can I do? Except for silence and wait for the price to rise again above $ 6000. Even before that I didn't think about the game of whales to get cheaper bitcoin prices. Confusing Huh

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Quote from: mk4 on January 22, 2019, 04:27:36 AM

Some notable stuff to wait for in 2019 concerning bitcoin:

Lightning Network adoption
Privacy features
Regulations(debatable if positive or not)
More adoption in general
More development in general

Will these be enough to push up the price? Maybe, maybe not; and just as always, no one knows when the prices will go up.

At the mean time, let's not always focus on price.

How can you develop Bitcoin's platform when you can't use its source code? I realize that we should prioritize Bitcoin being widely accepted in the world because this has a significant impact on Bitcoin. Also, we need to help Bitcoin achieve some support from the SEC ETF fund that will help it get closer to the investors.

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Quote from: tytanhamon04 on January 22, 2019, 09:27:14 AM

I think the main factor will be Lightning, ETF and Bukkit. It will all go gradually, for example without Bukkit, the SEC will not make a positive decision in favor of ETF. Also, if you think logically, the price should rise after a long correction and the rate should recover.

Lightning Network is really something positive in cryptoworld, but it will take a lot of time to enter into an extensive use. People who use BTC still have problems with basic wallets and transaction, LN is just too complicated in this moment. Cheap and fast transaction are something that should be a trademark of BTC, and we have that with help of SegWit - LN is next step in right direction.

Forget ETF for now, SEC is rejects all applications, and I doubt something like this can happen this year, probably in next 3-5 years. It is not Bukkit, but Bakkt -and they are stuck in their progress and have delays. Current situation in USA is just slow down Bakkt, and Commodities Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) is different from SEC - in other words there is no deadline, and the procedure may last almost indefinitely.

Price can not recover just like that, people buy only when they see opportunity for earnings, and the biggest problem is that most of them just watch short-term profits. Buying in this bear market is best decision you can make, but only if you can wait few years for new ATH.

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I think the main factor will be Lightning, ETF and Bukkit. It will all go gradually, for example without Bukkit, the SEC will not make a positive decision in favor of ETF. Also, if you think logically, the price should rise after a long correction and the rate should recover.

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Quote from: Xardasim on January 22, 2019, 07:04:53 AM

It depends on situation and there is not certain whether the stimulus can influence the price. For example, imagine about the current situation, in this case the influence of simple news to the price continious 1-2 hours and then it will return to the old price. There is no system like FED to regulate the price, so psychology is more important.

what you are saying is true but only to some extent. and it also depends on the news. so far we had nothing of any significance to be able to affect the price that much.
the good news are either swept under the rug or are childish news spread by the news sites for click bait so you can't really expect a rise because of them!
the only big bad news that we had (actually not that big) was the 2 exchange hacks. Cryptopia and the other one was a Japanese one IIRC. and neither one could cause a drop because market may not be ready for a rise but it is not willing to go any lower either.

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It depends on situation and there is not certain whether the stimulus can influence the price. For example, imagine about the current situation, in this case the influence of simple news to the price continious 1-2 hours and then it will return to the old price. There is no system like FED to regulate the price, so psychology is more important.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 22, 2019, 04:27:36 AM

Some notable stuff to wait for in 2019 concerning bitcoin:

Lightning Network adoption
Privacy features
Regulations(debatable if positive or not)
More adoption in general
More development in general

Will these be enough to push up the price? Maybe, maybe not; and just as always, no one knows when the prices will go up.

At the mean time, let's not always focus on price.

We may also expect platform like Bakkt and regulation like ETF. Actually, everything possible in this crypto world. It may take some times but it'll recover.

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All I know is that I know nothing.

you should stop looking for and waiting for some sort of magical event that can "stimulate" the price to go up. any such kind of even is going to be purely hype (things such as ETF, regulations, Bakkt, halving...) and their effects will only be temporary.

the only thing that truly matters is bitcoin's utility and the adoption of it because of them. and they are things such as lightning network and other scaling proposals in the future like signature aggregation that will continue to make bitcoin better and more useful.
these are real things that truly affect the price.

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price doesn't have to reverse back up immediately for the dump in the final month of 2018 to not be a manipulation! you logic is flawed, that's all. otherwise it was a manipulation that crashed the price below $6k which proved about 10-12 times to be an extremely resilient bottom. in fact if there were no BSV fork drama the price would have never gone below $6k in first place. the evidence is the 9 months of constant whale attempts to break it and every time without exception facing a strong resistance from buyers.

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Some notable stuff to wait for in 2019 concerning bitcoin:

Lightning Network adoption
Privacy features
Regulations(debatable if positive or not)
More adoption in general
More development in general

Will these be enough to push up the price? Maybe, maybe not; and just as always, no one knows when the prices will go up.

At the mean time, let's not always focus on price.

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Hello guys,

those who are more informed in this crypto world, can you write here some Bitcoin stimulus, which we can wait in 2019, to help the price recover?

Finally, first I thought that this fall of BTC price started in middle november 2018 was just a whales manipulation, to get better buing price for the next year, but now it seems that the price is really down as it does not have power to do any up movement. And without stimulus it will probably not move.

thanks
S.

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